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Can East Asia vote to evict the west? They can go fuck off and join the North Africans or something.
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paulbagzFC
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roary's mane wrote:Havent bought much into it.... except shatter attendance records at the confederations flagship event, have players signed to teams all over the region (from Malaysia and Thailand to India and Iran... literally errywhere), have a team who are the regions current club football champions and are favourites to win the continental championship. Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? Yeah, nothing.
You'd think Japan, China, Korea... most of the East would be bang on for keeping us around. It'd be the west whinging with butthurt at us trouncing them of late that'd be trying to push us out. The Gulf/West should split off from the East into its own federation if anything IMO. Kazakhstan, Iran, central countries to choose where they'd prefer to go. This would also be useful if the WC expanded to include more teams.
Edited by roary's mane: 28/1/2015 09:19:34 PM Farken well said lad! =d> -PB
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Someguy
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Can East Asia vote to evict the west? They can go fuck off and join the North Africans or something. To be completely honest a reshuffle of confederations would probably be ideal. Consider that the AFC, OFC and CAF have 4.5, 0.5 and 5 places respectively. Working within that basis alone and reshuffling these 3 into 3 new confederations you could split Asia and allow it to be based more on historical regions than simply making some Asian mega continent. The aim would be having Middle East, "Asia" (East Asia, OFC & the rest of Asia not in the Middle East), and Africa. The way the exact split would work could be interesting, but ultimately I would do something like: "East Asia": 3+ places Middle East: 3+ places CAF: 3+ places With North Africa joining the Middle East. i.e. Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Egypt, etc. There would also be 1 further World Cup place to be split between them by whatever method. Historically "Africa" didn't actually start until "Libya" (that is, Egypt was part of the old definition of "Asia") . Some might wonder what the benefit of this would be. Consider the teams at this time expected to qualify: "East Asia": Japan, Korea and Australia [3 given] Middle East: Iran, Egypt, Algeria [3 given] Africa: Ghana, Nigeria, Ivory Coast [3 given] With there still being one more place to be spread between the 3. North Africa historically have closer ties to the Middle East than the rest of Africa as well.
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Davstar
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paulbagzFC wrote:roary's mane wrote:Havent bought much into it.... except shatter attendance records at the confederations flagship event, have players signed to teams all over the region (from Malaysia and Thailand to India and Iran... literally errywhere), have a team who are the regions current club football champions and are favourites to win the continental championship. Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? Yeah, nothing.
You'd think Japan, China, Korea... most of the East would be bang on for keeping us around. It'd be the west whinging with butthurt at us trouncing them of late that'd be trying to push us out. The Gulf/West should split off from the East into its own federation if anything IMO. Kazakhstan, Iran, central countries to choose where they'd prefer to go. This would also be useful if the WC expanded to include more teams.
Edited by roary's mane: 28/1/2015 09:19:34 PM Farken well said lad! =d> -PB Everything but expanding the WC +1 32 teams is enough if anything drop the confederations cup host the world cup ever 3 years.
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paulbagzFC
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Iran just can't handle losing. -PB
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The influence the AFC wields (by way of corporate power) comes from predominantly 4 countries: Japan, South Korea, U.A.E and Qatar.
Why would they split this if they didn't have to?
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We da best
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Helloworld1992 wrote:Time to do something we should have done 4 yrs ago.
Bring out the brown paper bags. :-$ we tried that too..... it didn't turn out so well.
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TheSelectFew
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Surprise fucking surprise a Saudi owned network stirring up and trying to kick us out. And they wonder why no one likes them.
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johnsmith
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roary's mane wrote:Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis. It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia. Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches.
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johnsmith wrote:roary's mane wrote:Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis. It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia. Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches. weren't the Iranian players banned from taking photos with women during the tournament as well?
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little bird told me there's quite a bit to this. the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship
its all take
could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts.
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TheSelectFew
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ricecrackers wrote:little bird told me there's quite a bit to this. the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship
its all take
could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts. All you did was rehash the rumours in to a post and claimed they were true. How you havent been banned is all down to JoFFA's incompetence.
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I say we try Africa next, give it 8 years then move up to South America. One step at a time.
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Carlito
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TheSelectFew wrote:ricecrackers wrote:little bird told me there's quite a bit to this. the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship
its all take
could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts. All you did was rehash the rumours in to a post and claimed they were true. How you havent been banned is all down to JoFFA's incompetence. this. Funny how ricecrackers ,50 cal puskas and co come out when all is well.
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paulc
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johnsmith wrote:roary's mane wrote:Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis. It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia. Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches. This crossed my mind too when I was at the Iran vs UAE match. It was fantastic to see so many w.omen at the match, many looking lovely and totally exited about the match. It was a joy to see but saddened by the thought that they would never have a chance to do this in their own home country
In a resort somewhere
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paulbagzFC
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johnsmith wrote:roary's mane wrote:Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis. It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia. Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches. More like every other country in the world lol. -PB
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The guy tweeted this as well. Quote:"3+1 & "taking" a World Cup spot away from established AFC countries are some of the issues driving the movement, which isn't new." Then he re tweeted this bullshit. Quote:"Why's it laughable? Australia has twice taken a World Cup spot that would probably have gone to an Arab country" Edited by socceroofan4life: 29/1/2015 08:10:00 AM
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Socceroofan4life wrote:The guy tweeted this as well. Quote:"3+1 & "taking" a World Cup spot away from established AFC countries are some of the issues driving the movement, which isn't new." Then he re tweeted this bullshit. Quote:"Why's it laughable? Australia has twice taken a World Cup spot that would probably have gone to an Arab country" Edited by socceroofan4life: 29/1/2015 08:10:00 AM This bloke is taking butthurt levels to strange new hights
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scotty21 wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:The guy tweeted this as well. Quote:"3+1 & "taking" a World Cup spot away from established AFC countries are some of the issues driving the movement, which isn't new." Then he re tweeted this bullshit. Quote:"Why's it laughable? Australia has twice taken a World Cup spot that would probably have gone to an Arab country" Edited by socceroofan4life: 29/1/2015 08:10:00 AM This bloke is taking butthurt levels to strange new hights Lol. If a team is better than you, dont try and improve yourself, just dont let them play with you!
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roary's mane wrote:scotty21 wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:The guy tweeted this as well. Quote:"3+1 & "taking" a World Cup spot away from established AFC countries are some of the issues driving the movement, which isn't new." Then he re tweeted this bullshit. Quote:"Why's it laughable? Australia has twice taken a World Cup spot that would probably have gone to an Arab country" Edited by socceroofan4life: 29/1/2015 08:10:00 AM This bloke is taking butthurt levels to strange new hights Lol. If a team is better than you, dont try and improve yourself, just dont let them play with you! Typical Saudi mentality. It's why you never see any of their better players go to Europe because they enjoy being big fish in small ponds. Can't deal with the fact that on a global scale, they just aren't that great. Surprised they didn't lobby to FIFA when Germany beat them 8-0 at the 2002 World Cup.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Surprise fucking surprise a Saudi owned network stirring up and trying to kick us out.
And they wonder why no one likes them. Alan Mtasher is actually Aussie and based here. Foxsports had him on the show a few times at the end of the ACL and a bit of a preview for the Asian Cup. He works as a correspondent for some big Middle Eastern TV stations. We had him on Around the Bloc podcast a few times leading up to the ACL final. He has obviously heard some whisperings from his contacts in the Middle East.
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And I wouldnt be surprised it is massive butthurt from the Middle Eastern nations. They will be spewing that they are struggling to qualify for the WC now that we take a spot alongside korea and Japan.
2 East Asian teams in the Asian Cup Final too when there were only 5 in the entire tournament (Australia, China, Korea, Nth Korea, Japan) :lol: Throw in the ACL win too and they'd be pissed.
These aren't Alan's views. He will just be regurgitating what he is hearing in those circles.
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Just like the Wellington situation, there are people within FIFA that appear to have our backs on these things. Of course we're talking about FIFA here so a knife could be lodged in said back at any time. Would be appropriate though for FIFA to strip the AFC of a place if we were to be booted out of the Federation in this manner.
Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here
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ricecrackers wrote:little bird told me there's quite a bit to this. the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship
its all take
could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts. Seems legit.
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mcjules
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paladisious wrote:ricecrackers wrote:little bird told me there's quite a bit to this. the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship
its all take
could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts. Seems legit. It's amazing the news you can hear around the monkey bars.
Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here
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Not sure an Arab team would have made 2014 if you took Australia out of the AFC. It would have meant one of Iran, South Korea and Uzbekistan would have been split up with one of them joining Japan. Despite losing the playoff to Jordan, the Uzbek's form over the whole campaign was much better so I reckon it would have been them instead of us with Jordan still going on to be walloped by Uruguay.
In 2010, yeah Bahrain or the Saudis would have made it but when you consider that the best Arab team West Asia had to offer back then lost to New Zealand I'm not sure you can argue the Arabs were robbed with a straight face.
The reality is the Arab world is absolutely balls at football at the moment. There is only one good National team from Arabia and the Maghreb atm and to be brutally honest Algeria are basically French anyway, and would also be balls without that influence.
Making things easier for the Arab nations is not going to help them improve.
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I like Alan, he has been spot on and seems to know his stuff, I have no doubt that he has heard these things and is not trying to stir things up.
My reading of his tweets, he seems to be saying that is more than just West Asia, but the East Asia problem with us is the non reciprocal 3+1, which is something the FFA can change fairly easy to keep the East on side
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Post_hoc wrote:I like Alan, he has been spot on and seems to know his stuff, I have no doubt that he has heard these things and is not trying to stir things up.
My reading of his tweets, he seems to be saying that is more than just West Asia, but the East Asia problem with us is the non reciprocal 3+1, which is something the FFA can change fairly easy to keep the East on side Not so easy when a vast majority of clubs have more than 3 non-AFC foreigners on their books.
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