Geez

You could say that about the rest of the world too.

Just to rile the troops up, here’s ex NZ International Danny Hay, this week, on what he thinks of the Socceroos. These are the same crew we're asked to share OUR league with.....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/65145760/danny-hay-all-whites-need-asian-influence

“Australia, for example, are devoid of the world-class talent that once littered their side, yet they are still considered one of the most competitive AFC outfits. The talent pool in this country has all the makings of a side under Hudson that could match them.”

Give me strength...](*,)

For what it's worth New Zealand has played six different Asian nations in friendlies the last 18 months. These are the results:

Saudi Arabia 0-1 New Zealand
UAE 2-0 New Zealand
Japan 4-2 New Zealand
Uzbekistan 3-1 New Zealand
China 1-1 New Zealand
Thailand 2-0 New Zealand

Their other results in that period were twin thrashings by Mexico and scoreless draws against Trinidad and Tobago and South Africa. Actually, that win over Saudi is one of only two victories they have recorded over non-Oceania nations since their last WC appearance, the other was a win over Honduras almost three years ago.

This is very wishful thinking from the Kiwis.

http://www.the-afc.com/

The only one that matters for the purposes of this topic...

And Australian has just as woeful record since there last world cup minus this Asian cup.

Lol. Yeah let's exclude the only competitive matches since the World Cup to gauge the quality of Australia.

a) good work making three grammatical errors in one short sentence

b) with the exception of a very poor 2014, Australia's record since 2010 is:
2011 - Played 15, won 11, drew 3, lost 1
2012 - Played 13, won 7, drew 3, lost 3
2013 - Played 11, won 3, drew 3, lost 5

We have to play our WC qualifiers against decent opposition.

So on that basis, Israel is now located somewhere in Europe

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/

Da fuck man :lol:



its only because the middle eastern countries refused to have anything to do it israel. hell they want to see israel wiped off the map

Edited by heyitsrobbie: 28/1/2015 08:13:42 PM

For what's it worth the Australian continental plate includes the island of New Guinea, part of which belongs to Indonesia, so at a stretch our continent shares a land border with Asia.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahul_Shelf

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_(continent)

I don't think the author of the article was having a dig with his statement, but for what it's worth I know plenty of Kiwis who can't hear the word Socceroo mentioned alongside Asia, AFC or any like words without launching into a massive whine about our membership of the confederation so I'll give my thoughts on why their position is irrational.

Firstly, parts of Asia are much closer to Australia than New Zealand is and indeed, as the links I shared above show, part of continental plate is even claimed as sovereign territory by an Asian nation.

Due to that proximity the Indigenous Australians of the North had frequent contact, trade, cultural exchange and even interbreeding occurring possibly for over 500 years.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makassan_contact_with_Australia

Obviously also the arrival of the Dingo, which even at the oldest estimates came to Australia some 10,000 years ago, tens of thousands of years after human settlement first occurred here, suggests there had been interaction between South East Asia and Australia long before the Makassans arrived.

In comparison, in the entirety of human history there had been no connection between Australia and New Zealand until a mere 200 years ago, when the sole link was forged by the mere fact we were both colonised by the same European country. Before that, there were no geological links, anthropological, environmental, cultural etc. To say that 200 years under common colonial masters should determine what region of the world Australia belongs to, negating all other history before it, is absurd and in a way rather racist. Indeed, if it's our Europeaness which demands that our ties with a more distant neighbour should outweigh those of the closer then really we should be joining New Zealand not in Oceania, but UEFA!

Ultimately, short of establishing a new confederation featuring just us and Papua New Guinea, there is no Confederation to which Australia can really be said to fully belong. But a number of factors clearly link us to Indonesia and thus Asia, much more strongly and for a far greater time than our links with NZ, so it's more reasonable to be part of the AFC than part of the OFC. The real question is - why is PNG part of the OFC?

Edited by johnnyrook: 28/1/2015 09:45:15 PM

In terms of tectonic plates, we share the plate with India.

What? You don't get it?

I think it really speaks to the current humanistic relationships interweaving with a poster 's uncontrollable emotions of this thread given the contextual overtones of the cyber-age setting.

There's one guy talking about what is to be Asian, he's talking in a language none of us can understand and really just flinging whatever shit he finds up his nose into unsuspecting and mindful person's laps, but really he's living so high up in a world of delusion that there is no gravity there and consequently he just floats away like a crack addict - hence the word 'dole' appears.

The whole thing is just bananas really.

Dats art mang.

They tried to join the AFC back in 1998 and were banned by the OFC for going behind there backs. And later on in 2000ish but it was more of a revote against the head of football (Who wanted to join Asia).

Israel were part of the AFC until 1974, then were 'conferdation-less' until 1991 when UEFA let them join them.

Australia, Israel, NZ, and Chinese Taipai were FIFA's 'what the fark do we do with them' in the 1980s

Edited by wamackie: 30/1/2015 11:16:38 AM

You think he should be sacked and lose his livelihood over that comment?:-s