The killer blow was the independent research showing that oil revenues were likely to drop faster than expected - at that point anyone with a child and half a brain would have thought 'what about the wee bairn's future?'

And I agree but possibly going into a depression isn't worth it.

The greater good etc.

-PB

Of course it's different but the point was that if you worried about what might happened nothing would ever get done.

Same as the "right time". There's almost never a "right time" to do anything if you listen to the naysayers.

"A man who makes no mistakes makes nothing at all."

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Meh.

Scotland should be allowed to do what they like. Doesn't mean they are gutless. Its a democracy, they voted to stay. Its not our call.

This. Especially considering how fragile the international economy is now.

-PB

Bit of a difference between aiming to go to the moon and deciding whether or not a country will actually be able to sustain itself in the future if it goes it alone.

Squibbed it big time just like we did.

Had a argument with a bloke yesterday about this. He said they hadn't thought it through properly.

Bugger that. Make the decision and then sort it all out after. That's what the US did when JFK said they were going to the moon.

If it were these days and they had to fill out a fucking risk management matrix before they got off their arses they'd still be sitting around wondering if they really could have gotten there after all.

With the attitude of some here and over there nothing big will ever be achieved. Sometimes you have to think big, sometimes you have to think grand, sometimes you need to aim for the stars..

Gutless.

Agreed, I feel as though the idea of independence was highly romanticised without taking into account the impact it would have on their economy

Scotland made the right decision.

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Edited by spfc: 19/9/2014 02:32:18 PM

I think ours was worse, over the 70s and 80s so many policies passed through parliament that has virtually made us completely independent from Britain. All we needed to do is get rid of the figure head, very little else would have changed. ](*,)

I suppose, but nonetheless:
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You can't compare a republican vote in Australia, to a founding nation of the union.

Like I said, spineless. Harsh as it sounds but true.

These are the defining moments that get enshrined in the eternal memories of nations, and for the Scots to have knocked this back speaks volumes. Not surprised though, given what transpired here in the Republican referendum 15 years ago :oops:

Scotland votes no.

Looks like No wins the day :( Spineless :oops:

Glasgow votes yes

The mother city has voted no:cool: (perth)

North Lankarkshire has voted yes, south Lankarkshire has voted no.

Not Scottish or British but I think a yes vote would have always been a hard sell. People are generally adverse to change so campaigning for keeping the status quo is always easier.

Glasgow has apparently voted yes

Aberdeenshire votes no!

Edited by iridium1010: 19/9/2014 01:37:33 PM

Angus votes no.

Was expecting the hebrides to vote no tbh.

Except their economy would probably go down the toilet if they break away lol.

-PB

God i hope the Ayes come through and win this. I'm English with big ties to Scotland but have zero love for the Union or this daft idea of "Britishness". From Scotlands view, I couldn't think of anything worse than being stuck with us and the feckin Tories. Only wish the north could go with them.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/scottish-referendum/results/

-PB