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tommyjet wrote:pv4 wrote:tommyjet wrote:samb wrote:Definitely positive stuff, looking like our strongest squad in years (ever???) Two spots left, hopefully paartalu and maybe a young striker but I reckon it'll be 2 mids ie paartalu/celeski or paartalu/baccus. Would honestly be happy with "just" Paartalu and Ward. Yeah forgot about him, I would be content with that too but celeski> ward easily Yeah I don't really rate Ward at all
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pv4
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samb wrote:tommyjet wrote:pv4 wrote:tommyjet wrote:samb wrote:Definitely positive stuff, looking like our strongest squad in years (ever???) Two spots left, hopefully paartalu and maybe a young striker but I reckon it'll be 2 mids ie paartalu/celeski or paartalu/baccus. Would honestly be happy with "just" Paartalu and Ward. Yeah forgot about him, I would be content with that too but celeski> ward easily Yeah I don't really rate Ward at all Really? I really, really do rate him. Watching him train with the squad last year, they seem to hold him in such high esteem. And he looked a class above in said trainings I saw him in. He's so versatile - could pretty much come on and play in any position you needed him to. A player with his kind of CV, assuming he was cheap (which I assume he would be seeing as though he's a bit of a journeyman) can IMO not be too bad a signing.
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pv4 wrote:samb wrote:tommyjet wrote:pv4 wrote:tommyjet wrote:samb wrote:Definitely positive stuff, looking like our strongest squad in years (ever???) Two spots left, hopefully paartalu and maybe a young striker but I reckon it'll be 2 mids ie paartalu/celeski or paartalu/baccus. Would honestly be happy with "just" Paartalu and Ward. Yeah forgot about him, I would be content with that too but celeski> ward easily Yeah I don't really rate Ward at all Really? I really, really do rate him. Watching him train with the squad last year, they seem to hold him in such high esteem. And he looked a class above in said trainings I saw him in. He's so versatile - could pretty much come on and play in any position you needed him to. A player with his kind of CV, assuming he was cheap (which I assume he would be seeing as though he's a bit of a journeyman) can IMO not be too bad a signing. A player with his kind of CV? What playing for half the teams in the comp, mostly on one year deals and failing to do enough to ever get a long term contract? He was a kid with a bit of talent, but little application and no consistency. Journeyman squaddie. That's all. Celeski really isn't that much better, but did at least nail down a starting position for much of his career thus far. Limited player though.
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kaufusi wrote: A player with his kind of CV? What playing for half the teams in the comp, mostly on one year deals and failing to do enough to ever get a long term contract? He was a kid with a bit of talent, but little application and no consistency. Journeyman squaddie. That's all.
Celeski really isn't that much better, but did at least nail down a starting position for much of his career thus far. Limited player though.
Agree 100% in regards to Ward, he's a dead set list clogger. Could not disagree more when it comes to Celeski though, he was one of the best midfielders in the league before he did his ACL and although it took him time (a few seasons) to recover from the injury, his form under Ange was brilliant, he was easily amongst the best centre mids of the comp and I believe he even topped the league in completed passes. One's an average journeyman passing through club to club who never lived up to his potential , and the other has twice demonstrated that when injury free he's one of the best deep lying play makers to grace the league; the comparison does not even run close.
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samb
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Fredsta wrote:kaufusi wrote: A player with his kind of CV? What playing for half the teams in the comp, mostly on one year deals and failing to do enough to ever get a long term contract? He was a kid with a bit of talent, but little application and no consistency. Journeyman squaddie. That's all.
Celeski really isn't that much better, but did at least nail down a starting position for much of his career thus far. Limited player though.
Agree 100% in regards to Ward, he's a dead set list clogger. Could not disagree more when it comes to Celeski though, he was one of the best midfielders in the league before he did his ACL and although it took him time (a few seasons) to recover from the injury, his form under Ange was brilliant, he was easily amongst the best centre mids of the comp and I believe he even topped the league in completed passes. One's an average journeyman passing through club to club who never lived up to his potential , and the other has twice demonstrated that when injury free he's one of the best deep lying play makers to grace the league; the comparison does not even run close. I had never realised how quality a player Celeski was until watching some highlights compilation on youtube. Always seems so calm on the ball, and as you said he's a fantastic passer of the ball. Would love to have him on board, especially instead of Ward.
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http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2456970/jets-big-signing-edson-montano-still-grounded-in-ecuador/?cs=2439Quote:While the Jets sweat on Montano’s arrival, they have ruled out an offer for former Brisbane midfielder Erik Paartalu, playing in Thailand for Muang Thong United.
Paartalu’s agent has told the Jets he will not be available until the January transfer window at the earliest, and Newcastle need to reinforce their midfield before the season kicks off in October.
‘‘He’s one of the players that we were interested in for the holding midfield role,’’ Middleby said. ‘‘But there are a number of options.
‘‘We always look at quite a few players for any position.’’
The Jets have lost holding midfielders Ruben Zadkovich, Josh Brillante and Zenon Caravella over the off-season and need a replacement to provide support for Ben Kantarovski. Must mean only one thing:
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Eastern Glory
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RedKat wrote:Sadly for Victory fans Celeski is the very very obvious option. For the record I rate Celeski somewhat between Fredsta and kafusi but probably closer to Fredsta. Hes a decent player and would be a good addition to the Jets squad. I find this post highly confusing...
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Eastern Glory
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RedKat wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:RedKat wrote:Sadly for Victory fans Celeski is the very very obvious option. For the record I rate Celeski somewhat between Fredsta and kafusi but probably closer to Fredsta. Hes a decent player and would be a good addition to the Jets squad. I find this post highly confusing... Poorly written from me. What I meant to say is that comments like ' one of the best deep lying play makers to grace the league' is probably over selling him a bit. One of the best is pushing it but hes certainly decent. Hes very much the type of player the Jets need Ha! With you now :lol:
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pv4 wrote:http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2456970/jets-big-signing-edson-montano-still-grounded-in-ecuador/?cs=2439 Quote:While the Jets sweat on Montano’s arrival, they have ruled out an offer for former Brisbane midfielder Erik Paartalu, playing in Thailand for Muang Thong United.
Paartalu’s agent has told the Jets he will not be available until the January transfer window at the earliest, and Newcastle need to reinforce their midfield before the season kicks off in October.
‘‘He’s one of the players that we were interested in for the holding midfield role,’’ Middleby said. ‘‘But there are a number of options.
‘‘We always look at quite a few players for any position.’’
The Jets have lost holding midfielders Ruben Zadkovich, Josh Brillante and Zenon Caravella over the off-season and need a replacement to provide support for Ben Kantarovski. Must mean only one thing:  That sounds like bad news tbh, especially with the Jets' urgent demands for quality in that part of the XI? IMHO The only way they could get Paartalu earlier is if he somehow negotiates an earlier 'mutual-release' from his Thai club contract? It seems possible, in theory, given the time between October and January isn't that long - ending his Thai contract like Oct/Nov instead and joining Jets then suddenly don't seem so bad? :-k Else-wise they cope with stop-gaps or local options (Ben Kantarovski, the touted Mitch Oxborrow or the like?), waiting it out for the quality re-inforcements mid-season if the local boys can't quite do it? This plays out all the time at clubs in a way, with injury crisis' and co and such a void at DM could philosophically just provide opportunity for Kanta and co? :-k
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If we have two spots available we could sign Celeski and then get Paartalu in Jan as Aus marquee Knowing the Jerks however we will sign Nick Ward and try and make Gallaway a CDM
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Hearing that a 20 year old CB (name is Welsh, first name escapes me, starts with an A) that plays in NPL over here is going for a trial with the Jerks. Watched him play several times and he is very good coming out from the back.
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