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Scoll
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Just pull an Israel and join UEFA when the Middle Eastern nations refuse to play against us :lol:
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socceroo_06
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Scoll wrote:Just pull an Israel and join UEFA when the Middle Eastern nations refuse to play against us :lol: Would be the best thing for Australian football to be honest. Could you imagine Europa League/Champions League games in Australia [-o<
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kaufusi
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regarding the foregin players in the HAL i think it makes sense to leave the quota as is for next season, with a view to implementing a +1 Asian spot the following season.
Clubs already have players under contract for next season and it would cause a number of decent players to leave the league needlessly. Give the clubs a bit of time to plan their recruitment and retention to include an Asian player and it will be a much smoother transition.
Plus, with a documented commitment to implement the +1 rule it should satisfy any Asian chiefs getting narky about quotas.
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socceroo_06 wrote:Scoll wrote:Just pull an Israel and join UEFA when the Middle Eastern nations refuse to play against us :lol: Would be the best thing for Australian football to be honest. Could you imagine Europa League/Champions League games in Australia [-o< No it wouldn't. We'd never qualify for a world cup again and our club sides wouldn't qualify for the champions league.
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paladisious
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433 wrote:socceroo_06 wrote:Scoll wrote:Just pull an Israel and join UEFA when the Middle Eastern nations refuse to play against us :lol: Would be the best thing for Australian football to be honest. Could you imagine Europa League/Champions League games in Australia [-o< No it wouldn't. We'd never qualify for a world cup again and our club sides wouldn't qualify for the champions league. Nah m8, Euro and WC doubles every four years, and the European Champions League will become a Victory product. #facts.
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Redington Steele
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Even if he's heard from 1 or 2 butthurt representatives of agitating countries, which we have no reason to doubt, I really don't think there would be a groundswell of support for kicking us out based on the spurious reason of "Australia hasn't brought much to the relationship".
In our 9 years of AFC membership we've made the Asian Cup final twice, won the Women's Asian Cup, won the Champions League, produced the AFC player of the year in both Men's and Women's (twice) categories, produced the AFC referee of the year, won the AFC team of the year and hosted both Men's and Women's Asian Cups. Also, our league has featured players from, off the top of my head, Korea, Japan, China, Thailand, Bahrain, Indonesia, Iraq and as of today, Singapore.
Realistically, what more could we have "brought to the relationship" in less than 10 years, apart from being a bit worse at football?
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kaufusi
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From memory Mustar was implying that it was primarily jealousy and envy of our success (at the expense of another Asian country - possibly even a middle eastern country!) that was the basis for someone's desire to kick us out.
The +1 would just be something to help justify it, as would economic reasons (i think the AFC knew the size of Australia's population and economy when we joined!)
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socceroo_06 wrote:Scoll wrote:Just pull an Israel and join UEFA when the Middle Eastern nations refuse to play against us :lol: Would be the best thing for Australian football to be honest. Could you imagine Europa League/Champions League games in Australia [-o< And clubs complain already about the travel. :lol: :lol: :lol:
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!
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JonoMV
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Redington Steele wrote:Even if he's heard from 1 or 2 butthurt representatives of agitating countries, which we have no reason to doubt, I really don't think there would be a groundswell of support for kicking us out based on the spurious reason of "Australia hasn't brought much to the relationship".
In our 9 years of AFC membership we've made the Asian Cup final twice, won the Women's Asian Cup, won the Champions League, produced the AFC player of the year in both Men's and Women's (twice) categories, produced the AFC referee of the year, won the AFC team of the year and hosted both Men's and Women's Asian Cups. Also, our league has featured players from, off the top of my head, Korea, Japan, China, Thailand, Bahrain, Indonesia, Iraq and as of today, Singapore.
Realistically, what more could we have "brought to the relationship" in less than 10 years, apart from being a bit worse at football? Probably to do with $$$ not sure, what outside of money we have not done.
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TheSelectFew
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mcjules wrote:Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...
Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well. This
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aussie scott21
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TheSelectFew wrote:mcjules wrote:Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...
Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well. This A problem is everything costs money. Ideally we could set up and annual Indo-Australian Cup. The winner of Indonesia domestic vs A-League winner. Just rotate the host country each year. But somebody has to pay.
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TheSelectFew
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scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:mcjules wrote:Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...
Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well. This A problem is everything costs money. Ideally we could set up and annual Indo-Australian Cup. The winner of Indonesia domestic vs A-League winner. Just rotate the host country each year. But somebody has to pay. Or our national teams could play in the competitions provided ](*,)
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aussie scott21
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TheSelectFew wrote:scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:mcjules wrote:Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...
Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well. This A problem is everything costs money. Ideally we could set up and annual Indo-Australian Cup. The winner of Indonesia domestic vs A-League winner. Just rotate the host country each year. But somebody has to pay. Or our national teams could play in the competitions provided ](*,) If we look at these tournaments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFF_Championshiphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFF_ChampionshipThey run for a month. At best we could have an A-League representative team. However managers would flip. Its just poorly timed for us. The other solution is to shut the HAL down in December every two years.
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TheSelectFew
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scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:mcjules wrote:Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...
Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well. This A problem is everything costs money. Ideally we could set up and annual Indo-Australian Cup. The winner of Indonesia domestic vs A-League winner. Just rotate the host country each year. But somebody has to pay. Or our national teams could play in the competitions provided ](*,) If we look at these tournaments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFF_Championshiphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFF_ChampionshipThey run for a month. At best we could have an A-League representative team. However managers would flip. Its just poorly timed for us. The other solution is to shut the HAL down in December every two years. Just thow out an E side.
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aussie scott21
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No, they had over 90 000 for the Malaysia Thai game. They dont want to lose that. If we sent a team, that wasnt even our best, and kept winning every tournament this thread would actually be more legitimate.
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paladisious
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scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:mcjules wrote:Nothing new. Growing could mean 1 or 2 more people...
Saying that, we really should be doing more to strengthen our ties with our local ASEAN neighbours. I'm talking more from a diplomatic perspective but also from a pure footballing perspective too. Things like allowing the malaysian youth team play in the NPLQ was along the right track. Maybe some mini-tournaments and the like with club or rep sides as well. This A problem is everything costs money. Ideally we could set up and annual Indo-Australian Cup. The winner of Indonesia domestic vs A-League winner. Just rotate the host country each year. But somebody has to pay. Or our national teams could play in the competitions provided ](*,) If we look at these tournaments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFF_Championshiphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFF_ChampionshipThey run for a month. At best we could have an A-League representative team. However managers would flip. Its just poorly timed for us. The other solution is to shut the HAL down in December every two years. The AFF was originally formed to create a club tournament between the ASEAN countries, a vision that still hasn't been fulfilled. Maybe we'd be a mismatch at NT level, but having the next two or three A-League teams that miss out on AFC Champions League to be a part of an ASEAN Champions League running concurrently underneath the higher competition would be an awesome, awesome thing for all parties concerned.
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aussie scott21
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Rock n Roll Im pretty sure the away games would be mad. Especially in Indonesia. Pretty sure youd find meat tenderizers and stuff in there.  
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TheSelectFew wrote:ricecrackers wrote:little bird told me there's quite a bit to this.
the FFA and Australia havent really brought anything to the AFC table in terms of revenue or sponsorship
its all take
could be Australia's last Asian Cup. Enjoy the moment while its lasts. All you did was rehash the rumours in to a post and claimed they were true. How you havent been banned is all down to JoFFA's incompetence. whoops, looks like you're wrong!!! Quote:Socceroos on the outer in Asia
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The head of Asian football says there is a Gulf nations-led campaign to evict Australia from the confederation.
In curious timing just a day before the Asian Cup final between the Socceroos and South Korea in Sydney, Asian Football Confederation president Sheikh Salman Bin Ibrahim Al-Khalifa revealed not all member countries are happy with Australia's inclusion.
"Australia joined the AFC before I was elected as the president. At that time, the AFC general assembly made no resolution about re-assessing Australia's membership to determine whether it will stay or be evicted," Salman told the Dubai-based newspaper Al-Ittihad.
[size=8]"There are indications that prove that such desire exists among the confederations of west Asia to evict Australia.
"But I also know that the Arabs are not the only ones who are not convinced that Australia's membership in Asia's football is feasible."[/size]
Australia was unanimously endorsed by the AFC executive committee to join in 2006 from the Oceania Football Confederation, with FIFA approving the move.
Football Federation Australia hoped the shift would give Australia a better chance of qualifying for the World Cup and improve the A-League through exposure to regional competitions, especially the AFC Champions League.
Since then, the Socceroos have twice qualified for the World Cup and the Western Sydney Wanderers recently won the Champions League title after beating big-spending Saudi Arabian club Al Hilal in the final. https://au.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/article/-/26152694/socceroos-on-the-outer-in-asia/
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So the AFC chief came out today and said his comments were manipulated. -PB
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libel wrote:Surely a gee up. x2, just generating "Friday Rage" amongst the great unwashed leading up to Saturday's game. Nothing to see.
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JonoMV wrote:Redington Steele wrote:Even if he's heard from 1 or 2 butthurt representatives of agitating countries, which we have no reason to doubt, I really don't think there would be a groundswell of support for kicking us out based on the spurious reason of "Australia hasn't brought much to the relationship".
In our 9 years of AFC membership we've made the Asian Cup final twice, won the Women's Asian Cup, won the Champions League, produced the AFC player of the year in both Men's and Women's (twice) categories, produced the AFC referee of the year, won the AFC team of the year and hosted both Men's and Women's Asian Cups. Also, our league has featured players from, off the top of my head, Korea, Japan, China, Thailand, Bahrain, Indonesia, Iraq and as of today, Singapore.
Realistically, what more could we have "brought to the relationship" in less than 10 years, apart from being a bit worse at football? Probably to do with $$$ not sure, what outside of money we have not done. Apparently we supply the 5th highest TV revenue to the AFC.
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