I don't visit ET. So I don't know what occurs there.

I probably discuss what is in there with real people in real life scenarios off forum.

Munrubenmuz has made a lot of good contributions in other football sections of 442. I'd assume most of us enjoy what he has had to say in the sections I frequent.

I'd like to see him stay on 442.:)

He's made 3 posts since December, all in reference to his irrational dislike of me.

Would just like to congratulate Joffa on having the honour of having started 14 of the current 30 threads on the first page of Australian Football.

#qualitynotquantity

To return to the thread title, which I think should be renamed the ethics of cutting and pasting , there are some other issues.

On many other sites, there is no opportunity for viewers reading the content, to participate on a forum. At best one might be able to respond to a blog, like The Roar. The blog is often administered by the writer of the article.

Sometimes when I've posted what I think is constructive criticism of authors, Mike Tuckerman, Mike Cockerill, et al, it has not been sanctioned by whoever administers the blog. Some people don't like to face harsh truths questioning levels of expertise to pontificate in some areas.

On the other hand, on 442, a poster can have the satisfaction of an immediate comment appearing. So football articles, cut and pasted, which can often manifest with perspectives that one doesn't think about, can provide excellent stimulus for discussion on a forum like 442.

A number of journalists, who would like more response to their work, post on 442 trying to solicit readers to their article on another site. I think they probably need to post more regularly on other issues to gain a level of camaraderie from other 442 posters. To Jesse Fink's credit he used to post on 442. Fair play to him.

Also, I've seen Aidan Ormond respond to other articles that are not his own. Fair play to him.

I'm sure authors of articles would gain a level of satisfaction seeing constructive discussion about topics they've elucidated in articles posted on other sites where there is no mechanism for discussion .

I've just cut and pasted one about NNSW football from Mike Cockerill writing for Fairfax. He eloquently shed light on issues I had no knowledge about previously. As more people become aware of the predicament in NNSW one hopes it leads to a more favourable outcome for their football milieu.








Edited by Decentric: 3/3/2015 08:19:11 AM

#cutfordraupnir

Congratulations. You just took money from Fairfax to put in Haymarkets pocket. For free.

I'm not sure it can be construed as such if it appears on a forum, not the Haymarket website.

Many members cut and paste other articles on 442.

If you have a problem with the principle of this, you probably shouldn't post in response to many of these articles cut and pasted from other sites to 442 forum.

I got sick of seeing this thread title as being Joffa-specific so have changed it to reflect the actually-OK conversation that is happening in this thread.

Great stuff, PV4.=d>

I totally endorse your actions. You have my unqualified support.

The issue of cutting and pasting can be discussed, not a thread designed to vilify individuals.

I maintain many of us cut and paste so that football issues, for purposes of discussion, can be conducted on 442, Australia's most inclusive football forum.

Yet many of us are not criticised for cutting and pasting. I do it whenever I see a useful article or someone off forum sends me an interesting article .

While youre down their use your mouth.

Let me tell all of you a story, it's quite interesting so get your white cat, let it sit on your lap,stroke that pussy, cut the end off & light that Partagas cigar & swirl the XO Hennessey brandy around the snifter & sit right back & let me do the tell.

Once upon a time there was a rather lively forum called The World Game Forum which started according to all reliable reports in approximately 1998 & for a good proportion of it's life serviced the interest of ShokkaRoo's, the forum was nutured & debate was lively & controversial as it followed the trials & tribulations of the national team & the national league such as it was at the time. With the inevitiable doom & demise of the rubbish Effnik Enclave League the forum evolved & changed & a new generation of posters stepped in the breech to take up posting duties & debate with the rise of the new competition commonly referred to worldwide as the Z League & of course there were many topics of discussion to be had regarding the Socceroos.

Fast forward to the 2006 World Cup qualification process & it was approximately this time that a poster called Joffa appeared. Football opinions he had none because his knowledge of football was approximately zero which was a product of nature or nuture take your pick in regards to his country Victorian geography, his total & complete lack of a life & from reliable Melbourne posters his extremely large girth. So large in fact that one day he may have to be forklifted or bobcatted out of his house however I am digressing at this particular time.

Joffa starting posting article after article after article after article after poll after poll after poll after poll without proferring any opinion or comment on the article whatsoever. At first it was widely considered quite a curiousity that such a large amount of football & non football related content was being posted therefore for a while this posting spree was tolerated. What a mistake this was to be on our parts....

As his post count started balooning towards 6 figures the forum as a whole was feeling smothered & quite frankly quite sick of this disturbed no life individual who has zero to offer in terms of actual football discussion however the copy & paste machine had picked up to it's maximum threshhold & was unable to be stopped despite several requests from the entire forum to stop almost to the point of pleading to stop filling the front pages of both the football & non football related forums which total & utter garbage. The guy was an addicted copy & paste machine who didn't stop posting these articles from 6am to Midnight, it was getting beyond the joke. A decision had to be taken.

One day we all sat down & came to an executive order, his post count was to be trimmed so unfortunately for lardo 40,000 posts were wiped out effective immediately. The C&P machine couldn't handle it, couldn't handle any reasonable action to his daily annoyance, couldn't handle any reasonable discussion so subsequently he left the TWGF & came here & started his fucking disgraceful routine over.

Not only did/does fill the front page full of utter drivel. They made him a Moderator. :lol:

It's important that this story was told so that you don't make the same mistake. You must stop him, you must stop his post count ballooning to 7 figures, you must do whatever you can & take positive action to save yourselves. He has nothing else but Cut & Paste, perhaps you can wipe out his post count, perhaps you can help him rejoin society & engage it in a positive manner again.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Committee 33

Interesting.

Mods, let's see how serious Joffa is about facilitating football discussion through copyright infringement as Decrepit defends him as doing rather than fellating himself over his post count by snipping 60k posts from his tally.

Is this a series?

I'm hooked.

Keen for a zero post count.

-PB

I'd happily have my post count reset at zero, in fact you can use this post to ask KA to make it happen.

- Not PB

But I is so close to legitimate Legend status!!

lol, like KA gives two fucks about this forum :lol:

-PB

5) Belittle an opponent by implying he's a pa_edophile or a homosexual

Being a massive faggot has nothing to do with homosexuality.

6) Alternatively belittle an opponent by name-calling.

And yet, still zero posts addressing the actual substance of what the thread is actually about.

Salty much, manrub?

Make C&P articles follow the rule on the Whirlpool forum.

Offer an actual opinion, no-over quoting, or post gets deleted.

Except Joffa is both sides of the coin there lol.

-PB

Hey look its the 'waahhh dis forum was mean to me waah I'm gonna leave' guy.

Oh look he still hasnt left.

9) Always get the last word in. Post, post and post again until your opponent gives up replying. Then claim you've won and/or they've "died of embarrassment".

There is still no attempt to define what a reasonable number of cut and pastes is on a daily/weekly basis for any individual.

Football articles cut and pasted, seem to be a good idea on a football forum for members to discuss.

Whenever anyone posts a full article I never read it in its entirety anyway. I don't have the time. I'd rather posters just gave a summary with a link for those who have time and are keen.

Someone else posted on here that they liked the entire article posted, because they were selective as to what they found particularly interesting.

I agree.