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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Anyway, so I'm gathering from your statement that there is no 'good' way to deal with being transferred, unless you're a free agent with no contractual requirements. If a club makes an offer for you which your club accepts then that's all well and good. If a club makes an offer and discusses it with the player then that's sweet. But players demanding to leave and thinking that they can call the shots and that they're bigger than the club does my head in. At what point has Bale done that? :?
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afromanGT
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If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around.
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Vaughn2111
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afromanGT wrote:If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around. Yes, I agree with you in general - but this still doesn't apply to Bale. Real have publicly tracked him, made an offer and now he is considering moving to the biggest club in the world. He hasn't handed a transfer request in, or tried to fish for a bid from real, or said that he isn't happy,or tried to force a move in any way possible. He is sitting back and letting the clubs decide. It's probably the best way any player has dealt with an offer from Real in recent times.
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afromanGT
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Quote:It's probably the best way any player has dealt with an offer from Real in recent times. The Illarramendi deal was well handled. Edited by afromanGT: 2/8/2013 07:28:41 PM
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Vaughn2111
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:It's probably the best way any player has dealt with an offer from Real in recent times. The Illarramendi deal was well handled. Edited by afromanGT: 2/8/2013 07:28:41 PM Fair enough. But with all the hype and press surrounding Bale, you have to admit that it's being well-handled.
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afromanGT
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Vaughn2111 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:It's probably the best way any player has dealt with an offer from Real in recent times. The Illarramendi deal was well handled. Edited by afromanGT: 2/8/2013 07:28:41 PM Fair enough. But with all the hype and press surrounding Bale, you have to admit that it's being well-handled. Again I disagree. I think Spurs should have been a lot more aggressive towards Real's attempts to tap him up.
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afromanGT wrote:Vaughn2111 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:It's probably the best way any player has dealt with an offer from Real in recent times. The Illarramendi deal was well handled. Edited by afromanGT: 2/8/2013 07:28:41 PM Fair enough. But with all the hype and press surrounding Bale, you have to admit that it's being well-handled. Again I disagree. I think Spurs should have been a lot more aggressive towards Real's attempts to tap him up. In what way? The official line has laways been 'bale is nit for sale', plus they've already got the offer from 80mil, to 86mil and now to 105mil (saw this reported today). If Bale was the one instigating the transfer, there is no way on earth that Real would be paying a world record fee for him. Edited by vaughn2111: 2/8/2013 07:52:57 PM
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afromanGT
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First of all, I refuse to believe that Real have added 20m to their offer over the last 2 days. No chance in hell. It'd be 105m Euro - 90m pound.
Secondly, Real's players and backroom staff constantly talking about Bale and all that jazz...Spurs really should have told them to knock that off. It's all just an attempt to unsettle Bale and unless clubs make a stand against it, they're going to continue doing it and I think it's unprofessional and arrogant for the likes of Real and Barca to keep doing it.
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afromanGT wrote:First of all, I refuse to believe that Real have added 20m to their offer over the last 2 days. No chance in hell. It'd be 105m Euro - 90m pound.
Secondly, Real's players and backroom staff constantly talking about Bale and all that jazz...Spurs really should have told them to knock that off. It's all just an attempt to unsettle Bale and unless clubs make a stand against it, they're going to continue doing it and I think it's unprofessional and arrogant for the likes of Real and Barca to keep doing it. Fair enough with the bids and look, maybe we should have said something about Real's tactics. But is forcing a world record bid really lying down and letting Real walk over you? Besides, we're on a different topic now :lol:
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Reports in AS that Bale has refused to play in Tottenham's friendly clash with Monaco tomorrow.
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afromanGT wrote:Reports in AS that Bale has refused to play in Tottenham's friendly clash with Monaco tomorrow. I know AVB was only ever hopeful that Bale would be fit for Monaco, more recently Bale has been doubtful to play because if his strain. Who knows though.
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Spurs have reached an agreement with the MLS for Clint Dempsey. Believe he is joining Seattle. Also AVB spoke briefly about the Bale saga after our friendly last night. Quote:Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas feels Real Madrid counterpart Carlo Ancelotti was wrong to go public with their offer for Gareth Bale.
When asked if he felt Ancelotti was in the wrong, Villas-Boas said: "I think so, in my opinion.
"Carlo is a person I appreciate a lot and we have great respect for each other, but bearing in mind this situation they have decided to make it public.
We have seen lots of people speak about a player that is not theirs and we are due some respect.
"These rumours of an imminent transfer are not true. The only thing we have communicated with Real Madrid is that he is our player and he is not for sale.
Biggest man crush on AVB. Haha.
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Bravo. Nice to see someone tell Madrid to mind their own business.
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And the petulance has started.
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Madrid are doing what Spurs did to Southampton over Bale.
( Stop singing our song )
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afromanGT wrote:If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around. To be fair to Bale... he IS bigger than this particular club. =;
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Neanderthal wrote:afromanGT wrote:If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around. To be fair to Bale... he IS bigger than this particular club. =; I was waiting for a gunners fan to jump on that :lol:
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afromanGT wrote:Neanderthal wrote:afromanGT wrote:If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around. To be fair to Bale... he IS bigger than this particular club. =; I was waiting for a gunners fan to jump on that :lol: I think I'm the only Arsenal fan that wants Bale to stay. Spurs with 3 new top class signings are far more dangerous than a system relying on Bale.
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jlm8695 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Neanderthal wrote:afromanGT wrote:If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around. To be fair to Bale... he IS bigger than this particular club. =; I was waiting for a gunners fan to jump on that :lol: I think I'm the only Arsenal fan that wants Bale to stay. Spurs with 3 new top class signings are far more dangerous than a system relying on Bale. 3 top class signings, plus Bale. You guys should be pretty nervous.
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Vaughn2111 wrote:jlm8695 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Neanderthal wrote:afromanGT wrote:If you're requesting to leave when you're under contract to the club then to me the implication is there that you perceive yourself to be more important than the club. Despite the fact that the player is under contract they're calling the shots - they shouldn't be. The club owns the player, not the other way around. To be fair to Bale... he IS bigger than this particular club. =; I was waiting for a gunners fan to jump on that :lol: I think I'm the only Arsenal fan that wants Bale to stay. Spurs with 3 new top class signings are far more dangerous than a system relying on Bale. 3 top class signings, plus Bale. You guys should be pretty nervous. As it stands , this is the first year I've been genuinely worried. That will change if we spend some fucking money though. Edited by jlm8695: 5/8/2013 02:15:17 PM
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jlm wrote:if we spend some fucking money though. :lol: jlm wrote:I think I'm the only Arsenal fan that wants Bale to stay. Spurs with 3 new top class signings are far more dangerous than a system relying on Bale. I can't see Levy giving the green light to reinvest the entire Bale transfer fee any way.
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jlm8695 wrote:
As it stands , this is the first year I've been genuinely worried. That will change if we spend some fucking money though.
Edited by jlm8695: 5/8/2013 02:15:17 PM
As it stands, if things carry on this way, its United v Arsenal for fourth spot.
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Some talk building that West Brom and QPR are interested in Defoe. I believe I remember him saying that he wanted to fight for his place at Spurs, so I don't see him leaving. Methinks this is just follow-on speculation after signing Soldado.
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West Brom are lacking in the striker department but I don't think they need more deadwood :lol:.
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zimbos_05 wrote:jlm8695 wrote:
As it stands , this is the first year I've been genuinely worried. That will change if we spend some fucking money though.
Edited by jlm8695: 5/8/2013 02:15:17 PM
As it stands, if things carry on this way, its United v Arsenal for fourth spot. ](*,)
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Fredsta wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:jlm8695 wrote:
As it stands , this is the first year I've been genuinely worried. That will change if we spend some fucking money though.
Edited by jlm8695: 5/8/2013 02:15:17 PM
As it stands, if things carry on this way, its United v Arsenal for fourth spot. ](*,) Hey, he's one of yours :lol:
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Vaughn2111 wrote:Fredsta wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:jlm8695 wrote:
As it stands , this is the first year I've been genuinely worried. That will change if we spend some fucking money though.
Edited by jlm8695: 5/8/2013 02:15:17 PM
As it stands, if things carry on this way, its United v Arsenal for fourth spot. ](*,) Hey, he's one of yours :lol: Don't remind me :lol: For what it's worth though I do think it's going to be a very tight race for a top four position but to suggest we'd slip as low as fourth because we haven't added a new face to a side that waltzed home with the title is laughable. Granted Moyes lacks experience at this high level, but by the same token we've no idea how Pellegrini will adapt with City and whilst Jose is a genius Chelsea haven't strengthened that much either. Looking forward to seeing how your lot show though Vaughn, Bale or no Bale you've still strengthened considerably, I think Paulinho will be a brilliant addition.
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This could well make for one of the most level playing fields in many years.
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afromanGT wrote:This could well make for one of the most level playing fields in many years. Agree 100%. 2 new managers in Manchester, a new (and very much proven) manager in London, a well-strengthened side in north London and the only top 4 club (from last season) who's remained consistent (too consistent though). Now, realistically it means that it's a 3 horse race between Chelsea, Utd and city - but spurs and arsenal will be more competitive than last year.
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Amazing how quickly you've dismissed Liverpool and Swansea.
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