United States of America: Commander in Chief Joe Biden


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JP wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
Trump will win, I have a horrible feeling about this.


It is possible, but hugely unlikely I think. He still has a year to implode.

Right now he has momentum because he's seen as strong on terrorism in the wake of the Paris attacks, but just prior to them he was going backwards in the polls and was very crudely lashing out at other candidates (even worse than before) - he clearly wasn't coping with having a bad run of weeks. And as other Republicans drop out of the race I expect their supporters would coalesce around Trump's mainstream challenger (probably Rubio).

Even if he wins the nomination he'll be truly exposed for what he is (arrogant, incompetent, deluded etc.) once voters start paying more attention during the campaign for President itself. People will tend towards the devil they know (probably Clinton).


I wouldn't even go that far - Trump is popular because he is the ultimate "anti-politician" - says all the things politicians don't, is charismatic and bombastic etc.

People like this early on in an election campaign when they aren't really engaged or taking things seriously. But when it comes time to actually decide who runs the country, no one will vote for him.

Edited by AzzaMarch: 25/11/2015 09:40:09 AM
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Labeling anyone a fascist is somewhat problematic because it's a difficult term to actually define, but this is an interesting read all the same.

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_label_that_best_describes.html
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So trump went low. Even lower than before. He has no mocked a ny times reporters disability. And his supporters whooped and hollered at it.
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Sanctimony is in oversupply.
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Donald Trump suffers his largest drop in polls after week of controversy

Reuters

Saturday 28 November 2015 13.56 AEDT


Donald Trump’s support among Republicans has dropped 12 points in less than a week, marking the presidential hopeful’s biggest decline since he started leading the field in July, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Trump is still in the lead, with 31% of people surveyed naming him as their preferred candidate in a rolling poll over five days that ended on 27 November. However, that number was down from a peak of 43% on 22 November.

Trump accused of 'hate campaign' after claiming thousands cheered on 9/11

The sharp drop follows criticism of Trump for comments he made in the aftermath of the Paris attacks on 13 November in which 130 people died.

Following the attacks, Trump told an NBC News reporter that he would support a plan requiring all Muslims within the United States to be registered to a special database, which his critics likened to the mandatory registration of Jews in Nazi Germany.

Donald Trump says refugees could be ‘the greatest Trojan horse of all time’ on 19 November

Trump was also criticised for flailing his arms and distorting his speech as he mocked a New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who is disabled.

The strange display came as defended his unsubstantiated assertion that during the 9/11 attacks on the United States, he watched on television as “thousands and thousands” of people in New Jersey cheered while the World Trade Center fell.

The outspoken billionaire is not the only front-runner to lose points in the latest survey.

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson has seen his poll numbers drift downward and now trails Trump by more than half, with just 15% of Republicans polled saying they would vote for him in the same 27 November poll. As recently as late October, Carson trailed Trump by only six points.

Following Carson, Florida Senator Marco Rubio and Texas Senator Ted Cruz are tied for third place, with more than 8% each.

Florida governor Jeb Bush trailed Rubio and Cruz with 7%.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/donald-trump-suffers-his-largest-drop-in-polls-after-week-of-controversy
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
So trump went low. Even lower than before. He has no mocked a ny times reporters disability. And his supporters whooped and hollered at it.

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One of the many reasons i would hate to live in the US is their election processes. The whole thing is a disgrace to Democracy. The party with the most financial clout at the time almost always wins. Billions are spent by both sides every election. Land of the free my ass
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Scotch&Coke wrote:
One of the many reasons i would hate to live in the US is their election processes. The whole thing is a disgrace to Democracy. The party with the most financial clout at the time almost always wins. Billions are spent by both sides every election. Land of the free my ass


Not to be pedantic but I would argue that the election process itself is actually not bad. I like the idea of primary elections - you get to vote as to who your party's candidate will be, not just in the general election itself.

Their issue is that there is virtually no limit on election funding. Once the Supreme Court decided that money = "speech" there has been crazy spending levels.

The other issue is with Congress. Everyone focusses on the presidential election, but congress has as much power, if not more at times.

Their electoral commissions that decide the electoral boundaries for the congressional seats are often voted in and partisan. Therefore you have a huge amount of gerrymandering happening, and as a result, something like only 30 seats out of around 300 are even competitive.

That is why members of congress are so extreme - they are generally in seats that are so safe that the competitive race is the party primary - the general election isn't a contest.

Finance reform + independent electoral commissions = the end of gaming the electoral system.
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The Reuters poll mentioned in the article above is not well regarded. The 43% Trump recorded in the previous poll is regarded as being far too high and not supported by other polls so the drop of 12% is at least a bit inaccurate. He is still is comfortably leading in this and all other national polls at the moment as Carson is really falling in the polls.

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Drunken_Fish wrote:
The Reuters poll mentioned in the article above is not well regarded. The 43% Trump recorded in the previous poll is regarded as being far too high and not supported by other polls so the drop of 12% is at least a bit inaccurate. He is still is comfortably leading in this and all other national polls at the moment as Carson is really falling in the polls.


He rose 15% or something and then dropped by 12%, all this shows that the polls are wildly fluctuating.

What's important is that he is lapping the field and has been doing so for 3-4 months at this point.


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433 wrote:
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The Reuters poll mentioned in the article above is not well regarded. The 43% Trump recorded in the previous poll is regarded as being far too high and not supported by other polls so the drop of 12% is at least a bit inaccurate. He is still is comfortably leading in this and all other national polls at the moment as Carson is really falling in the polls.


He rose 15% or something and then dropped by 12%, all this shows that the polls are wildly fluctuating.

What's important is that he is lapping the field and has been doing so for 3-4 months at this point.

It'll get closer when people start to drop out either just before or just after Iowa.

Make no mistake, he is the favourite for republican nominee
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I will laugh so hard if trump becomes president. Which is certainly possible.
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u4486662 wrote:
I will laugh so hard if trump becomes president. Which is certainly possible.
I will be watching south park
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tbitm wrote:
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I will laugh so hard if trump becomes president. Which is certainly possible.
I will be watching south park

Fuck they will have a field day.
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Get in Bernie.
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America is ready for a fascist president.

This is the final solution.
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Get in Bernie.


I don't think le free shit man is the right choice for America. But hey, it's better than the criminal liar that is Hillary so why not?

Trump will tear both of them to shreds.
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tbitm wrote:
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The Reuters poll mentioned in the article above is not well regarded. The 43% Trump recorded in the previous poll is regarded as being far too high and not supported by other polls so the drop of 12% is at least a bit inaccurate. He is still is comfortably leading in this and all other national polls at the moment as Carson is really falling in the polls.


He rose 15% or something and then dropped by 12%, all this shows that the polls are wildly fluctuating.

What's important is that he is lapping the field and has been doing so for 3-4 months at this point.

It'll get closer when people start to drop out either just before or just after Iowa.

Make no mistake, he is the favourite for republican nominee


Biggest threat is Rubio now that Bush is done.

Carson capitulated like we all knew he would, and the only other person within a shot is Cruz, so it's down to a three horse race at this point.
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Rubio should be Trump's biggest threat but Cruz is doing better in the polls. Cruz could very well win Iowa as he has replaced Carson as being a big threat to Trump. Carson was comfortably ahead there at one stage.
Cruz could win Iowa, Trump win New Hampshire with Cruz second, same in South Carolina with Cruz winning Nevada. Meaning the race is framed as Trump vs Cruz heading into Super Tuesday and leaving Rubio far behind after that.

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The worst outcome is for the Republicans to win the election full stop
Such simple people, with such simple solutions and no surprise that all candidates deny the science of anthropogenic global warming
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So Trump has announced he wants to ban Muslims entering the US.

Good luck with making that work.

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This whole election process is merely a delay in the coronation of Hillary as President. She will piss it in.
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Drunken_Fish wrote:
So Trump has announced he wants to ban Muslims entering the US.

Good luck with making that work.
You know he will go up in the polls among Republicans because of this.
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With the election still a year away, its easy to forget that the first primary which is by far the most important primary is just under 2 months away in Iowa. Lord knows why such a nothing place like Iowa gets so much power in deciding elections, but they do.

Here is a summary for the polls and the days of the primaries.


Iowa
February 1st


Republicans
Trump 25.7
Cruz 22.3
Carson   15.7
Rubio 13.7
Bush 4.7
Paul 4.0
Fiorina 3.0
Christie 2.0
Huckabee 2.0   
Kasich 1.7
Santorum 1.3

Democrats
Clinton 56.3
Sanders 30.5
O'Malley 2.3

New Hampshire
9th February


Republicans
Trump 28.3
Rubio 12.3
Cruz 9.5
Carson 8.5
Kasich 8.0
Christie 7.0
Bush 6.8
Fiorina 5.3
Paul 3.8
Huckabee 1.0   
Graham 0.5
Santorum 0.5
Pataki 0.3

Democrats
Sanders 46.3   
Clinton 44.3
O'Malley 5.3

Nevada
20th February for Democrats, 23rd for Republicans
(Polls are outdated)

Republicans
Trump 38
Carson 22
Fiorina 8
Rubio 7
Bush 6
Cruz 4
Huckabee 4
Paul 2
Christie 1
Pataki 1
Kasich 1

Democrats
Clinton 52.5
Sanders 26.0

South Carolina
27th for Democrats, 20th for Republicans

Republicans
Trump 30.0
Carson 20.0
Rubio 14.5
Cruz 14.0
Bush 6.5
Fiorina 3.5
Kasich 2.5
Graham 2.5
Huckabee 2.0
Paul 1.5
Christie 1.0   
Santorum 1.0

Democrats
Clinton 71.0
Sanders 21.3
O'Malley 2.7

Edited by tbitm: 10/12/2015 12:44:42 AM
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I disagree that Iowa is the most important primary, it may seal the fate of some of the candidates but some will hang on until New Hampshire.

Cruz could win Iowa and not win another primary.

A combination of Iowa and New Hampshire will be very telling as Iowa tends to favor the conservative - religious section of the GOP while New Hampshire tends to be a lot more moderate in the way it votes. That is why Bush, Christie and Kashich are pinning their hopes on good showings in New Hampshire while not really trying in Iowa.

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AzzaMarch wrote:
This whole election process is merely a delay in the coronation of Hillary as President. She will piss it in.


Its time for a woman president. :)

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35052505

Trump's hate speech shall not be tolerated.
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trident wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
This whole election process is merely a delay in the coronation of Hillary as President. She will piss it in.


Its time for a woman president. :)

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35052505

Trump's hate speech shall not be tolerated.


Maybe, don't think Hillary should be that woman though.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
trident wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
This whole election process is merely a delay in the coronation of Hillary as President. She will piss it in.


Its time for a woman president. :)

=d>
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35052505

Trump's hate speech shall not be tolerated.


Maybe, don't think Hillary should be that woman though.

-PB

Yeah, but anything is better than a simpleton Republican in power.
That said, it means comedians will have to work harder to earn a dollar...
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paulbagzFC wrote:
trident wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
This whole election process is merely a delay in the coronation of Hillary as President. She will piss it in.


Its time for a woman president. :)

=d>
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35052505

Trump's hate speech shall not be tolerated.


Maybe, don't think Hillary should be that woman though.

-PB


What's wrong with Hillary?
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trident wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
trident wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
This whole election process is merely a delay in the coronation of Hillary as President. She will piss it in.


Its time for a woman president. :)

=d>
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35052505

Trump's hate speech shall not be tolerated.


Maybe, don't think Hillary should be that woman though.

-PB


What's wrong with Hillary?


She is a war mongering bitch thats what....
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