1. Muslim extremists commit atrocity
2. "It's only an isolated incident guys"; "They're not all like that"; #I'llridewithyou
3. See step 1

Yes because we can somehow pre-empt potential terrorist actions by ignoring legitimate claims of political asylum, and extraditing said individual to a state which has a pornographic fixation with apostates, homosexuals, and public executions.

All of this, bear in mind, subject to facts which we could not have possibly known until after said individual lost his marbles.

If the victims were your best friends or members of your own family, I think Step 2 will be sorely tested.

Well he did send hateful threatening letters to dead ADF personnel's families and was charged for it.
. If he wasn't deported then at the very least should he have been behind bars and refused bail.

why do you feel the need to regurgitate the same shit over and over? Do you think that you are smart? Seriously shut the fuck up you little schoolboy. Understand that your view of the world is incredibly one-dimensional due to your age and maybe you can shut up and learn something

Edited by Mozilla: 18/12/2014 02:07:27 PM

Best post ever =d>

Socawho strikes again.

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Facepalm.

-PB

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Remember when Abbott told the world media that they had found the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing?

Sending people to jail for words is what places like Iran and China do.

Do you filter your own thoughts at all?

No, the problem with Bolt is that whilst SOME of what he says is fair game, grounded in a fair opinion, he deliberately takes it further in order to get a reaction. A form of extremism... He knows he's doing it, and anyone with a brain knows he's doing it too... Those without a brain, however, take it too far, swallow it, believe it, and use it as justification to continue and increase the hate.

As I said - the first part of his breakdown of the Sydney situation was fine, but he kept going. As noted, the implication that the only reason for engaging with Muslims is so that they can help us sort out the bad element - rather than stating quite clearly that the vast majority of Muslims in Australia are perfectly decent human beings who want nothing to do with this kind of thing - was clear. Similarly, trying to make out that Christians don't kill in the name of their religion, when there's evidence from living memory of plenty of atrocities, is blinkered to say the least.

Love it =d>

x2. Probably from the same dickhead that said there was a bomb at the Opera House.

Depends on the words. Say its death threats, that says " I want to kill you" then is that nothing to fear then? or do you wait for the actual event to happen and then say oh well we were too late. You seem quite intent on defending anything until after it is too late for intervention.

Edited by SocaWho: 18/12/2014 05:13:50 PM

Did the letters say that he wanted to kill them?

Unfortunately, our Liberal friends won the last election almost entirely due to the majority's fixation with the notion that Australia would be a better and safer place if we could just close the doors and not let any of those nasty Muslims in - thus pre-empting all terrorist actions.

no that is not the best post ever........it is an opinion based on similar ignorance that causes the hatred that fuels the problems in our world, you need to be more tolerant of other people views.....:-" :-"

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Abbott was advised by the AFP that he had a gun license ....obviously they were wrong to give that advice

Why is it when Abbott gets things wrong you have excuses all day for him. It's an interesting contrast with how you treated Ruddard

It's a bit strange that politicians and the media (including the ABC who should really know better) are running with the assertion that the fruitloop had a history of violent crime.

For reasons already covered in this thread, this line of rhetoric is extremely dangerous for our values as a democratic nation with the presumption of innocence being the cornerstone of our justice system. Far more dangerous than any threat from Islamists, I would say.

Sounds like abort was trying to plant an anti gun sead and shift debate.

Big attack planned for Sydney New Year's Eve apparently

Always depressing to see the usual eruption of servility from the great unwashed following events of this type. Idiots clamouring for more restrictions on speech, movement, civil liberties, etc etc.

Case in point; anyone recall the online proposal for 'Charlotte's law' when that actress killed herself?

Ffs, this country. ](*,)

I agree with what you're saying regarding civil liberties but in the hearing the judge is expected to make a judgement on whether to give bail or not. Bail isn't a conviction but setting a reasonable date for the case to be heard and not allowing him out in the community if he's a risk makes sense.

However I think I read that the case the prosecution put together wasn't particularly strong and under current laws even then the judge wouldn't have been able to refuse bail because of the risk to the community (just if he was going to leave the state/country).

I wouldn't be changing any laws just because of this case but if there are significant stats on people committing violent crimes on bail then it's worth a look.

Yeah true , everyone is a victim these days
And needs the government to protect them

To persist with the theme, some of the most popular comments on change.org.

Re. Charlotte's law;

Mia Peders AUSTRALIA 10 months ago Liked 181
Track IP addresses of cyber bullies. Enough is enough. How many people need to die before the government does anything?

Jarrod Friedland AUSTRALIA 10 months ago Liked 103
There IS technology to find them, Social media sites - You need to pull these logs and records and provide them to police, Do the right thing as our kids use and will be using your sites - STOP hiding behind the excuse of we cant find the trolls and bullies - they should be made accountable and charged accordingly - Every human being deserves to live without fear or threat - Kids Adults Human beings are dying daily due to this attitude of its ok under the guise of free speech "IT IS NOT OK" It will only take prosecuting a few to stop the rest of the followers. RIP Charlotte, we will make this happen.


Re. Bail laws;

Lesley Griffin AUSTRALIA 2 days ago Liked 117
I'm signing because we need stronger laws... How was this man allowed to do these horrible things to the people of a country that welcomed him in our home for a better life. How dare he repay us in this way. And how dare the nsw justice system allow it.

Ross Hayden PERTH, AUSTRALIA 2 days ago Liked 25
We need the judges to have BALLS to keep these bastards in Jail or deport them, what is it that they don't understand about these people( if you can call them that ) they will continue with these criminal acts unless we toughen things up, you come to our country, you do things our way if are offened you can BUGGER OFF back where you came from . I fought for this country so as to keep it safe. We need tougher laws and if you step out of line your out.

Helen Macias AUSTRALIA 2 days ago Liked 13
How many more victims need to suffer before you people in positions of power do something to keep these scum bag lunatics off our streets???!!! Jill Maher, Daniel Morcombe, just to name a couple!!! You people who sign these bail release forms have blood on your hands, and will continue to have blood on your hands until you wake up and keep these criminals in jail! Next time it could be your coffee shop; or your trip to the shops; or your night out that gets ruined by some scumbag nutter who SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEHIND BARS!!!!! Please!!!! Do something and stop signing these guys up for bail !!!!!!!!!

They're already talking about using metadata retention to find people who download Game of Thrones.

People are unreal.

Well he's not wrong :lol:

Stop the boats, 6 point action plans!

-PB