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Benjamin wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:To be fair credit should be given where credit is due.
Called it early and called it correctly. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. but that stop clock said, he will leave (this chat site) if he was wrong....everyone had a chance to call he buff , and no body did it
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Benjamin wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:To be fair credit should be given where credit is due.
Called it early and called it correctly. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Munrubenmuz wrote:To be fair credit should be given where credit is due.
Called it early and called it correctly. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.
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adrtho
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ricecrackers wrote:Meanwhile riots have just broken out in London and the BBC arent even covering it. That's what happens when you set false expectations. it's on BBC ,it's on 10pm news and other local BBC news programs...BBC in Australia, is BBC world News, i'm not sure how big and world interesting some local protests is ? to you it is i guess
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melbourne_terrace wrote:adrtho wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:adrtho wrote:quickflick wrote:What impact will the Tory victory have on the prospect of an EU referendum?
I'm given to understand such a thing would be fool-hardy because the UK stands to lose far more than it would gain if they left the EU. It would be a different story if they had never joined the EU in the first place (like say Norway). But leaving now that they've joined would have negative economic consequences. their will be EU referendum in UK...Cameron will use this EU referendum in UK, to try and move EU on many laws, and them Cameron will go back to UK people before EU referendum, and say we (UK) have got what we want, and the UK should stay in EU EU referendum in UK will be very close call...The Scot will vote to stay in EU, but there only 5 million of them..UKIP got a lot of votes in Labour zones , i think UK could vote out of EU EU is really fuck, they have no growth for 8 years , they missed (fucked up) what should have been a great advantages 10 years ago, when 200 million cheap educated workers from Eastern Europe came on line... Scotland, Wales and (maybe) NI want to stay and are calling for a required majority in each nation for the UK to leave. If England tries to force the UK out of the EU then Scotland will immediately demand another independence referendum and likely win. The Tories might have the overall majority but they have no mandate in Scotland and the electorate are pissed off at Westminster at the lack of action following the "No" vote. the problem for Scotland. is they have this general belief (push by SNP) Scotland will gain automatic acceptance into the EU, the fact is a independent Scotland (after last referendum) would have seen there application to join EU veto by number of countries. Spain 100%...Scotland independent would just open a can of worms for every big country in the EU, all the unique regional zones with in the Big EU countries , would believe they have a chance of independent country with in the big framework of the EU Now, if Scotland has some how manged to get over this giant veto hurdle, The Scotland would had zero negotiation power with the EU, Scotland would have to accept virtually everything EU wants, Fast track Schengen zone acceptance, and economic policies that lead to Euro doller...Schengen zone acceptance, would mean a Scottish English passport border , EU would not let Scotland do the same as Ireland Now, if Uk votes out of EU, then it might be easier for Scotland to join the EU, but you will still end up with a passport boarder These are fair points, in fact they are all criticisms I had of the "Yes" Campaigns White paper. I'd rather see Scotland adopt the Euro, despite its flaws, as keeping the pound whilst England sets monetary policy is ridiculous and the EU won't take no for an answer. As for the schengen zone vs common travel area, it was never made clear but it would be a tough sell either way. I think that in order to keep a somewhat good relationship with the UK, there would be an avenue to keep the status quote. Isolating communities benefits no one. And yes, the Spanish government are losing their mind trying to shut down independence campaigns from the Basque and Catelonians. Maybe they could come to an agreement where Scotland publicly supports the return of Gibraltar to Spain.theres always possibilities the picture you paint of Scotland using something like Gibraltar dispute as a bargaining chip, is a very really scenario, along with many other Anti-English and Anti-American move, It's why no Australian Government will ever support an independent Scotland with the way SNP is run today..When Australian PM Tony Abbott open he mouth said "independent Scotland is not a benefit to the world" Abbott stated exactly what the Australian government thinks, and when I say Australian government, I don't mean the the political government in power today or tomorrow, I mean all the men and women who work in the various Australian government departments and agencies..The truth is, Australia would work actively , to undermined Scottish independence in it's present state independent Scotland doesn't have to be view as bad for Australia, It could be view as neutral to Australia, as you have developed Nation involved, that not only democratic , but has the same legal system as Australia...But SNP almost believe they have a right to do what ever they want :lol: Edited by adrtho: 11/5/2015 12:40:55 AM
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:I'd have thought people would have learned how to avoid getting into shitfights with ricecrackers, apparently not. Always back the winning horse. -PB
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so much sour grapes
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:To be fair credit should be given where credit is due.
Called it early and called it correctly. He did and fair play to him. But he has carried on like a knob as he usually does. That would be the issue.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:To be fair credit should be given where credit is due.
Called it early and called it correctly. He did and fair play to him. But he has carried on like a knob as he usually does.
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To be fair credit should be given where credit is due. Called it early and called it correctly.
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mcjules wrote:ricecrackers wrote:mcjules wrote:Surely this thread is ricecrackers mkIII's magnum opus. I'm sorry I won't be alive many many years in the future when his obituary reads Quote:As a young child at school, "ricecrackers" was able accurately predict the 2015 UK general election devastating proclaimed experts "biscuitman" and "melbourne_terrace" who have devoted their lives to the politics of the United Kingdom and analysing relevant polls.
The ensuing posts were a masterclass of ad hominem attacks and petty name calling that have been the bible of keyboard warriors ever since.
Despite being a "hero of the school yard" for a few fleeting moments, it's unfortunate that despite such potential he could not find any use for these skills in the real world and became totally absorbed into his online persona... Edited by mcjules: 10/5/2015 04:41:04 PM you're trying too hard Wrote it very quickly on a lazy Sunday afternoon. I think I put in an appropriate amount of effort and I enjoyed writing it. One post compared to pages of troll posts. I and everyone else here knows who's "trying too hard" ;) you speak for everybody do you?
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ricecrackers wrote:mcjules wrote:Surely this thread is ricecrackers mkIII's magnum opus. I'm sorry I won't be alive many many years in the future when his obituary reads Quote:As a young child at school, "ricecrackers" was able accurately predict the 2015 UK general election devastating proclaimed experts "biscuitman" and "melbourne_terrace" who have devoted their lives to the politics of the United Kingdom and analysing relevant polls.
The ensuing posts were a masterclass of ad hominem attacks and petty name calling that have been the bible of keyboard warriors ever since.
Despite being a "hero of the school yard" for a few fleeting moments, it's unfortunate that despite such potential he could not find any use for these skills in the real world and became totally absorbed into his online persona... Edited by mcjules: 10/5/2015 04:41:04 PM you're trying too hard Wrote it very quickly on a lazy Sunday afternoon. I think I put in an appropriate amount of effort and I enjoyed writing it. One post compared to pages of troll posts. I and everyone else here knows who's "trying too hard" ;)
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mcjules wrote:Surely this thread is ricecrackers mkIII's magnum opus. I'm sorry I won't be alive many many years in the future when his obituary reads Quote:As a young child at school, "ricecrackers" was able accurately predict the 2015 UK general election devastating proclaimed experts "biscuitman" and "melbourne_terrace" who have devoted their lives to the politics of the United Kingdom and analysing relevant polls.
The ensuing posts were a masterclass of ad hominem attacks and petty name calling that have been the bible of keyboard warriors ever since.
Despite being a "hero of the school yard" for a few fleeting moments, it's unfortunate that despite such potential he could not find any use for these skills in the real world and became totally absorbed into his online persona... Edited by mcjules: 10/5/2015 04:41:04 PM you're trying too hard
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Surely this thread is ricecrackers mkIII's magnum opus. I'm sorry I won't be alive many many years in the future when his obituary reads Quote:As a young child at school, "ricecrackers" was able accurately predict the 2015 UK general election devastating proclaimed experts "biscuitman" and "melbourne_terrace" who have devoted their lives to the politics of the United Kingdom and analysing relevant polls.
The ensuing posts were a masterclass of ad hominem attacks and petty name calling that have been the bible of keyboard warriors ever since.
Despite being a "hero of the school yard" for a few fleeting moments, it's unfortunate that despite such potential he could not find any use for these skills in the real world and became totally absorbed into his online persona... Edited by mcjules: 10/5/2015 04:41:04 PM
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ricecrackers wrote:I've made no definitive statement about the size of the riots. Because you never have an opinion for fear of it being wrong lol. -PB
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Go ricey go :lol:
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I've made no definitive statement about the size of the riots.
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Its ricecrackers . he knows everything
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ricecrackers wrote:paladisious wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paladisious wrote:Currently 2nd story on the UK page after post election Ministerial position reshuffles. nothing on the television eventually they'll be forced to cover it, but why so late to the game Are you watching live? If it's on the site surely it's seconds away from having a story filed on TV. It's surely on the ticker. Looks pretty small tbh. Are you there? How could you possibly know that? How could you know it's not? -PB
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paladisious wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paladisious wrote:Currently 2nd story on the UK page after post election Ministerial position reshuffles. nothing on the television eventually they'll be forced to cover it, but why so late to the game Are you watching live? If it's on the site surely it's seconds away from having a story filed on TV. It's surely on the ticker. Looks pretty small tbh. Are you there? How could you possibly know that?
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ricecrackers wrote:paladisious wrote:Currently 2nd story on the UK page after post election Ministerial position reshuffles. nothing on the television eventually they'll be forced to cover it, but why so late to the game Are you watching live? If it's on the site surely it's seconds away from having a story filed on TV. It's surely on the ticker. Looks pretty small tbh.
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adrtho wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:adrtho wrote:quickflick wrote:What impact will the Tory victory have on the prospect of an EU referendum?
I'm given to understand such a thing would be fool-hardy because the UK stands to lose far more than it would gain if they left the EU. It would be a different story if they had never joined the EU in the first place (like say Norway). But leaving now that they've joined would have negative economic consequences. their will be EU referendum in UK...Cameron will use this EU referendum in UK, to try and move EU on many laws, and them Cameron will go back to UK people before EU referendum, and say we (UK) have got what we want, and the UK should stay in EU EU referendum in UK will be very close call...The Scot will vote to stay in EU, but there only 5 million of them..UKIP got a lot of votes in Labour zones , i think UK could vote out of EU EU is really fuck, they have no growth for 8 years , they missed (fucked up) what should have been a great advantages 10 years ago, when 200 million cheap educated workers from Eastern Europe came on line... Scotland, Wales and (maybe) NI want to stay and are calling for a required majority in each nation for the UK to leave. If England tries to force the UK out of the EU then Scotland will immediately demand another independence referendum and likely win. The Tories might have the overall majority but they have no mandate in Scotland and the electorate are pissed off at Westminster at the lack of action following the "No" vote. the problem for Scotland. is they have this general belief (push by SNP) Scotland will gain automatic acceptance into the EU, the fact is a independent Scotland (after last referendum) would have seen there application to join EU veto by number of countries. Spain 100%...Scotland independent would just open a can of worms for every big country in the EU, all the unique regional zones with in the Big EU countries , would believe they have a chance of independent country with in the big framework of the EU Now, if Scotland has some how manged to get over this giant veto hurdle, The Scotland would had zero negotiation power with the EU, Scotland would have to accept virtually everything EU wants, Fast track Schengen zone acceptance, and economic policies that lead to Euro doller...Schengen zone acceptance, would mean a Scottish English passport border , EU would not let Scotland do the same as Ireland Now, if Uk votes out of EU, then it might be easier for Scotland to join the EU, but you will still end up with a passport boarder These are fair points, in fact they are all criticisms I had of the "Yes" Campaigns White paper. I'd rather see Scotland adopt the Euro, despite its flaws, as keeping the pound whilst England sets monetary policy is ridiculous and the EU won't take no for an answer. As for the schengen zone vs common travel area, it was never made clear but it would be a tough sell either way. I think that in order to keep a somewhat good relationship with the UK, there would be an avenue to keep the status quote. Isolating communities benefits no one. And yes, the Spanish government are losing their mind trying to shut down independence campaigns from the Basque and Catelonians. Maybe they could come to an agreement where Scotland publicly supports the return of Gibraltar to Spain.theres always possibilities
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ricecrackers wrote:more coverage on social media than actual accredited media You're welcome to join us in the 21st century any time.
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paladisious wrote:Currently 2nd story on the UK page after post election Ministerial position reshuffles. nothing on the television eventually they'll be forced to cover it, but why so late to the game
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Currently 2nd story on the UK page after post election Ministerial position reshuffles.
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 look at the masked hooded ones, you know they're up to no good more coverage on social media than actual accredited media Edited by ricecrackers: 10/5/2015 12:00:06 PM
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Meanwhile riots have just broken out in London and the BBC arent even covering it. That's what happens when you set false expectations.
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if countries like Australia and USA sign free trade agreements with the EU, and all the other free trade agreements Australia and USA sign with other countries , then one of UK major benefits of being part of a EU ( trade block) disappears
The UK has seen Australia, and Canada consistently grown their economies at very fast rate, and sign free trade agreements all around the world
The UK wants to take back control from EU on many things
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melbourne_terrace wrote:adrtho wrote:quickflick wrote:What impact will the Tory victory have on the prospect of an EU referendum?
I'm given to understand such a thing would be fool-hardy because the UK stands to lose far more than it would gain if they left the EU. It would be a different story if they had never joined the EU in the first place (like say Norway). But leaving now that they've joined would have negative economic consequences. their will be EU referendum in UK...Cameron will use this EU referendum in UK, to try and move EU on many laws, and them Cameron will go back to UK people before EU referendum, and say we (UK) have got what we want, and the UK should stay in EU EU referendum in UK will be very close call...The Scot will vote to stay in EU, but there only 5 million of them..UKIP got a lot of votes in Labour zones , i think UK could vote out of EU EU is really fuck, they have no growth for 8 years , they missed (fucked up) what should have been a great advantages 10 years ago, when 200 million cheap educated workers from Eastern Europe came on line... Scotland, Wales and (maybe) NI want to stay and are calling for a required majority in each nation for the UK to leave. If England tries to force the UK out of the EU then Scotland will immediately demand another independence referendum and likely win. The Tories might have the overall majority but they have no mandate in Scotland and the electorate are pissed off at Westminster at the lack of action following the "No" vote. the problem for Scotland. is they have this general belief (push by SNP) Scotland will gain automatic acceptance into the EU, the fact is a independent Scotland (after last referendum) would have seen there application to join EU veto by number of countries. Spain 100%...Scotland independent would just open a can of worms for every big country in the EU, all the unique regional zones with in the Big EU countries , would believe they have a chance of independent country with in the big framework of the EU Now, if Scotland has some how manged to get over this giant veto hurdle, The Scotland would had zero negotiation power with the EU, Scotland would have to accept virtually everything EU wants, Fast track Schengen zone acceptance, and economic policies that lead to Euro doller...Schengen zone acceptance, would mean a Scottish English passport border , EU would not let Scotland do the same as Ireland Now, if Uk votes out of EU, then it might be easier for Scotland to join the EU, but you will still end up with a passport boarder
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