All the Greek finances, loans etc, are in Euro. If they exit and revert to their own currency, which will immediately devalue, those loans will increase spectacularly.

There will be huge knock on effects if the Greeks leave. Massive inflation for one.

The Brits, having their own currency, have a much (relative to the Greeks) easier transition.

I think many in Greece are watching the BREXIT with great interest.

The EU is very much on the nose in Greece as well, because they won't allow Quantitative Easing.

Greece has been cuffed and shackled. Powder keg that will explode in Europe's face because Greeks don't like to be shackled.

Until the Greeks start burning Embassies down. One thing the EU can't do is f@#k with the Greeks.

ISIL are pussy cats when compared us.

Nothing Germam, Austrian, Swedish, or Dutch will be left standing.

Edited by Aikhme: 25/6/2016 10:26:32 PM

Do you believe that anyone that disagrees with you has Anti intellectual traits?

Quite a condescending term to use..don't you think?

you know not everyone can be an intellect perhaps like yourself...people have to scrap for a living, ie do a trade or drive a truck just to make ends meet.

Edited by Socawho: 25/6/2016 08:41:50 PM

Do you believe that anyone that disagrees with you has Anti intellectual traits?

you know not everyone can be an intellect perhaps like yourself...people have to scrap for a living, ie do a trade or drive a truck just to make ends meet.

Were you a Remain campaigner?

Are you sore about the referendum result? Check out these 10 top self-comforting strategies.


1.) Call every white person who voted Leave a "racist", ignoring the fact that Europeans are also white. Make sure you ignore and marginalise ethnic minority leave voters.

2.) Claim that the (huge) turnout wasn't high enough. 72%? It should have been at least 75%! 80%? It should have been 85%! Make sure to keep moving the goalposts.

3.) Make a stupid e-petition demanding another referendum, just like the socialists did when Labour lost last year. We need to keep having referendums until we get the "right" result.

4.) Get over-excited about the economy, even if the impact has been pretty boring and mundane. Pretend that your 2:2 in English Literature makes you an expert on currency markets.

5.) Attack the very idea of Democracy, because it's only a good thing when it goes the way you want it to. Working class voters don't know what's good for them, but middle class liberals definitely do.

6.) Share memes bashing Brexit, ignoring the unwelcome and uncomfortable realisation that you are in the minority of public opinion.

7.) Boldly claim that Scotland will leave the UK, forgetting that A) they can't afford to B) the EU can't afford to take them C) 1.6m remain votes don't cancel out 2m NO votes.

8.) Make fun of Boris Johnson while sweating slightly and really hoping he doesn't become Prime Minister.

9.) Learn absolutely nothing from the campaign, blaming the result on everyone but yourself. Scaremongering and bullying are clearly the best tactics to use, there's no way they could possibly backfire.

10.) Curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep while listening to "Ode to Joy"

http://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/377704/3270524/#.V26EBPl96Hs

All the Greek finances, loans etc, are in Euro. If they exit and revert to their own currency, which will immediately devalue, those loans will increase spectacularly.

There will be huge knock on effects if the Greeks leave. Massive inflation for one.

The Brits, having their own currency, have a much (relative to the Greeks) easier transition.

I can hear the cogs turning in your head from here :lol:

No unless it was an area I had some expertise in. I believe people that disagree with intellectuals on a vibe, gutfeel or pure ideology as anti-intellectuals. There are a few around here like that.

Not everyone needs to be an intellectual but it's an issue when people are ill-informed. I don't think people that are tradies or drive trucks are dumb anyway. I think a decent part of this result is because of a pretty poorly organised remain campaign. There's more to it though and it's probably while I'm actively reading about this issue even though I don't really care a lot about the UK.

I think many in Greece are watching the BREXIT with great interest.

The EU is very much on the nose in Greece as well, because they won't allow Quantitative Easing.

Greece has been cuffed and shackled. Powder keg that will explode in Europe's face because Greeks don't like to be shackled.

Correct me if Im wrong, but you give the impression that the people who voted in favour of an exit out of Europe as ill informed? And you might be right, yes some of them may have been conned into voting the way they did, but maybe you should respect that a lot of them possibly voted the way they did because their lives have not improved on a day to day level since they have entered the EU, rather than purely thinking that the likes of Boris told them the sky was going to fall if they chose to remain in the EU and they ran a better campaign than the other mob.
Id like to think that if their living standards were better than it was prior to entering the EU then yes, they would have voted to stay...irrespective of how well either side campaigned.

On your notion of intellectuals , why can't people be revelant if they can disagree with an intellectual. Suppose they had ulterior motives or a hidden agenda...why is it such a bad thing...why?
Not all intellectuals are good people...maybe you havent identified that yet:lol:

Edited by socawho: 25/6/2016 11:40:39 PM

Edited by socawho: 25/6/2016 11:42:10 PM

Pure conjecture on your part.

Do you know for sure they'll do less favourable trade deals?

i meant gdp per capita due to less favourable trade deals

All the Greek finances, loans etc, are in Euro. If they exit and revert to their own currency, which will immediately devalue, those loans will increase spectacularly.

There will be huge knock on effects if the Greeks leave. Massive inflation for one.

The Brits, having their own currency, have a much (relative to the Greeks) easier transition.

In Portugal recently we befriended a highly articulate, Spanish EU bureaucrat who resides in Brussels.

Her most compelling ( and very good) argument for the UK staying in the EU, is that the EU membership appears to have prevented wars.

When I countered with the Balkan War in 1991, she thought that Serbia/Croatia /Bosnia, were outside EU membership at the time. That war was terrible.






Edited by Decentric: 26/6/2016 11:51:53 AM

England "preventing" wars. Now that's funny.

England have pillaged all they can from poor/war-torn/foreign-occupied countries and indigenous people for the now. Time to build a wall trump style......and when their problems don't magically disappear they won't have Europe to blame anymore.

England "preventing" wars. Now that's funny.

:lol:

Speaking in recent historical scenarios.

Recently when I was in France, I realised nearly all English/French wars were fought on French soil.