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1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1
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SocaWho wrote:
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So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.
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433 wrote:
1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

If the victims were your best friends or members of your own family, I think Step 2 will be sorely tested.
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humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
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So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.

Well he did send hateful threatening letters to dead ADF personnel's families and was charged for it.
. If he wasn't deported then at the very least should he have been behind bars and refused bail.
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433 wrote:
1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

why do you feel the need to regurgitate the same shit over and over? Do you think that you are smart? Seriously shut the fuck up you little schoolboy. Understand that your view of the world is incredibly one-dimensional due to your age and maybe you can shut up and learn something

Edited by Mozilla: 18/12/2014 02:07:27 PM
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Mozilla wrote:
433 wrote:
1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

why do you feel the need to regurgitate the same shit over and over? Do you think that you are smart? Seriously shut the fuck up you little schoolboy. Understand that your view of the world is incredibly one-dimensional due to your age and maybe you can shut up and learn something

Edited by Mozilla: 18/12/2014 02:07:27 PM

Best post ever =d>
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biscuitman1871 wrote:
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I don't like either Right or Left Wing methodology and I will place an absentee ballot at the next election.


?

An absentee vote is when you lodge your vote at a polling booth which is outside of the electorate you are registered to vote in.

Socawho strikes again.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
biscuitman1871 wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
I don't like either Right or Left Wing methodology and I will place an absentee ballot at the next election.


?

An absentee vote is when you lodge your vote at a polling booth which is outside of the electorate you are registered to vote in.

Socawho strikes again.


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Mozilla wrote:
433 wrote:
1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

why do you feel the need to regurgitate the same shit over and over? Do you think that you are smart? Seriously shut the fuck up you little schoolboy. Understand that your view of the world is incredibly one-dimensional due to your age and maybe you can shut up and learn something

Edited by Mozilla: 18/12/2014 02:07:27 PM


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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
So AFP now confirm themselves that Monis was not a registered firearms licence holder. Which begs the question, where the fuck did Abbott get that from.

Remember when Abbott told the world media that they had found the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing?
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SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
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So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.

Well he did send hateful threatening letters to dead ADF personnel's families and was charged for it.
. If he wasn't deported then at the very least should he have been behind bars and refused bail.

Sending people to jail for words is what places like Iran and China do.

Do you filter your own thoughts at all?
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batfink wrote:
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I hate Bolt, but on this occasion a lot of what he says is hard to argue with. I'm sure he enjoyed typing it. It's nice that he at least tried to acknowledge that there are Muslims who are not a problem (even if he did say it in such a way as to imply that we only need to be nice to them because they can help us with those who are a problem).

I would take him to task on one major issue though... His suggestion that these sorts of things don't happen in the name of Christianity... Perhaps if he put his thinking hat on he could remember all the shit Christians pulled on each other in Ireland in the 70s-90s (a civil war of sorts, but clearly drawn along religious lines and justified by their faith that they were doing God's work); ditto the ethnic cleansing on Muslims in Bosnia by, wait, surely not Christians - in the name of the Lord; or the relatively recent Christian genocide of Muslims in Rwanda... Hey ho, no worry though... It's only Islamic fundamentalists we need to concern ourselves with.

But you know bolta , if it doesnt fit in his argument he glosses over it . Ive read his blog and I must say their are some really fucked up people out there


You can hardly single out Bolt for that. Every columnist does it to push their point of view (whatever that may be).



i think the thing with Bolt is he is prepared to say what he wants and doesn't care if you like it or not, and to many people who have an opposing view it pisses them off massively......i think a lot of what he says is very accurate, but i think you just don't want to acknowledge it or accept it


No, the problem with Bolt is that whilst SOME of what he says is fair game, grounded in a fair opinion, he deliberately takes it further in order to get a reaction. A form of extremism... He knows he's doing it, and anyone with a brain knows he's doing it too... Those without a brain, however, take it too far, swallow it, believe it, and use it as justification to continue and increase the hate.

As I said - the first part of his breakdown of the Sydney situation was fine, but he kept going. As noted, the implication that the only reason for engaging with Muslims is so that they can help us sort out the bad element - rather than stating quite clearly that the vast majority of Muslims in Australia are perfectly decent human beings who want nothing to do with this kind of thing - was clear. Similarly, trying to make out that Christians don't kill in the name of their religion, when there's evidence from living memory of plenty of atrocities, is blinkered to say the least.
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Mozilla wrote:
433 wrote:
1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

why do you feel the need to regurgitate the same shit over and over? Do you think that you are smart? Seriously shut the fuck up you little schoolboy. Understand that your view of the world is incredibly one-dimensional due to your age and maybe you can shut up and learn something

Edited by Mozilla: 18/12/2014 02:07:27 PM

Love it =d>
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notorganic wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
So AFP now confirm themselves that Monis was not a registered firearms licence holder. Which begs the question, where the fuck did Abbott get that from.


Remember when Abbott told the world media that they had found the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing?


x2. Probably from the same dickhead that said there was a bomb at the Opera House.


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notorganic wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.

Well he did send hateful threatening letters to dead ADF personnel's families and was charged for it.
. If he wasn't deported then at the very least should he have been behind bars and refused bail.

Sending people to jail for words is what places like Iran and China do.

Do you filter your own thoughts at all?

Depends on the words. Say its death threats, that says " I want to kill you" then is that nothing to fear then? or do you wait for the actual event to happen and then say oh well we were too late. You seem quite intent on defending anything until after it is too late for intervention.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 05:13:50 PM
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SocaWho wrote:
notorganic wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.

Well he did send hateful threatening letters to dead ADF personnel's families and was charged for it.
. If he wasn't deported then at the very least should he have been behind bars and refused bail.

Sending people to jail for words is what places like Iran and China do.

Do you filter your own thoughts at all?

Depends on the words. Say its death threats, that says " I want to kill you" then is that nothing to fear then? or do you wait for the actual event to happen and then say oh well we were too late. You seem quite intent on defending anything until after it is too late for intervention.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 05:13:50 PM

Did the letters say that he wanted to kill them?
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humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.


Unfortunately, our Liberal friends won the last election almost entirely due to the majority's fixation with the notion that Australia would be a better and safer place if we could just close the doors and not let any of those nasty Muslims in - thus pre-empting all terrorist actions.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Mozilla wrote:
433 wrote:
1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

why do you feel the need to regurgitate the same shit over and over? Do you think that you are smart? Seriously shut the fuck up you little schoolboy. Understand that your view of the world is incredibly one-dimensional due to your age and maybe you can shut up and learn something

Edited by Mozilla: 18/12/2014 02:07:27 PM

Best post ever =d>


no that is not the best post ever........it is an opinion based on similar ignorance that causes the hatred that fuels the problems in our world, you need to be more tolerant of other people views.....:-" :-"
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Benjamin wrote:
humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.


Unfortunately, our Liberal friends won the last election almost entirely due to the majority's fixation with the notion that Australia would be a better and safer place if we could just close the doors and not let any of those nasty Muslims in - thus pre-empting all terrorist actions.



wow...just wow.....](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
So AFP now confirm themselves that Monis was not a registered firearms licence holder. Which begs the question, where the fuck did Abbott get that from.


Abbott was advised by the AFP that he had a gun license ....obviously they were wrong to give that advice
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batfink wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
So AFP now confirm themselves that Monis was not a registered firearms licence holder. Which begs the question, where the fuck did Abbott get that from.


Abbott was advised by the AFP that he had a gun license ....obviously they were wrong to give that advice

Why is it when Abbott gets things wrong you have excuses all day for him. It's an interesting contrast with how you treated Ruddard
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It's a bit strange that politicians and the media (including the ABC who should really know better) are running with the assertion that the fruitloop had a history of violent crime.

For reasons already covered in this thread, this line of rhetoric is extremely dangerous for our values as a democratic nation with the presumption of innocence being the cornerstone of our justice system. Far more dangerous than any threat from Islamists, I would say.
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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
So AFP now confirm themselves that Monis was not a registered firearms licence holder. Which begs the question, where the fuck did Abbott get that from.


Abbott was advised by the AFP that he had a gun license ....obviously they were wrong to give that advice

Why is it when Abbott gets things wrong you have excuses all day for him. It's an interesting contrast with how you treated Ruddard


Sounds like abort was trying to plant an anti gun sead and shift debate.
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Big attack planned for Sydney New Year's Eve apparently
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Always depressing to see the usual eruption of servility from the great unwashed following events of this type. Idiots clamouring for more restrictions on speech, movement, civil liberties, etc etc.

Case in point; anyone recall the online proposal for 'Charlotte's law' when that actress killed herself?

Ffs, this country. ](*,)
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notorganic wrote:
It's a bit strange that politicians and the media (including the ABC who should really know better) are running with the assertion that the fruitloop had a history of violent crime.

For reasons already covered in this thread, this line of rhetoric is extremely dangerous for our values as a democratic nation with the presumption of innocence being the cornerstone of our justice system. Far more dangerous than any threat from Islamists, I would say.

I agree with what you're saying regarding civil liberties but in the hearing the judge is expected to make a judgement on whether to give bail or not. Bail isn't a conviction but setting a reasonable date for the case to be heard and not allowing him out in the community if he's a risk makes sense.

However I think I read that the case the prosecution put together wasn't particularly strong and under current laws even then the judge wouldn't have been able to refuse bail because of the risk to the community (just if he was going to leave the state/country).

I wouldn't be changing any laws just because of this case but if there are significant stats on people committing violent crimes on bail then it's worth a look.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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humbert wrote:
Always depressing to see the usual eruption of servility from the great unwashed following events of this type. Idiots clamouring for more restrictions on speech, movement, civil liberties, etc etc.

Case in point; anyone recall the online proposal for 'Charlotte's law' when that actress killed herself?

Ffs, this country. ](*,)


Yeah true , everyone is a victim these days
And needs the government to protect them
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To persist with the theme, some of the most popular comments on change.org.

Re. Charlotte's law;

Mia Peders AUSTRALIA 10 months ago Liked 181
Track IP addresses of cyber bullies. Enough is enough. How many people need to die before the government does anything?

Jarrod Friedland AUSTRALIA 10 months ago Liked 103
There IS technology to find them, Social media sites - You need to pull these logs and records and provide them to police, Do the right thing as our kids use and will be using your sites - STOP hiding behind the excuse of we cant find the trolls and bullies - they should be made accountable and charged accordingly - Every human being deserves to live without fear or threat - Kids Adults Human beings are dying daily due to this attitude of its ok under the guise of free speech "IT IS NOT OK" It will only take prosecuting a few to stop the rest of the followers. RIP Charlotte, we will make this happen.


Re. Bail laws;

Lesley Griffin AUSTRALIA 2 days ago Liked 117
I'm signing because we need stronger laws... How was this man allowed to do these horrible things to the people of a country that welcomed him in our home for a better life. How dare he repay us in this way. And how dare the nsw justice system allow it.

Ross Hayden PERTH, AUSTRALIA 2 days ago Liked 25
We need the judges to have BALLS to keep these bastards in Jail or deport them, what is it that they don't understand about these people( if you can call them that ) they will continue with these criminal acts unless we toughen things up, you come to our country, you do things our way if are offened you can BUGGER OFF back where you came from . I fought for this country so as to keep it safe. We need tougher laws and if you step out of line your out.

Helen Macias AUSTRALIA 2 days ago Liked 13
How many more victims need to suffer before you people in positions of power do something to keep these scum bag lunatics off our streets???!!! Jill Maher, Daniel Morcombe, just to name a couple!!! You people who sign these bail release forms have blood on your hands, and will continue to have blood on your hands until you wake up and keep these criminals in jail! Next time it could be your coffee shop; or your trip to the shops; or your night out that gets ruined by some scumbag nutter who SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEHIND BARS!!!!! Please!!!! Do something and stop signing these guys up for bail !!!!!!!!!
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They're already talking about using metadata retention to find people who download Game of Thrones.

People are unreal.
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batfink wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
humbert wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
humbert wrote:
So fucking what if Iran wanted him extradited. Have you seen what they do to apostates?

Actually I don't, but I wouldn't mind seeing what had happened to Monis if he did happen to have been extradited over there.
But instead he inflicted his pain on misery on 17 innocent people here, so lets focus on the main issue.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 12:52:56 PM


Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.


Unfortunately, our Liberal friends won the last election almost entirely due to the majority's fixation with the notion that Australia would be a better and safer place if we could just close the doors and not let any of those nasty Muslims in - thus pre-empting all terrorist actions.



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Well he's not wrong :lol:

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