The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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rusty wrote:
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So many lads hurting today. I've been there before. Let it all out, it's very cathartic.


I could've copped a Labor government and its policies (neg gearing will be interesting) but for me when Bill Shorten spoke about a "new way of politics " I didn't think it meant concocting an outright lie and running a faux referendum on it. To me this portrays not only Bill Shorten but the entire Labor party as corrupt, and a new low for Australian politics. The Libs will no doubt learn from this and will run a similar vile deceitful scare campaign in the next election, ad infinitum. Seriously these are the kinds of campaigning you expect in places like Mexico and Venezuela, not a civilised country like Australia.

I think also due to the 24/7 news cycle, trivialisation of poliical issues on social media and the medias eagneerness to destabilise incumbent governments we are likely to see a revolving door of new government every three years.
Come here rusty


Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
rusty wrote:
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So many lads hurting today. I've been there before. Let it all out, it's very cathartic.


I could've copped a Labor government and its policies (neg gearing will be interesting) but for me when Bill Shorten spoke about a "new way of politics " I didn't think it meant concocting an outright lie and running a faux referendum on it. To me this portrays not only Bill Shorten but the entire Labor party as corrupt, and a new low for Australian politics. The Libs will no doubt learn from this and will run a similar vile deceitful scare campaign in the next election, ad infinitum. Seriously these are the kinds of campaigning you expect in places like Mexico and Venezuela, not a civilised country like Australia.

I think also due to the 24/7 news cycle, trivialisation of poliical issues on social media and the medias eagneerness to destabilise incumbent governments we are likely to see a revolving door of new government every three years.
Come here rusty


Liberals are not that way inclined mate! :lol:
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conservatives melting down

get me some popcorn
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grazorblade wrote:
conservatives melting down

get me some popcorn


We need Abbott to come in.
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rusty wrote:
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For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


How is the budget emergency?
Did the Libs stop the boats?
How exactly are the Libs better economic managers, by not passing their budgets?
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Firstly credit to Shorten to getting where they are now from where they were. Not only did labor lead the narrative on policies for the past year now but Shorten campaigned like a man possessed, he was everywhere - people forums, town hall meetings, interview after interview, hell even after debates he'd hang around and answer more questions from the public, he really didn't shy away from anything.

Now compare that to Turnbull's campaign, he dodged forums, journalists, interviews and for once I agree with Bolt he went to the election with the ten year company tax cuts and that was pretty much it, while mumbling about what a exciting time to be alive, innovation, stability, waffle waffle waffle without ever going into genuine specifics.

Also lol at Rusty, a few others in this thread & the coalition having a mighty sulk about the medicare scare campaign, seriously? After the many ridiculous scare campaigns that the coalition have run over the past six years, you guys are going to chuck a tanty when one sticks against you guys. It's hardly surprising the public were concerned either after the 2014 budget or Turnbull lying on election eve that doctor prices won't go up if he's elected when GP's have already notified patients that they will rise due to the coalitions freeze.

If anything more should've been made of the constant broken promises, lies, removal of a PM, increasing the debt, Parakeela, constant references of corruption, Sinodinos, Brough, allegations of corruption within the Immigration Department, travel rorts, using royal commissions for political gain, I mean the list goes on, the election really could've gotten a lot dirtier if the ALP dug their heals in but instead they focused more on their policies.

Lastly the highlight of last night for me was watching Alan Jones beat down of McGrath, poor bloke was almost in tears. :lol:

Now to sit back and watch the Libs implode.
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As a liberal voter I can't help but grin at the chaos this has caused.

Senate balloting reforms have backfired, leadership change has backfired, double dissolution has backfired...

Funny stuff
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:
Firstly credit to Shorten to getting where they are now from where they were. Not only did labor lead the narrative on policies for the past year now but Shorten campaigned like a man possessed, he was everywhere - people forums, town hall meetings, interview after interview, hell even after debates he'd hang around and answer more questions from the public, he really didn't shy away from anything.

Now compare that to Turnbull's campaign, he dodged forums, journalists, interviews and for once I agree with Bolt he went to the election with the ten year company tax cuts and that was pretty much it, while mumbling about what a exciting time to be alive, innovation, stability, waffle waffle waffle without ever going into genuine specifics.

Also lol at Rusty, a few others in this thread & the coalition having a mighty sulk about the medicare scare campaign, seriously? After the many ridiculous scare campaigns that the coalition have run over the past six years, you guys are going to chuck a tanty when one sticks against you guys. It's hardly surprising the public were concerned either after the 2014 budget or Turnbull lying on election eve that doctor prices won't go up if he's elected when GP's have already notified patients that they will rise due to the coalitions freeze.

If anything more should've been made of the constant broken promises, lies, removal of a PM, increasing the debt, Parakeela, constant references of corruption, Sinodinos, Brough, allegations of corruption within the Immigration Department, travel rorts, using royal commissions for political gain, I mean the list goes on, the election really could've gotten a lot dirtier if the ALP dug their heals in but instead they focused more on their policies.

Lastly the highlight of last night for me was watching Alan Jones beat down of McGrath, poor bloke was almost in tears. :lol:

Now to sit back and watch the Libs implode.

Politicians are all the same...Labor, Liberals, Greens, Xenophon,etc...in it for themselves and say whatever it takes to get in.
You give the impression that its only the Libs that come across as dishonest and Labor as honest.
Let me remind you Howard said there was going to be no GST and he put it in, and Gillard said no Carbon Tax and she tried to shove that through...but you're bias is oblivious to this it seems.
Shorten did a better sell...theres no denying it...but I'd expect that from someone who is a career politician, compared to someone who has been in a few different careers...outside of politics.
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So we won't know the result until Tuesday?

Hung parliament a possibility? Not informed on what a hung parliament means for us? Bigger shitfight?
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BETHFC wrote:
So we won't know the result until Tuesday?

Hung parliament a possibility? Not informed on what a hung parliament means for us? Bigger shitfight?

I think so.
If theres another Hung parliament the consumer confidence will absolutely plummet in the economy.
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Consider me shocked that yet again the most uneducated regions of Australia vote Conservative :lol:



Not every place in the world is a pretentious inner city urban hipster that wants gay marriage and carbon taxes


Those damned knowledge elites and bleeding hearts with their leftist conspiracies


Their philosophies are perfect within the confines of the Ivory Towers of Universities and lecture rooms.

Its the real world where it all falls apart.

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Kinda disappointed the pirate party didn't get up.


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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


TIL the ALP is the first political party to successfully use a lie to get what they need.

And yet you get so upset when the Liberals are caught out lying. It just shows that you are a person of weak character.
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Joffa wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


How is the budget emergency? Perspective. Continued mismanagement of of government expenditure and an aging population will lead to a desperate situation in the years to come.
Did the Libs stop the boats? Really? Yes. I would say this is probably the only promise the Libs kept since last election.
How exactly are the Libs better economic managers, by not passing their budgets? Economics seams to be a subject you know little about. Not spending more you earn is good economic management. When was the last time Labor produced a surplus?

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TheSelectFew wrote:
Kinda disappointed the pirate party didn't get up.

What abut the Sex Party :(
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SocaWho wrote:
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Kinda disappointed the pirate party didn't get up.

What abut the Sex Party :(


Nah im being legit though. They had some good policies as did the science party. Anyone with forward thinking on tech and innovation. Something forward thinking on sustainability. The greens are fucking rubbish and I hate people who associate them as somehow progressive.

Thats why you got 1 seat. Nick Xenophon got more seats you twats.


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vanlassen wrote:
Joffa wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


How is the budget emergency? Perspective. Continued mismanagement of of government expenditure and an aging population will lead to a desperate situation in the years to come.
Did the Libs stop the boats? Really? Yes. I would say this is probably the only promise the Libs kept since last election.
How exactly are the Libs better economic managers, by not passing their budgets? Economics seams to be a subject you know little about. Not spending more you earn is good economic management. When was the last time Labor produced a surplus?

Edited by vanlassen: 3/7/2016 09:30:37 PM


Who is to say they aren't looking to privatise medicare?
They trying to privatise higher ed. Some said that would never happen.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
vanlassen wrote:
Joffa wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


How is the budget emergency? Perspective. Continued mismanagement of of government expenditure and an aging population will lead to a desperate situation in the years to come.
Did the Libs stop the boats? Really? Yes. I would say this is probably the only promise the Libs kept since last election.
How exactly are the Libs better economic managers, by not passing their budgets? Economics seams to be a subject you know little about. Not spending more you earn is good economic management. When was the last time Labor produced a surplus?

Edited by vanlassen: 3/7/2016 09:30:37 PM



Who is to say they aren't looking to privatise medicare? The head of Medicare.
They trying to privatise higher ed. Some said that would never happen. I don't see this as a bad thing in part. There are alot of useless degrees and even more useless subjects that are tax-payer subsidised. I probably shouldn't complain. I will need to head back to Uni in the next few years if I want to keep my job.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Kinda disappointed the pirate party didn't get up.

What abut the Sex Party :(


Nah im being legit though. They had some good policies as did the science party. Anyone with forward thinking on tech and innovation. Something forward thinking on sustainability. The greens are fucking rubbish and I hate people who associate them as somehow progressive.

Thats why you got 1 seat. Nick Xenophon got more seats you twats.

Any party that is extreme (both left / right) Greens, Pauline Hanson etc, will try to sell themselves as being mainstream.
You're right about the Greens though...they really aren't really Progressive. They try to build themselves on Populist agendas, i.e. such as the environment...but deep down they don't really give a shit about the environment but are only after the votes of those WHO actually care about the environment.
Whereas Pauline will vy again for the White Australia vote as well the elder pensioners who yearn for the White Australia Policy days.


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vanlassen wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


TIL the ALP is the first political party to successfully use a lie to get what they need.

And yet you get so upset when the Liberals are caught out lying. It just shows that you are a person of weak character.


Can't say I ever remember being upset about a lie from the Liberals, mainly because they're politicians and so it comes with the territory and that goes for both sides. The reaction to a lie is always the best part.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
vanlassen wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


TIL the ALP is the first political party to successfully use a lie to get what they need.

And yet you get so upset when the Liberals are caught out lying. It just shows that you are a person of weak character.


Can't say I ever remember being upset about a lie from the Liberals, mainly because they're politicians and so it comes with the territory and that goes for both sides. The reaction to a lie is always the best part.

They're all the same:^o
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SocaWho wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
vanlassen wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


TIL the ALP is the first political party to successfully use a lie to get what they need.

And yet you get so upset when the Liberals are caught out lying. It just shows that you are a person of weak character.


Can't say I ever remember being upset about a lie from the Liberals, mainly because they're politicians and so it comes with the territory and that goes for both sides. The reaction to a lie is always the best part.

They're all the same:^o


Yep, like I said I more enjoy the reaction from one side when the other does something they've done plenty of times before. It really is schoolyard bullshit :lol:
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
vanlassen wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
rusty wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


TIL the ALP is the first political party to successfully use a lie to get what they need.

And yet you get so upset when the Liberals are caught out lying. It just shows that you are a person of weak character.


Can't say I ever remember being upset about a lie from the Liberals, mainly because they're politicians and so it comes with the territory and that goes for both sides. The reaction to a lie is always the best part.

They're all the same:^o


Yep, like I said I more enjoy the reaction from one side when the other does something they've done plenty of times before. It really is schoolyard bullshit :lol:

I mean just look at Sam Dastayari...he looks like he's still in High School :lol:
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SocaWho wrote:
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Kinda disappointed the pirate party didn't get up.

What abut the Sex Party :(


Nah im being legit though. They had some good policies as did the science party. Anyone with forward thinking on tech and innovation. Something forward thinking on sustainability. The greens are fucking rubbish and I hate people who associate them as somehow progressive.

Thats why you got 1 seat. Nick Xenophon got more seats you twats.

Any party that is extreme (both left / right) Greens, Pauline Hanson etc, will try to sell themselves as being mainstream.
You're right about the Greens though...they really aren't really Progressive. They try to build themselves on Populist agendas, i.e. such as the environment...but deep down they don't really give a shit about the environment but are only after the votes of those WHO actually care about the environment.
Whereas Pauline will vy again for the White Australia vote as well the elder pensioners who yearn for the White Australia Policy days.


Edited by socawho: 3/7/2016 10:36:55 PM


All of this.


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vanlassen wrote:
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For me the best and funniest part of this whole election is the fucking whinging about the scare campaign from Labor :lol: Cry me a fucking river.


Laughing doesn't change the fact it was a grubby , snide, villanous tactic.


And successful as hell.


Is that your defence, that because the lie was successful, it was justified ?
That Labor can't win government by telling the truth?


How is the budget emergency? Perspective. Continued mismanagement of of government expenditure and an aging population will lead to a desperate situation in the years to come.
Did the Libs stop the boats? Really? Yes. I would say this is probably the only promise the Libs kept since last election.
How exactly are the Libs better economic managers, by not passing their budgets? Economics seams to be a subject you know little about. Not spending more you earn is good economic management. When was the last time Labor produced a surplus?

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Who is to say they aren't looking to privatise medicare? The head of Medicare.
They trying to privatise higher ed. Some said that would never happen. I don't see this as a bad thing in part. There are alot of useless degrees and even more useless subjects that are tax-payer subsidised. I probably shouldn't complain. I will need to head back to Uni in the next few years if I want to keep my job.


He didn't. He claimed that medicare needed a shake up but said that that didnt mean it was going to be privatised.

If that isnt code for medicare privatisation then I don't know what is.

As for the education business the current model isn't in need of fixing. If someone wants to study gender descrimination amongst fosh of south west africa they should be entitle to do so. It provides jobs and if there are enough students enrolling for it then there is a demand.

Nevertheless you will still have to pay for it through your taxes.


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BETHFC wrote:
So we won't know the result until Tuesday?

Hung parliament a possibility? Not informed on what a hung parliament means for us? Bigger shitfight?


Yeah won't know for weeks maybe lol.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
So we won't know the result until Tuesday?

Hung parliament a possibility? Not informed on what a hung parliament means for us? Bigger shitfight?


Yeah won't know for weeks maybe lol.

-PB

If only Slim Dusty was still alive..he'd make a followup song called the "Election with no Outcome" to the "Pub with no beer.":roll:
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paulbagzFC wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
So we won't know the result until Tuesday?

Hung parliament a possibility? Not informed on what a hung parliament means for us? Bigger shitfight?


Yeah won't know for weeks maybe lol.

-PB


Still weeks until I am proven right :(
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SocaWho wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
So we won't know the result until Tuesday?

Hung parliament a possibility? Not informed on what a hung parliament means for us? Bigger shitfight?


Yeah won't know for weeks maybe lol.

-PB

If only Slim Dusty was still alive..he'd make a followup song called the "Election with no Outcome" to the "Pub with no beer.":roll:


=d> =d> =d> Did laugh




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Wow! What a weekend.

Highlights for me:

- Nikolic getting tossed out
- Mirabella failing to get back in
- Dutton potentially getting tossed out
- My seat (Wills) moving from being safe ALP to almost marginal
- Bolt's blog and TV meltdown
- Hanson's halal snack pack offer
- and most of all...... the absolute meltdown on this forum!

Thank you all, this forum was a most entertaining read this Monday morning.
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