Alan Mtashar just tweeted that there is a growing momentum to vote Australia out of the AFC citing that Australia hasn't bought much to the relationship.

Where there's smoke...

who?

I think it would be priceless if we won the championship then got kicked out.

Havent bought much into it.... except shatter attendance records at the confederations flagship event, have players signed to teams all over the region (from Malaysia and Thailand to India and Iran... literally errywhere), have a team who are the regions current club football champions and are favourites to win the continental championship. Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? Yeah, nothing.

You'd think Japan, China, Korea... most of the East would be bang on for keeping us around. It'd be the west whinging with butthurt at us trouncing them of late that'd be trying to push us out. The Gulf/West should split off from the East into its own federation if anything IMO. Kazakhstan, Iran, central countries to choose where they'd prefer to go. This would also be useful if the WC expanded to include more teams.

Edited by roary's mane: 28/1/2015 09:19:34 PM

This.

Oceania and east asia to merge, central and west Asia likewise. 3.5 WC spots each.

This.

Oceania and east asia to merge, central and west Asia likewise. 3.5 WC spots each.

To win the Asian cup and ACL then kick us out will just make them look like a. sore losers b. a useless corrupt confederation

This.

Oceania and east asia to merge, central and west Asia likewise. 3.5 WC spots each.

This.

Oceania and east asia to merge, central and west Asia likewise. 3.5 WC spots each.

this is the most sensible thing. would reduce travel distances, would help properly categorise teams (since theres a lot of countries in asia/europe who are borderline both and have been randomly categorised into one of the other) and would be the best possible outcome for the long-term football development of oceania in particular.

Havent bought much into it.... except shatter attendance records at the confederations flagship event, have players signed to teams all over the region (from Malaysia and Thailand to India and Iran... literally errywhere), have a team who are the regions current club football champions and are favourites to win the continental championship. Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? Yeah, nothing.

You'd think Japan, China, Korea... most of the East would be bang on for keeping us around. It'd be the west whinging with butthurt at us trouncing them of late that'd be trying to push us out. The Gulf/West should split off from the East into its own federation if anything IMO. Kazakhstan, Iran, central countries to choose where they'd prefer to go. This would also be useful if the WC expanded to include more teams.

Edited by roary's mane: 28/1/2015 09:19:34 PM

Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...

Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours.

But no one gives a shit about what happens to Oceania nations. There's no people and no money there.

theres no people and money in australia?

It would be overall a negative thing for us but looking at the pros & Cons

Cons:
- No ACL
- No Asian cup
- Potentially a more difficult rout to the world cup
- Less competitive international friendlies
- Financially & promotionally better off in Asia for i.e. WC qualifiers, Asian cup qualifiers etc

Pros
- (west) Asia is f*** corrupt
- Stop the talent drain to Asia
- We will more regualrly go to the confederations cup (a better and more competitive competition then the Asia cup)
- more wins
- more highlight dvds
- higher team morale

It wouldn't be the end of the world probably better for us to stay but if we can't wouldn't be the end of the world..

Is there any basis for this discussion beyond one random tweet?

Is there any basis for this discussion beyond one random tweet?

Havent bought much into it.... except shatter attendance records at the confederations flagship event, have players signed to teams all over the region (from Malaysia and Thailand to India and Iran... literally errywhere), have a team who are the regions current club football champions and are favourites to win the continental championship. Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...? Yeah, nothing.

You'd think Japan, China, Korea... most of the East would be bang on for keeping us around. It'd be the west whinging with butthurt at us trouncing them of late that'd be trying to push us out. The Gulf/West should split off from the East into its own federation if anything IMO. Kazakhstan, Iran, central countries to choose where they'd prefer to go. This would also be useful if the WC expanded to include more teams.

Edited by roary's mane: 28/1/2015 09:19:34 PM

Can East Asia vote to evict the west? They can go fuck off and join the North Africans or something.

Farken well said lad! =d>

-PB

Time to do something we should have done 4 yrs ago.

Bring out the brown paper bags.

Pretty sure one of the high ups on the AFC is an aussie woman as well...?

I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis.

It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia.

Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches.

little bird told me there's quite a bit to this.
the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship

its all take

could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts.

All you did was rehash the rumours in to a post and claimed they were true.

How you havent been banned is all down to JoFFA's incompetence.

I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis.

It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia.

Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches.

I don't think you realise how threatening that is to the Arabs, particularly the Saudis.

It is also a threat to the Saudis and other Arab countries to see TV telecasts of the Asian Cup matches in Australia showing women being free to come to football matches. This is not a joke. Just seeing women at Aussie football matches would be confronting to their culture. There's no comparison with cartoons, but don't kid yourself that there's no negative response to seeing those things about Australia.

Then again, most East Asian countries -- Japan, Korea, Singapore, Thailand etc. women are free to attend football matches.

"3+1 & "taking" a World Cup spot away from established AFC countries are some of the issues driving the movement, which isn't new."

"Why's it laughable? Australia has twice taken a World Cup spot that would probably have gone to an Arab country"

The guy tweeted this as well.



Then he re tweeted this bullshit.



Edited by socceroofan4life: 29/1/2015 08:10:00 AM

This bloke is taking butthurt levels to strange new hights

Lol. If a team is better than you, dont try and improve yourself, just dont let them play with you!

Surprise fucking surprise a Saudi owned network stirring up and trying to kick us out.

And they wonder why no one likes them.

little bird told me there's quite a bit to this.
the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship

its all take

could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts.

Seems legit.

I like Alan, he has been spot on and seems to know his stuff, I have no doubt that he has heard these things and is not trying to stir things up.

My reading of his tweets, he seems to be saying that is more than just West Asia, but the East Asia problem with us is the non reciprocal 3+1, which is something the FFA can change fairly easy to keep the East on side

Just pull an Israel and join UEFA when the Middle Eastern nations refuse to play against us :lol:

Would be the best thing for Australian football to be honest.

Could you imagine Europa League/Champions League games in Australia [-o<

No it wouldn't. We'd never qualify for a world cup again and our club sides wouldn't qualify for the champions league.

Would be the best thing for Australian football to be honest.

Could you imagine Europa League/Champions League games in Australia [-o<

Even if he's heard from 1 or 2 butthurt representatives of agitating countries, which we have no reason to doubt, I really don't think there would be a groundswell of support for kicking us out based on the spurious reason of "Australia hasn't brought much to the relationship".

In our 9 years of AFC membership we've made the Asian Cup final twice, won the Women's Asian Cup, won the Champions League, produced the AFC player of the year in both Men's and Women's (twice) categories, produced the AFC referee of the year, won the AFC team of the year and hosted both Men's and Women's Asian Cups. Also, our league has featured players from, off the top of my head, Korea, Japan, China, Thailand, Bahrain, Indonesia, Iraq and as of today, Singapore.

Realistically, what more could we have "brought to the relationship" in less than 10 years, apart from being a bit worse at football?

Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...

Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well.

This

A problem is everything costs money. Ideally we could set up and annual Indo-Australian Cup. The winner of Indonesia domestic vs A-League winner. Just rotate the host country each year. But somebody has to pay.

Or our national teams could play in the competitions provided ](*,)

If we look at these tournaments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFF_Championship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFF_Championship
They run for a month. At best we could have an A-League representative team. However managers would flip. Its just poorly timed for us. The other solution is to shut the HAL down in December every two years.

If we look at these tournaments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFF_Championship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFF_Championship
They run for a month. At best we could have an A-League representative team. However managers would flip. Its just poorly timed for us. The other solution is to shut the HAL down in December every two years.

All you did was rehash the rumours in to a post and claimed they were true.

How you havent been banned is all down to JoFFA's incompetence.

Socceroos on the outer in Asia

AAP
January 30, 2015, 11:22 am
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The head of Asian football says there is a Gulf nations-led campaign to evict Australia from the confederation.

In curious timing just a day before the Asian Cup final between the Socceroos and South Korea in Sydney, Asian Football Confederation president Sheikh Salman Bin Ibrahim Al-Khalifa revealed not all member countries are happy with Australia's inclusion.

"Australia joined the AFC before I was elected as the president. At that time, the AFC general assembly made no resolution about re-assessing Australia's membership to determine whether it will stay or be evicted," Salman told the Dubai-based newspaper Al-Ittihad.

[size=8]"There are indications that prove that such desire exists among the confederations of west Asia to evict Australia.

"But I also know that the Arabs are not the only ones who are not convinced that Australia's membership in Asia's football is feasible."[/size]

Australia was unanimously endorsed by the AFC executive committee to join in 2006 from the Oceania Football Confederation, with FIFA approving the move.

Football Federation Australia hoped the shift would give Australia a better chance of qualifying for the World Cup and improve the A-League through exposure to regional competitions, especially the AFC Champions League.

Since then, the Socceroos have twice qualified for the World Cup and the Western Sydney Wanderers recently won the Champions League title after beating big-spending Saudi Arabian club Al Hilal in the final.

Surely a gee up.