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quichefc wrote:Interesting thread that I've mostly dipped in and out of but haven't contributed much...
On the topic of men's rights movement...
Men are losing (and in some instances have lost) control of aspects of the society that they have predominantly created. It should be said that while it's true that they created it was predominantly done so with the exclusion of women not because women didn't want to contribute... if women were able to contribute at an earlier juncture a feminist movement might never have had to eventuate.
This said I've not heard of too many women (there are some and they are generally backed by women's advocacy groups) that have complained about not having to go/being able to war to fight for their country and way of life... having said this war is very much a men's way of solving political impasse's...
If women created our society what would we have and what might men have had to fight for - aside from perhaps the right to act with brutality when threatened...? Fair analysis, although I don't think that men are decrying the loss of "control", as that implies that women are not entitled to self-determination.
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quichefc wrote:Interesting thread that I've mostly dipped in and out of but haven't contributed much...
On the topic of men's rights movement...
Men are losing (and in some instances have lost) control of aspects of the society that they have predominantly created. It should be said that while it's true that they created it was predominantly done so with the exclusion of women not because women didn't want to contribute... if women were able to contribute at an earlier juncture a feminist movement might never have had to eventuate.
This said I've not heard of too many women (there are some and they are generally backed by women's advocacy groups) that have complained about not having to go/being able to war to fight for their country and way of life... having said this war is very much a men's way of solving political impasse's...
If women created our society what would we have and what might men have had to fight for - aside from perhaps the right to act with brutality when threatened...? From an evolutionary perspective, I still think our society has been formed by women. Thats why we are more like Bonobos rather then Chimpanzees, although we have aspects of the latter.
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humbert wrote:http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118036/sexist-pseudoscience-alpha-male-pick-artists Amazing article. Truly amazing. Well done finding it. Starts off with a cherry picked quote from Rodger's manifesto with an unrelated drop-quote in brackets and a small transcript of trolls uncovered by a "journalist" from a prominent feminist site well known for making up facts to suit the agenda as it pleases. Goes onto the familiar disrespectful dismissal of Rodger's mental illness and delusional misanthropy in favour of exclusive misogyny. Sweeps into a false link to PUA. Discusses one PUA theory for a little bit without any real analysis. Hooks onto a particular word - "alpha" One useful sentence, that is then just as casually disregarded: Quote:What makes someone alpha depends upon who is asked, but the rule of thumb seems to be it’s related to whatever constitutes mainstream, attractive heterosexual masculinity in Western society: standing up straight, wearing clean clothes, no spitting, presenting as physically and emotionally “normal.” It’s not necessarily about being physically strongest or smartest, but being strong or smart enough to usurp a rival’s position or to make oneself the only attractive option in the club. Sweeps into a false link to TRP and the entire MRM. Confused false equivalency rebuttal to animal social structures. Links to several studies that do little to rebut the value of the above description of alpha, and rather does a better argument against modern radical feminism. Confused discussion of physical attraction. A complete mess of a tie-in back to the actions of Rodger, and a false conclusion about what an "alpha" assumes he has the right to do which draws on nothing factual and everything emotional feminist rhetoric.
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you're going to end up on a watchlist mate
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notorganic wrote:humbert wrote:http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118036/sexist-pseudoscience-alpha-male-pick-artists Amazing article. Truly amazing. Well done finding it. Starts off with a cherry picked quote from Rodger's manifesto with an unrelated drop-quote in brackets and a small transcript of trolls uncovered by a "journalist" from a prominent feminist site well known for making up facts to suit the agenda as it pleases. Goes onto the familiar disrespectful dismissal of Rodger's mental illness and delusional misanthropy in favour of exclusive misogyny. Sweeps into a false link to PUA. Discusses one PUA theory for a little bit without any real analysis. Hooks onto a particular word - "alpha" One useful sentence, that is then just as casually disregarded: Quote:What makes someone alpha depends upon who is asked, but the rule of thumb seems to be it’s related to whatever constitutes mainstream, attractive heterosexual masculinity in Western society: standing up straight, wearing clean clothes, no spitting, presenting as physically and emotionally “normal.” It’s not necessarily about being physically strongest or smartest, but being strong or smart enough to usurp a rival’s position or to make oneself the only attractive option in the club. Sweeps into a false link to TRP and the entire MRM. Confused false equivalency rebuttal to animal social structures. Links to several studies that do little to rebut the value of the above description of alpha, and rather does a better argument against modern radical feminism. Confused discussion of physical attraction. A complete mess of a tie-in back to the actions of Rodger, and a false conclusion about what an "alpha" assumes he has the right to do which draws on nothing factual and everything emotional feminist rhetoric. Delusional.
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notorganic
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Your insult slinging is no longer "endearing" (that was the word that you used, wasn't it?)
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Be that as it may, you've been found a fraud. Your claims have been systematically ridiculed over the past few pages, and yet you persist with this nonsense about redpill, PUAhate, and others not being misogynistic. Though reading back into your elaborate claims about feminism, I should have known better than to engage with you at all.
Let us end with this;
1 - Don't blame women if they don't want to have sex with you. 2 - 'Feminism' is not responsible for your inadequacy, you are. 3 - Pop psychology and pseudo-biology is your friend. 4 - Be all the Alpha you can be. 5 - There is no global feminist conspiracy to emasculate men. 6 - No, feminists are not planning a genocide.
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humbert wrote:Be that as it may, you've been found a fraud. Your claims have been systematically ridiculed over the past few pages, and yet you persist with this nonsense about redpill, PUAhate, and others not being misogynistic. Though reading back into your elaborate claims about feminism, I should have known better than to engage with you at all.
Let us end with this;
1 - Don't blame women if they don't want to have sex with you. 2 - 'Feminism' is not responsible for your inadequacy, you are. 3 - Pop psychology and pseudo-biology is your friend. 4 - Be all the Alpha you can be. 5 - There is no global feminist conspiracy to emasculate men. 6 - No, feminists are not planning a genocide. I can't handle all these strawmen :lol:
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I should find links to the forum discussions where feminists were discussing a male genocide. Would that make you a fraud, humbert?
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you should get a girlfriend mate
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ricecrackers wrote:you should get a girlfriend mate I tried, but the wife wouldn't let me.
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notorganic wrote:ricecrackers wrote:you should get a girlfriend mate I tried, but the wife wouldn't let me. "the wife" you speak of her as an object
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I just had a big wave of deja vu.
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notorganic wrote:I just had a big wave of deja vu. i suspect you can get medication for that Edited by ricecrackers: 9/6/2014 05:40:16 PM
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Somehow I don't think so.
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Did you ever read the SCUM manifesto, humbert?
More strawman feminism?
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notorganic wrote:Did you ever read the SCUM manifesto, humbert?
More strawman feminism? Would it help if I drew you a picture? There is no 'one' feminism; this really is something people learn in high school. In the converse, you referred to redpill as a source of considerable insight. I proved direct quotes from redpill's recommended reading to gruesome effect - conspiracy theories, 'genocides', misogyny, etc etc. Are you now willing to distance yourself from redpill?
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Did you watch the Jehovah's Feminists video?
Btw, nothing you have posted has been to "gruesome effect". I'm sorry that you have that delusion.
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notorganic wrote:ricecrackers wrote:you should get a girlfriend mate I tried, but the wife wouldn't let me. I lolled.
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I love how for YEARS notorganic has campaigned aggressively against the catholic church for providing a platform for pedophiles. The few bad eggs in the organisation were grounds for the entire organisation's public lynching.
Now with MRA's under the spotlight he is unwavering in defending redpill and other similar philosophies despite strong evidence that they provide a breeding ground for sexism, misogyny, domestic violence and mental illness.
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Well said.
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If only. Clearly neither of you watched the Jehovah's Feminists video, because it addresses both of the most recent points that you have made. Posting text showing disdain for feminisms effect on our society is not indicative of misogyny - that implies that all women are feminists - clearly they are not. No other evidence has been presented to demonstrate that the MRM and/or TRP encourage and "breed" sexism, domestic violence and (bizarrely) mental illness. Excellent work throwing your lot in with Mr Contrarian himself. Perhaps his wikipedia skills will be of use to your mangina.
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congrats, you've managed to unite several people with no love for one another against your disturbing new obsession
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notorganic wrote:No other evidence has been presented to demonstrate that the MRM and/or TRP encourage and "breed" sexism, domestic violence and (bizarrely) mental illness. Like This thread which says rapists who are beaten in self defence are victims. Or This thread making sweeping generalisations that all white women are 'protected' their entire lives. Alternatively This wonderful piece attacking a woman for having the audacity to have changing tastes and life expectations. Of course there's also captain charming suggesting the best way to a happy relationship is to 'wave your dick in her face'.
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afromanGT wrote:notorganic wrote:No other evidence has been presented to demonstrate that the MRM and/or TRP encourage and "breed" sexism, domestic violence and (bizarrely) mental illness. Like This thread which says rapists who are beaten in self defence are victims. Or This thread making sweeping generalisations that all white women are 'protected' their entire lives. Alternatively This wonderful piece attacking a woman for having the audacity to have changing tastes and life expectations. Of course there's also captain charming suggesting the best way to a happy relationship is to 'wave your dick in her face'. Did you forget to log back into your multi?
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