Abbott has support in his party but not the populace

Consider me shocked that yet again the most uneducated regions of Australia vote Conservative :lol:

Sterp the berts!

Edited by Draupnir: 3/7/2016 12:04:48 AM

Consider me shocked that those who claim intellectual superiority are less aspirational and just want handouts from the richer aspirational sectors.

Are you referring to John Howards middle class welfare, that still lingers on?

Watching Morrison try and spin this as some big positive for the LNP is great :lol:

He's probably trying to slight Turnbull by sounding positive...
If Turnbull is as smart as he thinks he is, he should expect Morrison to be sharpening his blades for a leadership spill.

At the end of the day...it doesn't matter which party is in...Australia is stuck in with this huge debt....and how will we pay it off.
You can't have low taxes and a huge debt at the same time.

They can't! Australians didn't give a mandate to run the country by doing what is necessary.

It's a real joke!

Consider me shocked that yet again the most successful regions of Australia vote Conservative :lol:

Sterp the berts!

Edited by Draupnir: 3/7/2016 12:04:48 AM

Let's be honest. The Liberals are willing to provide as much welfare as the budget can sustain. Now that it can't it want to reform welfare and tax.

Labor don't do this at all.

He's dead set had a stroke over this.

Malcolm,

You assassinated a Liberal Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, who’d won an election by a huge margin.

You promised to do even better than him.

You then treated the Liberal base like dirt, smashing it with a huge super tax, refusing to speak to conservative journalists, repeatedly humiliating Abbott.

You referred to the colonial settlement of Australia as an “invasion” and even held an end-of-Ramadan meal with known Muslim bigots.

You called an early double dissolution election on the excuse of needing new laws to tackle rogue unions with a building and construction commission, but with the true aim of getting rid of crossbench oppositionists in the Senate.

You went to the election with basically only one policy to sell - a pathetic 10-year promise to cut company tax.

And now look. Almost everything turned to ruin.

You have lost so many seats that you could even be forced into minority government, if pre-polling and Western Australia go against you.

You have, if anything, lost ground in the Senate, which will block most of your plans.

You will be unable to get the numbers to get your building and construction commission through in any joint sitting of parliament.

You have asked for no mandate for real reform, and will have almost no power to undertake any.

Your popularity, already plummeting, will fall further.

There is no way you can seriously claim that this result is better than anything Abbott could have achieved.

Abbott picked up seven seats at the 2010 election and another 15 in the 2013 election. You have lost between 10 and 15 seats and dumped key Liberal values in doing so.

You have been a disaster. You betrayed Tony Abbott and then led the party to humiliation, stripped of both values and honour.

Resign.

Sam Dastayari inviting Pauline for a "Halal Snack Pack"....:lol:



Edited by socawho: 2/7/2016 11:02:42 PM

Yes lets be honest, Howard missed an opportunity to structurally reform for the future, Howard knew we had an ageing population and knew reform was needed re "housing affordability, healthcare, superannuation, taxation, education, infrastructure and the environment and chose to stick their head in the sand....

Yes lets be honest, Howard missed an opportunity to structurally reform for the future, Howard knew we had an ageing population and knew reform was needed re "housing affordability, healthcare, superannuation, taxation, education, infrastructure and the environment and chose to stick their head in the sand....

Yes lets be honest, Howard missed an opportunity to structurally reform for the future, Howard knew we had an ageing population and knew reform was needed re "housing affordability, healthcare, superannuation, taxation, education, infrastructure and the environment and chose to stick their head in the sand....

"reform" in Labor speak ALWAYS means tax those few who pay nearly all the taxes.

The elephant in the room is half of all Australia's workers pay no income tax. 73% of all income tax comes from just 20% of workers, 50% comes from just 10%. Labor will aim to increase the tax burden on those few even further until 4 out 5 simply live with their hand out.

The non-income tax payers will claim they pay GST but when its added up it amounts to 2/5th of sweet FA.

Once the tax is received, most is spent on welfare, leaving bugger all for infrastructure and education.

Non-taxpayers expect a pension, and eye off the super of people who have paid taxes and give up income for 45 years so that they can pay their own way.

Non-tax payers want healthcare and education, paid for the "by govment". They are totally oblivious to exactly where "the govmnet" gets the money to do that.

Yet its the non-taxpayers that are celebrated and the tax-payers vilified.

So many lads hurting today. I've been there before. Let it all out, it's very cathartic.

"reform" in Labor speak ALWAYS means tax those few who pay nearly all the taxes.

The elephant in the room is half of all Australia's workers pay no income tax. 73% of all income tax comes from just 20% of workers, 50% comes from just 10%. Labor will aim to increase the tax burden on those few even further until 4 out 5 simply live with their hand out.

The non-income tax payers will claim they pay GST but when its added up it amounts to 2/5th of sweet FA.

Once the tax is received, most is spent on welfare, leaving bugger all for infrastructure and education.

Non-taxpayers expect a pension, and eye off the super of people who have paid taxes and give up income for 45 years so that they can pay their own way.

Non-tax payers want healthcare and education, paid for the "by govment". They are totally oblivious to exactly where "the govmnet" gets the money to do that.

Yet its the non-taxpayers that are celebrated and the tax-payers vilified.

Howard did more than enough for Australia's future when he handed over a $40 Billion dollar annual surplus to the next administration.

In fact, Howard was the last GOOD Government Australia ever had which actually achieved great results for the country and the battlers.

Everyone since have been total deadbeats apart from Abbott!

Despite us being lumbered with Lefty loser Turnbull for now, you need to keep in mind that the Libs have actually won, albeit an extremely slender victory.

It therefore can still eventually form Government.

That means, their fortunes lay in their own hands. This could be a disaster, or a watershed moment which may usher in Abbott as the next Howardesce style statesman ruling this country for the next 10 off years.

I wonder how long Pauline Hanson will last this time around?

Last time she targeted non-assimilating immigrants (not really, shes not smart enough to look beyond a book's cover), this time the majority of Australia has become Asian, Indian and muslims

and it will only get worse! :-#