It's all about valuations really... If spurs get him, its probably down to them being willing to put up more cash...

Heard that we were going to have to pay 15mil for him. 10 sounds a lot better.

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Is there a reason your so happy? I know Moyes is a good manager, but is relatively unproven when it comes to Champions League chasing clubs.

Redknapp was decent. But his time came. He caused the downfall that lost us third place and ultimately the Champions League. Time to bring in someone new with ambition and who isn't going to dick around looking for bargain bin players and instead bring in some real quality.

In saying that, Moyes would be an absolutely fantastic acquisition. Even though he doesn't like to splash the cash, he's a much better manager than 'Arry.

Fair enough. Think the English FA are to blame for your downfall aswell. Did nothing to quash the rumours at all. Moyes is a brilliant manager though, and I can see you lot doing well with him.

Do not want Moyes to go to Tottenham :? He's a manager I actually really like.

Edited by neanderthal: 14/6/2012 10:44:43 AM

I think it's more down to the fact he doesn't have much to 'splash' at Everton.



Don't really understand your logic there. IMO, he was the reason you were up there in the first place.

Agreed

Agree with the above, Redknapp is the reason Spurs are even challenging for a top 4 spot. Aside from having extra money to spend I don't see why Moyes would leave.

Agreed.


Not saying that he didn't contribute to us being up there, but he's the reason we didn't come third. He didn't rotate the squad at all, players were tired because of that and he played players in the wrong positions. Come on, Bale having a free role? It won't work and it didn't work when Redknapp tried it. Instead of seeing straight away that it didn't work, he kept playing Bale there where he's useless.

I agree to a certain extent. But I don't think 'Arry really had the 'squad players'to come in a do a job in the places of Modric, Bale, etc.

Sure they do. You've got Bale, Kranjcar, Parker, Sandro, VDV, Modric, Huddlestone, Rose, Pienaar and Lennon in the midfield. There's bags of talent there and no reason why you shouldn't be rotating players.

Bale and Modric played over 3300 minutes each out of a possible 3614 for Spurs. Spurs were the only club in the league to have more than 4 players play over 3000 minutes (they had 5).

I can entirely understand what Maxi's saying about rotation, but at the same time that's a harsh reason to fire a man who took you from dead last when he took over to 4th place the last two seasons. Without him, spurs would still be mid-table and they are far from having the right to automatically expect qualification to the champions league every season.

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The majority of the players there were either first 11 players (are they going to come in and replace themselves?) or on loan/injured.

Huddlestone's injury aside, he probably could have had more than 69 minutes when he went down...
Rose was hardly given a chance all season.
You can't complain about 'lack of depth' in a side when you've sent that depth (that quite talented depth) out on loan to Everton. And surely Kranjcar warranted more than 641 minutes all season.

Agreed. With regard to Rose I have no idea why he's our 2nd left back when he is an atrocious defender. He is a winger and should play as one unless Benny starts teaching him how to defend properly. I'd like to see us blood a left-back from our juniors in the manner in which Livermore came through for us this year and Walker the year before. If Rose is to a be a left back, he needs to play like one and learn to tackle without leaving his feet.

Another decision I disliked was loaning out Caulker to Swansea. FFS we have a defender (CB) crisis every year and we send out our best up and coming prospect and loan Bassong which never got enough minutes. While our older CB's dropped like flies, he was off playing well for another team. I guess EPL experience was good for him so its not all bad, but we need to fit these young guys into our set-up A.S.A.P.

Seems to me like Arry didn't trust our back-up players. Kranjcar was one of our best players in achieving a maiden UCL appearance and was never given a chance this season. Furthermore VDV played injured far too often and Pav/Defoe were never given enough of a chance to build form.

A squad as big as our should never have lost 10 matches at the back end of the season. We also should not have defended for a draw at Villa Park. Apparently that is what soured the Levy-Redknapp relationship.

Kranjcar has been given fuck all credit this season by Harry. It struck me as odd given how big a role he played under Redknapp at Portsmouth. He'd have been great for rotating Van Der Vaart and/or Modric.

With his squad rotation, it seems as if Redknapp was afraid of dropping points against 'inferior' sides and be accused of 'underestimating' opponents by selecting a weakened side. And instead played an exhausted one and dropped the points anyway.

A very fair assessment and I totally agree.

With Kranjcar, he even scored important goals for us and never got a second chance to shine. Rafa had some average games and Harry persisted. As much as I like him, Rafa should have lost his spot to another striker or Niko at least once.

In fairness to VDV, a lot of his 'poor' form was when he was pushed to play through injury and/or playing on the right wing for fuck knows what reason.

Yeh, he generally played on the wing when David Bentley was back, and fit. That poor guy never got a fair chop under Arry and I always thought highly of him.

You've got Bentley, Bale, Lennon, Dos Santos, Pienaar and even Kranjcar who can play out wide...and you pick VDV?

It's almost as if he picked his starting team based around whichever 11 players had the best overall rating on FIFA. And now that I've said that, his claim during his tax evasion case that he "couldn't even fill out a team sheet" doesn't sound so ridiculous.

It'd be funny if THAT was what got him fired :lol:

Edited by afromanGT: 18/6/2012 07:34:23 PM

For lolz

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs/News/sigurdsson-to-join-club-04072012.page?

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Modric definitely leaving ;)

Edited by vaughn2111: 4/7/2012 09:51:59 PM

Not too bothered as long as we get a decent fee, 35m+.

Depends how many clubs are interested. If its only Madrid can see him going for a bit less, even though Levy's a strong negotiator, I dont think he could block a transfer again, would cause too much unrest.

Lost all respect for Kranjcar. Hits out at spurs for handling Modric. Tell me mr Kranjcar you stupid fuck, when teams are paying 20 mill for little kids, why can't spurs demand 38 mill for one of the best midfielders in Europe?

Wow this thread died in the ass anyway not a great performance last night IMO. Defence (particularly Gallas) were poor, have absolutely no idea what Walker was thinking for the last one. You don't try and beat a man in that area of the pitch and when you try something and screw it up usually you try and clear it but nope just stop it for Mata I rate Walker but that was ridiculous. Also while I am mad does anyone else think Siggurdson has been terrible since signing? He is good every now and again but most of the time I think he's been awful.

So, there's a chance I'll be attending the Tottenham-Everton game on April 7. If it comes through, do the Spurs fans have any advice or interesting things to share about seeing a game at WHL?

I don't support any EPL team, but I'll be supporting Spurs for the game of course. Other than not wearing Everton or Arsenal colours, and maybe wearing something white, what would you advise I do? Somewhere to go pre or post game? Learn a chant? Look out for a special statue at the stadium? Should I purchase flares or steal them from boats on the Thames?











(Don't answer that last question).