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mcjules wrote:trident wrote:rîcecrackers wrote:mcjules wrote:ricecrackrs wrote:rîcecrackers wrote:ricecrackrs wrote:rîcecrackers wrote:ricecrackrs wrote:lol at your delusion stop pretending to be me who is this clown? give it up. you cant even get the mk correct. my ricecrackers persona is dead and i intend to keep it that way. dad? Well I don't know if this is the real ricey but if it is, do we need any more evidence that he's a sad teenage boy? he's not me. You only have 3 posts and registered today. You're not fooling anyone. The fact that you: 1. are getting involved in this 2. seem to have picked a horse in this race (don't bother arguing this point even if you claim you haven't point 1 is enough) is very telling. Off you go kiddo, write your insincere posts to someone that likes to post shit too. Edited by mcjules: 20/12/2015 09:24:10 PM You're only implicating yourself further.
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njdevil wrote:so a thought to ponder while the same brilliant minds ( who gave us YK2 the world will stop and go back to zero and put everyone into panic ) has they ever considered that surface of the earth is cooling down when you take into account that the earth was a molten ball when born it has continued to cool and eventually the core will solidify cause as we know we dont have perpetual energy so it will cool . ah then what maybe then our future generation may have something to worry about . but i suppose when they make first contact we will get the answers :-"
Putting aside the gross misunderstanding of what it actually was, Y2K (like climate change) really was a thing to be concerned about. It was appropriately taken seriously and things were fixed well ahead of time. Interestingly, there will be another one of these issues coming up in January of 2038. I hope to be out of the industry by then but there is going to be some sweet consulting dollars on offer leading up to that date =p~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problemEdited by mcjules: 20/12/2015 10:45:01 PM
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on my grandmother's grave I swear I'm not and never was poptech it demonstrates a level of cognitive dissonance on your part that I could have such intimate knowledge of this country but somehow live in the US and have time on my hands to write an extensive blog perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with mr occam's razor and get out of your townsville basement once in a while
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it is deluded to take anything that is presented as scientific "fact" seriously when the default position of science on anything and everything is "we just don't know"
the henny-penny approach of interpreting data-modelling is attune to doomsday cultists
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the_real_ricecrackers wrote:on my grandmother's grave I swear I'm not and never was poptech it demonstrates a level of cognitive dissonance on your part that I could have such intimate knowledge of this country but somehow live in the US and have time on my hands to write an extensive blog perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with mr occam's razor and get out of your townsville basement once in a while No basements in Townsville :lol: 1/10 :lol: -PB
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njdevil wrote:so a thought to ponder while the same brilliant minds ( who gave us YK2 the world will stop and go back to zero and put everyone into panic ) has they ever considered that surface of the earth is cooling down when you take into account that the earth was a molten ball when born it has continued to cool and eventually the core will solidify cause as we know we dont have perpetual energy so it will cool . ah then what maybe then our future generation may have something to worry about . but i suppose when they make first contact we will get the answers :-"
The Sun will have depleted all of its hydrogen needed for nuclear fusion well before the Earth's core will ever get a chance to solidify. Radioactive decay of certain isotopes with roughly billion year half-lives keep the outer core from solidifying. The Earth's core temperature is currently ~5500C and it's only reduced by about 300-400C since the Earth was formed. That's a rate of cooling in the outer core of 100 degrees per billion years (that's just 0.0001C every 1000 years). On the other hand, the Sun will run out of hydrogen as fuel, swell and engulf the inner planets before shrinking to a dwarf star in ~4.5 billion years from now.
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GDeathe wrote:it is deluded to take anything that is presented as scientific "fact" seriously when the default position of science on anything and everything is "we just don't know"
the henny-penny approach of interpreting data-modelling is attune to doomsday cultists
The word 'fact' is used for the purpose of communicating with Joe public. Yes it is true, there are no such things as facts in science. Just because you jump off a building and turn into a pavement painting doesn't mean gravity is a fact, in the true scientific sense. But for the purpose of Joe public communication, gravity is a fact. Only maths deals in proofs (facts), science deals in probability, however strong. For the purpose of Joe public, is anthropogenic global warming a fact? You betcha! As for data modelling, many of the physical sciences use modelling. From physics, to chemistry, to meteorology. Nothing new.
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trident wrote:South Australia is now experiencing the devastating reality of climate change. Stay safe folks. Quote:[size=8]Climate change at work' as Adelaide swelters through another hot night[/size] Updated Thu at 2:30pm Generic heat wave pic of hazy beach scene at Adelaide's Glenelg beach in January 2009. PHOTO: The beach is a sanctuary for some as Adelaide faces an unseasonable heatwave. (AAP: Rob Hutchison) RELATED STORY: Mercury hits 41C in Adelaide, with no relief until weekend [size=8]Adelaide's ongoing severe heatwave is a first for this time of year and the "sort of signal you will see with climate change", a Bureau of Meteorology head says.[/size] South Australia acting regional director John Nairn said Adelaide had never experienced a sequence of four 40 degree Celsius days during December. The city sweltered through another hot night last night, with the mercury dropping to only 25C by about 6:30am. Temperatures peaked in the city at 41C on Wednesday, with maximums forecast to be above 40C for the next three days. Today's maximum is forecast at 42C with minimum temperatures predicted to fall to 26C overnight. "It is an unusual event," Mr Nairn said. "These are the sorts of signals you will see with climate change where we see the very high temperatures spread out from where they normally used to be. Adelaide forecast: Thursday - Very hot and sunny, 42C Friday - Very hot and mostly sunny, 41C Saturday - Very hot, possible late shower, 42C "Unfortunately, this is one of the signs." Three districts are in total fire ban today; the Mount Lofty Ranges, Lower South-East and North-West Pastoral. Mount Lofty Botanic Gardens will be closed to the public due to the severe fire danger rating. The SA Ambulance Service said it would put on extra resources over the weekend to help paramedics cope with the demand created by heat-related illnesses. Paramedic Graeme Rayson said that while there had not been many extra calls so far, Friday was likely to result in more calls for help as the heatwave continued. "Day three, we expect that things will start to heat up, as far as our workload," he said. "We've got our pushbikes out and about on the weekend ... no doubt there will be a lot of Christmas parties and a lot of things happening in the city." Mr Rayson said paramedics were well prepared to return from leave and come in on days off if conditions demanded even more resources. Be prepared for the heat Heatwaves kill far more people than other natural disasters. Adequate preparation is essential, especially for people at high risk such as the elderly and young children. ABC Emergency has a checklist of things you can do to be ready. SA Health chief medical officer Paddy Philips said simple acts could save lives. "Remember to check on your elderly friends, relatives and neighbours, because they can be particularly vulnerable, especially if they have any sort of cognitive impairment," he said. "Back in 2009, it was terrible, but we did see some people who switched their air conditioners on, but they weren't switched to cool." Mr Nairn said the high minimum temperatures made it "particularly dangerous" for those who were vulnerable. "There is not much chance to actually get relief from the heat," he said. "As we go through consecutive days of 40 and above, it just gets hotter at night. "It can be impossible to sleep unless you have that very expensive air conditioner on." Mr Nairn said a change was expected to move through the state on Saturday night through to Sunday, with maximum temperatures forecast at 30C on Sunday along with a possible shower. He said it would still be "uncomfortable" on Sunday as heat in the environment dissipated. Winds are also expected to increase on Saturday ahead of the change, posing a higher risk of a bushfire causing damage. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-17/climate-change-at-work-in-adelaide/7035926 Abc. you couldn't make it up
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Anthropogenic climate change is undeniable but all these fucking idiots pointing to climate change every time it gets hot or cold are super retarded.
We have like 200 years of data and all of a sudden every sequence of hot days is an indication of climate change? FFS these people need to stop winding up the masses.
It snowed on the Gold Coast (Hinterland Region) about 8 years ago, no one suggested that was climate change. I'd wager if it happened now the ABC would lose it's shit.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:GDeathe wrote:it is deluded to take anything that is presented as scientific "fact" seriously when the default position of science on anything and everything is "we just don't know"
the henny-penny approach of interpreting data-modelling is attune to doomsday cultists
The word 'fact' is used for the purpose of communicating with Joe public. Yes it is true, there are no such things as facts in science. Just because you jump off a building and turn into a pavement painting doesn't mean gravity is a fact, in the true scientific sense. But for the purpose of Joe public communication, gravity is a fact. Only maths deals in proofs (facts), science deals in probability, however strong. For the purpose of Joe public, is anthropogenic global warming a fact? You betcha! As for data modelling, many of the physical sciences use modelling. From physics, to chemistry, to meteorology. Nothing new. At 4am?! Really?? Where do you live?! :lol:
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:GDeathe wrote:it is deluded to take anything that is presented as scientific "fact" seriously when the default position of science on anything and everything is "we just don't know"
the henny-penny approach of interpreting data-modelling is attune to doomsday cultists
The word 'fact' is used for the purpose of communicating with Joe public. Yes it is true, there are no such things as facts in science. Just because you jump off a building and turn into a pavement painting doesn't mean gravity is a fact, in the true scientific sense. But for the purpose of Joe public communication, gravity is a fact. Only maths deals in proofs (facts), science deals in probability, however strong. For the purpose of Joe public, is anthropogenic global warming a fact? You betcha! As for data modelling, many of the physical sciences use modelling. From physics, to chemistry, to meteorology. Nothing new. Oh FFS re-read my post it's not the data modelling that is the problem its the interpretation that is henny-penny (you do understand the tale of henny-penny right) already we're seeing foxy-loxy sharpening their teeth after disposing Abbott and Harper just before the paris scam (yep we all got scammed out of a trillion dollars a year prevent a prophetic rise who in the fuck thought that was a good ROI. It is a height of arrogance and stupidity to think humanity as whole has a hand on the planet's thermostat when good old mother nature keeps on letting off Indonesian volcanos). To see normally such logical people jump on any adverse weather event as an omen to support their prophecy reeks of doomsday cuntists ... I mean cultists We've gone from scientific enlightenment back to the dark ages of theocratic feudalism with this anthropogenic global warming doomsday cult
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mcjules wrote:njdevil wrote:so a thought to ponder while the same brilliant minds ( who gave us YK2 the world will stop and go back to zero and put everyone into panic ) has they ever considered that surface of the earth is cooling down when you take into account that the earth was a molten ball when born it has continued to cool and eventually the core will solidify cause as we know we dont have perpetual energy so it will cool . ah then what maybe then our future generation may have something to worry about . but i suppose when they make first contact we will get the answers :-"
Putting aside the gross misunderstanding of what it actually was, Y2K (like climate change) really was a thing to be concerned about. It was appropriately taken seriously and things were fixed well ahead of time. Interestingly, there will be another one of these issues coming up in January of 2038. I hope to be out of the industry by then but there is going to be some sweet consulting dollars on offer leading up to that date =p~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problemEdited by mcjules: 20/12/2015 10:45:01 PM wow, look at the dissonance reduction shown in this post
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The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
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GDeathe wrote:mcjules wrote:njdevil wrote:so a thought to ponder while the same brilliant minds ( who gave us YK2 the world will stop and go back to zero and put everyone into panic ) has they ever considered that surface of the earth is cooling down when you take into account that the earth was a molten ball when born it has continued to cool and eventually the core will solidify cause as we know we dont have perpetual energy so it will cool . ah then what maybe then our future generation may have something to worry about . but i suppose when they make first contact we will get the answers :-"
Putting aside the gross misunderstanding of what it actually was, Y2K (like climate change) really was a thing to be concerned about. It was appropriately taken seriously and things were fixed well ahead of time. Interestingly, there will be another one of these issues coming up in January of 2038. I hope to be out of the industry by then but there is going to be some sweet consulting dollars on offer leading up to that date =p~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problemEdited by mcjules: 20/12/2015 10:45:01 PM wow, look at the dissonance reduction shown in this post Your pseudo-intellectual posts aren't fooling anyone.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
More nonsense from someone who reads too many books. Useless arrogant leftard. Of course you wouldn't see the issue with a lack of data. It's as silly as measuring annual rainfall with one months data :roll: No one denies anthropogenic climate change. The dispute is with alarmist reactions to a couple of hot days.
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
More nonsense from someone who reads too many books. Useless arrogant leftard. Of course you wouldn't see the issue with a lack of data. It's as silly as measuring annual rainfall with one months data :roll: No one denies anthropogenic climate change. The dispute is with alarmist reactions to a couple of hot days. A lot of people do deny it through ignorance but this continual leftard propaganda is annoying and painful.
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Also this murdoch rags says the same thing every post. The EXACT same thing. Get some new material man.
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
More nonsense from someone who reads too many books. Useless arrogant leftard. Of course you wouldn't see the issue with a lack of data. It's as silly as measuring annual rainfall with one months data :roll: No one denies anthropogenic climate change. The dispute is with alarmist reactions to a couple of hot days. Strawman to justify relatively apathetic action Doctor "you've a got a potentially cancerous melanoma" Patient "you're being alarmist"
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u4486662 wrote:Also this murdoch rags says the same thing every post. The EXACT same thing. Get some new material man. It's been nearly 3 decades since the first IPCC report. That mankind has been presented with evidence and forecasts, yet hasn't acted, has drawn the interest of psychologists & sociologists. There's bucketloads of research. Google Scholar is a good starting point, if you don't have access to paid journal databases
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Seems to be a lot of unnecessary hostility in this thread and playing the man.
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
More nonsense from someone who reads too many books. Useless arrogant leftard. Of course you wouldn't see the issue with a lack of data. It's as silly as measuring annual rainfall with one months data :roll: No one denies anthropogenic climate change. The dispute is with alarmist reactions to a couple of hot days. Quite a number of people do deny it, which is why we have the problem we do now. Nothing has been done about it and the climate is getting worse as a result. Watch the news. This is the most important issue of our time, ...of our age and until the deniers are converted or at least silenced we'll continue on this road to destruction of the planet and it will happen sooner than you think. You cant take a not my problem attitude, it doesnt help. Its everyone's problem.
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trident wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
More nonsense from someone who reads too many books. Useless arrogant leftard. Of course you wouldn't see the issue with a lack of data. It's as silly as measuring annual rainfall with one months data :roll: No one denies anthropogenic climate change. The dispute is with alarmist reactions to a couple of hot days. Quite a number of people do deny it, which is why we have the problem we do now. Nothing has been done about it and the climate is getting worse as a result. Watch the news. lol looking for omens are weThis is the most important issue of our time, ...of our age and until the deniers are [size=9] converted[/size] or at least silenced we'll continue on this road to destruction of the planet and it will happen sooner than you think. You cant take a not my problem attitude, it doesnt help. Its everyone's problem. yeah definitely not showing cultist behaviour here:-"
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trident wrote:Seems to be a lot of unnecessary hostility in this thread and playing the man. To play the ball is to engage with the scientific evidence, look at the causes & ultimately potentially admit the shortcomings of the capitalist system. Since it's easier to stick with the worldview that capitalism, as its operated in many countries, is the ultimate model rather than question its various shortcomings (eg: Chinese, Indian & now Iranian cities filled with sickening levels of air pollution as but one of many externalities) any threats to this worldview must be attacked, such as using words like 'alarmists', 'cultists', 'one world government', etc, etc, etc (ad nauseum) so as to divert mental attention away from questioning one's own worldview. Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 3/1/2016 11:53:20 PM
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trident wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The ignorance of the scientific method & peer review in this thread is sad, but not surprising. It is actually a reflection of the lack of it's inclusion in the secondary school curriculum or that it is poorly inculcated in students.
For those of you that talk about having 'only' 100+ years of data, that man can't influence earth's temperature and all the other ignorant phrases that I have read repeated ad nauseum from denial blogs, it might be worth educating yourselves on the meaning of the phrase 'Standing on the Shoulders of Giants', as a starting point. Although I am not sure that the wilful ignorance that goes hand in hand with right wing voting, would result in one's enlightenment.
More nonsense from someone who reads too many books. Useless arrogant leftard. Of course you wouldn't see the issue with a lack of data. It's as silly as measuring annual rainfall with one months data :roll: No one denies anthropogenic climate change. The dispute is with alarmist reactions to a couple of hot days. Quite a number of people do deny it, which is why we have the problem we do now. Nothing has been done about it and the climate is getting worse as a result. Watch the news. This is the most important issue of our time, ...of our age and until the deniers are converted or at least silenced we'll continue on this road to destruction of the planet and it will happen sooner than you think. You cant take a not my problem attitude, it doesnt help. Its everyone's problem. It is our problem and yet no one targets single vehicle usage???? No one targets plastic bags more than half seriously? People are too worried about mining (the very thing that will pay for the renewables eventually) and not worried enough about consumerism. The hilarious thing is how targeted eco-warriors and leotards are. They probably drive old shit box cars to their protests about climate change :lol:
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:GDeathe wrote:it is deluded to take anything that is presented as scientific "fact" seriously when the default position of science on anything and everything is "we just don't know"
the henny-penny approach of interpreting data-modelling is attune to doomsday cultists
The word 'fact' is used for the purpose of communicating with Joe public. Yes it is true, there are no such things as facts in science. Just because you jump off a building and turn into a pavement painting doesn't mean gravity is a fact, in the true scientific sense. But for the purpose of Joe public communication, gravity is a fact. Only maths deals in proofs (facts), science deals in probability, however strong. For the purpose of Joe public, is anthropogenic global warming a fact? You betcha! As for data modelling, many of the physical sciences use modelling. From physics, to chemistry, to meteorology. Nothing new. A scientific fact is something that is that the scientist observes and then uses to create their hypothesis. Gravity is a hypothesis based upon the fact that an apple falls to the ground. For the purpose of further hypothesises, like determining Kepler's Laws, gravity then becomes treated as fact.
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Miami wont exist in the next 100 years :shock:
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4th hottest year on record for Australia. Hottest year on record globally. Apologies righties, didn't mean to be alarmist...
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:4th hottest year on record for Australia. Hottest year on record globally. Apologies righties, didn't mean to be alarmist... Only the 4th? Alarmist.
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