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thewitness wrote:
Got around to including the 2nd Divisions of the NPL for NSW and Vic. In doing so I also included all preliminary FFA Cup games that included 2 NPL clubs.


Wooooo!



Thanks!
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Love it!

Are you able to show a table of the various leagues as a comparison? I.e. A-League and each of the state NPLs compared to each other? I assume there's some sort of factor built into the individual club table already, for games between inter-state teams?

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Great list, I miss Rojas, he was fantastic! FBK is my man though, can't wait to see him in action again this year, he only got better as the season wore on. :lol:
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aussieshorter wrote:
Love it!

Are you able to show a table of the various leagues as a comparison? I.e. A-League and each of the state NPLs compared to each other? I assume there's some sort of factor built into the individual club table already, for games between inter-state teams?


This is the current League Vector table.
As more FFA Cup and NPL Championship matches occur, this will even itself out. WA have only played 3 inter-league matches so far with 2 FFA Cup loses to A-League clubs and a penalty shoot-out loss (eg. draw) with SA. Victorian Division 2 (NPL1) are high up because of a few FFA Cup preliminary round wins against Vic NPL clubs and St Albans' win in Sydney in last years FFA Cup. But Vic2 & NSW2 won't play another inter-league match until next year now with no clubs making the Final 32 of FFA Cup.



League : League Vector
A-League : 574
Vic (NPL) : 288
SA NPL : 160
Vic2 (NPL1) : 111
NSW (NPL1): 91
WA NPL : -36
QLD NPL : -89
TAS NPL : -192
NSW2 (NPL2) : -247
ACT NPL : -272
NNSW NPL : -388
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NZ club the 5th best in Australia, you heard it here first. :-"
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thewitness wrote:
Vic2 (NPL1) : 111
NSW (NPL1): 91

Victorian second division better than NSW first division confirmed. :cool:
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wow, so many fans of ELo now :lol:


thewitness, i'am sure you know this, but you simple don't have enough season (data) to accurate reflect differences between leagues...most Elo web site fail , because of there points distributed between leagues is wrong

Home&Away, i'm sure you will find each State (and A-league) have a significant difference in Home&Away

anyway, good job, maybe you should do a web site for Australia or Asaia like Club Elo has done...also, you should contact the guy at Club Elo , i'm sure he will offer advice



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Position   Team   League   Points
1   Melbourne Victory   AL   2731
2   Sydney FC   AL   2705
3   Perth Glory   AL   2653
4   Adelaide United   AL   2641
5   Wellington Phoenix   AL   2578
6   Melbourne City FC   AL   2573
7   Brisbane Roar   AL   2567
8   Central Coast Mariners   AL   2502
9   Western Sydney Wanderers   AL   2451
10   Newcastle United Jets   AL   2434
11   Bentleigh Greens   VIC   2273
12   South Melbourne FC   VIC   2251
13   Heidelberg United   VIC   2242
14   Melbourne Knights   VIC   2216
15   Hume City FC   VIC   2211
16   Croydon Kings SC   SA   2143
17   Pascoe Vale SC   VIC   2139
18   Oakleigh Cannons   VIC   2121
19   Northcote City FC   VIC   2102
20   Blacktown City FC   NSW   2088
21   Adelaide City FC   SA   2084
22   Bayswater City SC   WA   2073
23   Bonnyrigg White Eagles   NSW   2061
24   MetroStars SC   SA   2053
25   West Adelaide Hellas   SA   2052
26   West Torrens Birkalla   SA   2045
27   Green Gully SC   VIC   2040
28   Campbelltown City SC   SA   2031
29   Port Melbourne Sharks SC   VIC   2010
30   Adelaide Blue Eagles   SA   2000
31   Avondale FC   VIC   2000
32   Sydney Olympic   NSW   1965
33   APIA Leichhardt Tigers   NSW   1958
34   North Geelong Warriors SC   VIC   1957
35   Perth SC   WA   1934
36   Werribee City FC   VIC   1928
37   Rockdale City Suns   NSW   1924
38   Brisbane Strikers   QLD   1919
39   Port Adelaide Pirates   SA   1901
40   White City FC   SA   1896
41   Dandenong Thunder   VIC   1890
42   Sorrento FC   WA   1888
43   South Coast Wolves   NSW   1885
44   South Adelaide Panthers   SA   1884
45   Sydney United 58   NSW   1880
46   Blacktown Spartans   NSW   1879
47   Modbury Jets SC   SA   1876
48   Manly United   NSW   1872
49   Adelaide Raiders   SA   1868
50   Sutherland Sharks   NSW   1865
51   South Hobart FC   TAS   1863
52   Adelaide Comets   SA   1859
53   Moreton Bay Jets   QLD   1850
54   Floreat Athena   WA   1842
55   Richmond   VIC2   1821
56   St Albans Saints   VIC2   1819
57   Olympic FC   QLD   1809
58   Para Hills Knights SC   SA   1784
59   Moreland Zebras   VIC2   1781
60   Cockburn City SC   WA   1773
61   Palm Beach Sharks   QLD   1772
62   Bulleen Lions   VIC2   1769
63   Stirling Lions SC   WA   1768
64   Redlands United   QLD   1767
65   Olympia Warriors   TAS   1763
66   Inglewood United   WA   1747
67   Ballarat Red Devils   VIC2   1745
68   Parramatta FC   NSW   1744
69   Box Hill United   VIC2   1741
70   Balcatta SC   WA   1737
71   Kingston City   VIC2   1734
72   Far North Qld Heat   QLD   1733
73   Hobart Zebras   TAS   1714
74   Goulburn Valley Suns   VIC2   1710
75   Melbourne Victory (Y)   VIC2   1695
76   Marconi Stallions   NSW   1689
77   Brisbane Roar (Y)   QLD   1676
78   Dandenong City   VIC2   1671
79   ECU Joondalup   WA   1662
80   Brisbane City FC   QLD   1655
81   Sunshine Coast Fire   QLD   1652
82   Subiaco AFC   WA   1651
83   Belconnen United   ACT   1646
84   Cooma FC   ACT   1642
85   Northern Rangers   TAS   1636
86   Sunshine George Cross   VIC2   1630
87   Whittlesea Ranges   VIC2   1629
88   Bendigo City   VIC2   1617
89   Melbourne City (Y)   VIC2   1607
90   Northern Fury   QLD   1603
91   Canberra FC   ACT   1596
92   Eastern Lions   VIC2   1594
93   Gungahlin United   ACT   1590
94   Western Pride   QLD   1584
95   Edgeworth FC   NNSW   1583
96   Moreland City   VIC2   1582
97   Devonport City   TAS   1571
98   Armadale SC   WA   1553
99   Canberra Olympic   ACT   1537
100   Perth Glory (Y)   WA   1533
101   Lambton Jaffas   NNSW   1519
102   FFA COE   ACT   1518
103   Springvale White Eagles   VIC2   1512
104   Kingborough Lions United   TAS   1505
105   Murray United   VIC2   1480
106   Hamilton Olympic   NNSW   1478
107   Weston Workers FC   NNSW   1476
108   Launceston City FC   TAS   1457
109   Brunswick City   VIC2   1443
110   Spirit FC   NSW2   1441
111   Broadmeadow Magic   NNSW   1433
112   Northern Tigers   NSW2   1426
113   Central Coast FC   NSW2   1406
114   Woden Weston FC   ACT   1393
115   Adamstown Rosebud   NNSW   1391
116   Hakoah Sydney City East   NSW2   1368
117   Macarthur Rams   NSW2   1356
118   Charlestown City Blues   NNSW   1343
119   Newcastle United Jets (Y)   NNSW   1340
120   SWQ Thunder   QLD   1325
121   Fraser Park   NSW2   1325
122   Glenorchy Knights   TAS   1324
123   Bankstown Berries   NSW2   1321
124   Nunawading City   VIC2   1317
125   Bankstown City Lions   NSW2   1314
126   Monaro Panthers   ACT   1313
127   Tuggeranong United   ACT   1302
128   St George FC   NSW2   1290
129   Maitland FC   NNSW   1265
130   Mounties Wanderers   NSW2   1264
131   Mt Druitt Town Rangers   NSW2   1260
132   Sydney University   NSW2   1256
133   South Cardiff FC   NNSW   1233


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Bentleigh still up there.

How come theres movement with clubs who haven't played a game.

Edited by TheSelectFew: 13/7/2015 11:57:31 PM


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TheSelectFew wrote:
Bentleigh still up there.

How come theres movement with clubs who haven't played a game.

Edited by TheSelectFew: 13/7/2015 11:57:31 PM

If South Melbourne had beaten Melbourne Knights, then they would have been above Bentleigh.

There shouldn't be movement in terms of points (positions may change)if clubs don't play.
None of the ACT teams, Green Gully, FNQ or Brisbane Roar Youth gained or lost points by not playing.
If your talking about Heidelberg, their loss to Northcote City last Wednesday Night was included in this weeks new rankings.
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I dont understand how Roar are 7th when theyve won 3 of the last 5 seasons and were in the semis the 2 years they didnt win. Including absolutely obliterating the league in 13/14. Ridiculous.
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roary's mane wrote:
I dont understand how Roar are 7th when theyve won 3 of the last 5 seasons and were in the semis the 2 years they didnt win. Including absolutely obliterating the league in 13/14. Ridiculous.

Elo ratings are heavily weighted to the most recent data. Matches more than 30 games ago become irrelevant. Brisbane Roar's past 30 games (A-League & FFA Cup) have been 11 wins, 4 draws and 15 loses. The recent record is pretty much the same as Melbourne City's 10 wins, 8 draws and 12 loses.
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thewitness wrote:
roary's mane wrote:
I dont understand how Roar are 7th when theyve won 3 of the last 5 seasons and were in the semis the 2 years they didnt win. Including absolutely obliterating the league in 13/14. Ridiculous.

Elo ratings are heavily weighted to the most recent data. Matches more than 30 games ago become irrelevant. Brisbane Roar's past 30 games (A-League & FFA Cup) have been 11 wins, 4 draws and 15 loses. The recent record is pretty much the same as Melbourne City's 10 wins, 8 draws and 12 loses.


All the ELO ratings for football have the same issues - the comments at http://clubelo.com/TheCase are useful:

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Recent results are weighted more strongly

Every game's influence decreases when new games are played. In this way, a club's Elo rating is a combination of all its past results with games from the distant past having only a microscopic influence and newest games influencing the rating most. This effect can be increased or decreased by changing a parameter in the Elo equation and is chosen so that predictability is maximised.

Where Elo falls short

Elo does only consider results, it completely ignores how the game went. There are metrics that are less affected by randomness that actualy look into what happens on the pitch. These methods can however introduce a bias as the result is what clubs play for. How big the reduced randomness and introduced bias compare depends on the method and is not always easy to quantify.


Having said that I am wondering if the 30 game tail is a bit short...

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Oblivious Troll wrote:
Having said that I am wondering if the 30 game tail is a bit short...

30 games probably is a bit to short, but clubs form can change dramatically in a year in the A-league eg. WSW 2014 to WSW 2015.
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I found an error in the calculations and in fixing that, I decided to slow the points exchange down a little as well. I'm finished with messing around with the inputs now, so it will be consistent from here on. Apologies for starting the thread before the inputs were finalised.

Including matches played 19/7/15

Position   Team   League   Points
1   Melbourne Victory   AL   2624
2   Sydney FC   AL   2595
3   Adelaide United   AL   2558
4   Perth Glory   AL   2545
5   Brisbane Roar   AL   2495
6   Wellington Phoenix   AL   2477
7   Melbourne City FC   AL   2472
8   Central Coast Mariners   AL   2412
9   Western Sydney Wanderers   AL   2408
10   Newcastle United Jets   AL   2355
11   Croydon Kings SC   SA   2166
12   South Melbourne FC   VIC   2131
13   Adelaide City FC   SA   2121
14   Bentleigh Greens   VIC   2120
15   Heidelberg United   VIC   2118
16   Blacktown City FC   NSW   2118
17   MetroStars SC   SA   2111
18   West Adelaide Hellas   SA   2098
19   Adelaide Blue Eagles   SA   2070
20   Bonnyrigg White Eagles   NSW   2067
21   Campbelltown City SC   SA   2051
22   Hume City FC   VIC   2046
23   Melbourne Knights   VIC   2039
24   Oakleigh Cannons   VIC   2036
25   West Torrens Birkalla   SA   2034
26   Sydney Olympic   NSW   1978
27   Pascoe Vale SC   VIC   1977
28   Rockdale City Suns   NSW   1952
29   Green Gully SC   VIC   1950
30   APIA Leichhardt Tigers   NSW   1949
31   Northcote City FC   VIC   1945
32   Bayswater City SC   WA   1939
33   Sutherland Sharks   NSW   1918
34   Adelaide Raiders   SA   1915
35   Port Melbourne Sharks SC   VIC   1915
36   White City FC   SA   1911
37   Sydney United 58   NSW   1909
38   Brisbane Strikers   QLD   1908
39   Adelaide Comets   SA   1901
40   South Adelaide Panthers   SA   1894
41   Modbury Jets SC   SA   1893
42   Port Adelaide Pirates   SA   1892
43   Manly United   NSW   1889
44   Avondale FC   VIC   1884
45   Blacktown Spartans   NSW   1874
46   Olympic FC   QLD   1873
47   South Coast Wolves   NSW   1869
48   South Hobart FC   TAS   1869
49   Moreton Bay Jets   QLD   1865
50   Perth SC   WA   1845
51   North Geelong Warriors SC   VIC   1844
52   Palm Beach Sharks   QLD   1826
53   Para Hills Knights SC   SA   1820
54   Redlands United   QLD   1809
55   Werribee City FC   VIC   1805
56   Sorrento FC   WA   1790
57   Dandenong Thunder   VIC   1779
58   Far North Qld Heat   QLD   1775
59   Parramatta FC   NSW   1771
60   St Albans Saints   VIC2   1752
61   Floreat Athena   WA   1751
62   Richmond   VIC2   1747
63   Moreland Zebras   VIC2   1739
64   Ballarat Red Devils   VIC2   1737
65   Hobart Zebras   TAS   1735
66   Olympia Warriors   TAS   1729
67   Marconi Stallions   NSW   1728
68   Bulleen Lions   VIC2   1718
69   Edgeworth FC   NNSW   1714
70   Lambton Jaffas   NNSW   1711
71   Sunshine Coast Fire   QLD   1706
72   Cockburn City SC   WA   1701
73   Box Hill United   VIC2   1698
74   Brisbane City FC   QLD   1697
75   Balcatta SC   WA   1697
76   Stirling Lions SC   WA   1688
77   Brisbane Roar (Y)   QLD   1685
78   Belconnen United   ACT   1680
79   Canberra FC   ACT   1678
80   Kingston City   VIC2   1677
81   Goulburn Valley Suns   VIC2   1657
82   Melbourne Victory (Y)   VIC2   1651
83   Hamilton Olympic   NNSW   1648
84   Cooma FC   ACT   1644
85   Dandenong City   VIC2   1644
86   Canberra Olympic   ACT   1634
87   Broadmeadow Magic   NNSW   1633
88   Northern Fury   QLD   1628
89   Western Pride   QLD   1624
90   Inglewood United   WA   1616
91   Weston Workers FC   NNSW   1614
92   Northern Rangers   TAS   1610
93   ECU Joondalup   WA   1601
94   FFA COE   ACT   1589
95   Adamstown Rosebud   NNSW   1587
96   Bendigo City   VIC2   1584
97   Devonport City   TAS   1578
98   Sunshine George Cross   VIC2   1576
99   Newcastle United Jets (Y)   NNSW   1576
100   Whittlesea Ranges   VIC2   1567
101   Subiaco AFC   WA   1563
102   Gungahlin United   ACT   1544
103   Melbourne City (Y)   VIC2   1536
104   Moreland City   VIC2   1535
105   Eastern Lions   VIC2   1535
106   Charlestown City Blues   NNSW   1534
107   Northern Tigers   NSW2   1516
108   Kingborough Lions United   TAS   1509
109   Perth Glory (Y)   WA   1508
110   Spirit FC   NSW2   1499
111   Springvale White Eagles   VIC2   1486
112   Armadale SC   WA   1477
113   Maitland FC   NNSW   1471
114   South Cardiff FC   NNSW   1449
115   Central Coast FC   NSW2   1449
116   Woden Weston FC   ACT   1440
117   Launceston City FC   TAS   1431
118   Macarthur Rams   NSW2   1423
119   Murray United   VIC2   1418
120   Brunswick City   VIC2   1417
121   Bankstown City Lions   NSW2   1406
122   Hakoah Sydney City East   NSW2   1387
123   St George FC   NSW2   1385
124   Fraser Park   NSW2   1373
125   Mounties Wanderers   NSW2   1363
126   Tuggeranong United   ACT   1354
127   Bankstown Berries   NSW2   1352
128   SWQ Thunder   QLD   1349
129   Monaro Panthers   ACT   1347
130   Nunawading City   VIC2   1310
131   Sydney University   NSW2   1308
132   Glenorchy Knights   TAS   1306
133   Mt Druitt Town Rangers   NSW2   1302



Edited by thewitness: 20/7/2015 07:23:23 PM
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Last ranking before FFA Cup starts and leads to big changes as League vectors alter as a result of Inter-League matches.
Position   Team   League   Points   Change
1   Melbourne Victory   AL   2624   0
2   Sydney FC   AL   2595   0
3   Adelaide United   AL   2558   0
4   Perth Glory   AL   2545   0
5   Brisbane Roar   AL   2495   0
6   Wellington Phoenix   AL   2477   0
7   Melbourne City FC   AL   2472   0
8   Central Coast Mariners   AL   2412   0
9   Western Sydney Wanderers   AL   2408   0
10   Newcastle United Jets   AL   2355   0
11   Croydon Kings SC   SA   2170   0
12   South Melbourne FC   VIC   2129   0
13   Blacktown City FC   NSW   2119   3
14   Bentleigh Greens   VIC   2117   0
15   Heidelberg United   VIC   2109   0
16   Adelaide City FC   SA   2104   -3
17   West Adelaide Hellas   SA   2103   1
18   MetroStars SC   SA   2088   -1
19   Adelaide Blue Eagles   SA   2082   0
20   Melbourne Knights   VIC   2049   3
21   Bonnyrigg White Eagles   NSW   2044   -1
22   Oakleigh Cannons   VIC   2042   2
23   Hume City FC   VIC   2036   -1
24   Campbelltown City SC   SA   2034   -3
25   West Torrens Birkalla   SA   2022   0
26   Sydney Olympic   NSW   1983   0
27   Pascoe Vale SC   VIC   1978   0
28   Green Gully SC   VIC   1966   1
29   Rockdale City Suns   NSW   1963   -1
30   Bayswater City SC   WA   1942   2
31   APIA Leichhardt Tigers   NSW   1939   -1
32   Northcote City FC   VIC   1939   -1
33   Adelaide Raiders   SA   1932   1
34   Adelaide Comets   SA   1918   5
35   Port Melbourne Sharks SC   VIC   1918   0
36   Brisbane Strikers   QLD   1915   2
37   White City FC   SA   1907   -1
38   Sutherland Sharks   NSW   1905   -5
39   Manly United   NSW   1903   4
40   South Adelaide Panthers   SA   1902   0
41   Sydney United 58   NSW   1897   -4
42   Avondale FC   VIC   1895   2
43   Port Adelaide Pirates   SA   1887   -1
44   Modbury Jets SC   SA   1886   -3
45   South Coast Wolves   NSW   1879   2
46   South Hobart FC   TAS   1873   2
47   Blacktown Spartans   NSW   1870   -2
48   Olympic FC   QLD   1866   -2
49   Moreton Bay Jets   QLD   1865   0
50   Perth SC   WA   1857   0
51   Para Hills Knights SC   SA   1842   2
52   North Geelong Warriors SC   VIC   1839   -1
53   Palm Beach Sharks   QLD   1826   -1
54   Redlands United   QLD   1809   0
55   Sorrento FC   WA   1797   1
56   Parramatta FC   NSW   1794   3
57   Werribee City FC   VIC   1788   -2
58   Dandenong Thunder   VIC   1786   -1
59   Far North Qld Heat   QLD   1775   -1
60   Floreat Athena   WA   1762   1
61   Ballarat Red Devils   VIC2   1752   3
62   Richmond   VIC2   1747   0
63   Moreland Zebras   VIC2   1736   0
64   St Albans Saints   VIC2   1735   -4
65   Hobart Zebras   TAS   1734   0
66   Marconi Stallions   NSW   1727   1
67   Edgeworth FC   NNSW   1726   2
68   Olympia Warriors   TAS   1725   -2
69   Bulleen Lions   VIC2   1718   -1
70   Box Hill United   VIC2   1708   3
71   Sunshine Coast Fire   QLD   1706   0
72   Lambton Jaffas   NNSW   1698   -2
73   Cockburn City SC   WA   1698   -1
74   Brisbane City FC   QLD   1697   0
75   Brisbane Roar (Y)   QLD   1685   2
76   Balcatta SC   WA   1684   -1
77   Canberra FC   ACT   1682   2
78   Belconnen United   ACT   1680   0
79   Hamilton Olympic   NNSW   1671   4
80   Kingston City   VIC2   1666   0
81   Goulburn Valley Suns   VIC2   1664   0
82   Stirling Lions SC   WA   1659   -6
83   Cooma FC   ACT   1648   1
84   Melbourne Victory (Y)   VIC2   1646   -2
85   Canberra Olympic   ACT   1643   1
86   Dandenong City   VIC2   1633   -1
87   Northern Fury   QLD   1628   1
88   Western Pride   QLD   1624   1
89   Weston Workers FC   NNSW   1620   2
90   Broadmeadow Magic   NNSW   1614   -3
91   Northern Rangers   TAS   1611   1
92   Inglewood United   WA   1609   -2
93   ECU Joondalup   WA   1601   0
94   Adamstown Rosebud   NNSW   1601   1
95   Sunshine George Cross   VIC2   1593   3
96   FFA COE   ACT   1593   -2
97   Devonport City   TAS   1582   0
98   Bendigo City   VIC2   1569   -2
99   Whittlesea Ranges   VIC2   1567   1
100   Newcastle United Jets (Y)   NNSW   1552   -1
101   Subiaco AFC   WA   1552   0
102   Melbourne City (Y)   VIC2   1552   1
103   Moreland City   VIC2   1549   1
104   Eastern Lions   VIC2   1541   1
105   Gungahlin United   ACT   1540   -3
106   Charlestown City Blues   NNSW   1528   0
107   Kingborough Lions United   TAS   1524   1
108   Perth Glory (Y)   WA   1508   1
109   Armadale SC   WA   1507   3
110   Spirit FC   NSW2   1504   0
111   Northern Tigers   NSW2   1500   -4
112   Springvale White Eagles   VIC2   1479   -1
113   South Cardiff FC   NNSW   1468   1
114   Central Coast FC   NSW2   1459   1
115   Maitland FC   NNSW   1457   -2
116   Woden Weston FC   ACT   1436   0
117   Bankstown City Lions   NSW2   1427   4
118   Murray United   VIC2   1427   1
119   Launceston City FC   TAS   1416   -2
120   Macarthur Rams   NSW2   1412   -2
121   Hakoah Sydney City East   NSW2   1403   1
122   Brunswick City   VIC2   1401   -2
123   Fraser Park   NSW2   1370   1
124   Mounties Wanderers   NSW2   1365   1
125   St George FC   NSW2   1364   -2
126   Bankstown Berries   NSW2   1363   1
127   Tuggeranong United   ACT   1350   -1
128   SWQ Thunder   QLD   1349   0
129   Monaro Panthers   ACT   1338   0
130   Glenorchy Knights   TAS   1301   2
131   Nunawading City   VIC2   1301   -1
132   Mt Druitt Town Rangers   NSW2   1297   1
133   Sydney University   NSW2   1297   -2

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FFA Cup Results:
#13 lost to #18
#90 lost to #15
#23 defeated #36
#53 defeated #12 in an upset.

Edited by dsriggs: 29/7/2015 10:49:33 PM
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dsriggs wrote:
FFA Cup Results:
#13 lost to #18
#90 lost to #15
#23 defeated #36
#53 defeated #12 in an upset.

Edited by dsriggs: 29/7/2015 10:49:33 PM


Or maybe these 'rankings' are completely bullshit.
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roary's mane wrote:
dsriggs wrote:
FFA Cup Results:
#13 lost to #18
#90 lost to #15
#23 defeated #36
#53 defeated #12 in an upset.

Edited by dsriggs: 29/7/2015 10:49:33 PM


Or maybe these 'rankings' are completely bullshit.


Only if you take them for gospel or are one of those people too thick to understand how something works and thus instantly dismiss it's credibility.


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dsriggs wrote:
FFA Cup Results:
#13 lost to #18
#90 lost to #15
#23 defeated #36
#53 defeated #12 in an upset.

Edited by dsriggs: 29/7/2015 10:49:33 PM

The results will also push all South Australian teams up, and NSW teams down. QLD clubs will likely go up slightly and VIC and NNSW teams down slightly. Have to wait for thewitness for an update though!

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roary's mane wrote:
dsriggs wrote:
FFA Cup Results:
#13 lost to #18
#90 lost to #15
#23 defeated #36
#53 defeated #12 in an upset.

Edited by dsriggs: 29/7/2015 10:49:33 PM


Or maybe these 'rankings' are completely bullshit.


You sound like a betting man.


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aussieshorter wrote:
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The results will also push all South Australian teams up, and NSW teams down. QLD clubs will likely go up slightly and VIC and NNSW teams down slightly. Have to wait for thewitness for an update though!

The Vic teams still went up very slightly as a result of 2 wins and a draw (penalty shoot-outs count as draws). But MetroStars result was a massive lift for SA and fall for NSW. There were a couple of NSW NPL2 games played last night as well.
Things will shuffle around a lot with the FFA Cup over the next few weeks. Hopefully NSW can show that their clubs aren't all terrible at the FFA Cup (Olympic and United should win).
As Croydon Kings play a non-NPL club SA's league vector will remain high until the next round at least.

Position   Team   League   Points   Last Week Pos   Change
1   Melbourne Victory   AL   2624   1   0
2   Sydney FC   AL   2595   2   0
3   Adelaide United   AL   2558   3   0
4   Perth Glory   AL   2545   4   0
5   Brisbane Roar   AL   2495   5   0
6   Wellington Phoenix   AL   2477   6   0
7   Melbourne City FC   AL   2472   7   0
8   Central Coast Mariners   AL   2412   8   0
9   Western Sydney Wanderers   AL   2408   9   0
10   Newcastle United Jets   AL   2355   10   0
11   Croydon Kings SC   SA   2290   11   0
12   MetroStars SC   SA   2228   18   6
13   Adelaide City FC   SA   2224   16   3
14   West Adelaide Hellas   SA   2223   17   3
15   Adelaide Blue Eagles   SA   2202   19   4
16   Campbelltown City SC   SA   2154   24   8
17   West Torrens Birkalla   SA   2142   25   8
18   South Melbourne FC   VIC   2137   12   -6
19   Bentleigh Greens   VIC   2133   14   -5
20   Heidelberg United   VIC   2129   15   -5
21   Melbourne Knights   VIC   2065   20   -1
22   Hume City FC   VIC   2058   23   1
23   Oakleigh Cannons   VIC   2058   22   -1
24   Adelaide Raiders   SA   2052   33   9
25   Adelaide Comets   SA   2038   34   9
26   White City FC   SA   2027   37   11
27   South Adelaide Panthers   SA   2022   40   13
28   Port Adelaide Pirates   SA   2007   43   15
29   Modbury Jets SC   SA   2006   44   15
30   Pascoe Vale SC   VIC   1994   27   -3
31   Green Gully SC   VIC   1982   28   -3
32   Blacktown City FC   NSW   1979   13   -19
33   Para Hills Knights SC   SA   1962   51   18
34   Northcote City FC   VIC   1955   32   -2
35   Bayswater City SC   WA   1942   30   -5
36   Port Melbourne Sharks SC   VIC   1934   35   -1
37   Bonnyrigg White Eagles   NSW   1924   21   -16
38   Brisbane Strikers   QLD   1916   36   -2
39   Avondale FC   VIC   1911   42   3
40   Olympic FC   QLD   1874   48   8
41   Moreton Bay Jets   QLD   1873   49   8
42   South Hobart FC   TAS   1873   46   4
43   Sydney Olympic   NSW   1863   26   -17
44   Perth SC   WA   1857   50   6
45   North Geelong Warriors SC   VIC   1855   52   7
46   Rockdale City Suns   NSW   1843   29   -17
47   Palm Beach Sharks   QLD   1842   53   6
48   APIA Leichhardt Tigers   NSW   1819   31   -17
49   Redlands United   QLD   1817   54   5
50   Werribee City FC   VIC   1804   57   7
51   Dandenong Thunder   VIC   1802   58   7
52   Sorrento FC   WA   1797   55   3
53   Sutherland Sharks   NSW   1785   38   -15
54   Far North Qld Heat   QLD   1783   59   5
55   Manly United   NSW   1783   39   -16
56   Sydney United 58   NSW   1777   41   -15
57   Floreat Athena   WA   1762   60   3
58   South Coast Wolves   NSW   1759   45   -13
59   Richmond   VIC2   1757   61   2
60   Ballarat Red Devils   VIC2   1752   62   2
61   Blacktown Spartans   NSW   1750   47   -14
62   Moreland Zebras   VIC2   1736   63   1
63   St Albans Saints   VIC2   1735   64   1
64   Hobart Zebras   TAS   1734   65   1
65   Olympia Warriors   TAS   1725   68   3
66   Bulleen Lions   VIC2   1722   69   3
67   Sunshine Coast Fire   QLD   1714   71   4
68   Box Hill United   VIC2   1708   70   2
69   Brisbane City FC   QLD   1705   74   5
70   Edgeworth FC   NNSW   1702   67   -3
71   Cockburn City SC   WA   1698   73   2
72   Brisbane Roar (Y)   QLD   1693   75   3
73   Balcatta SC   WA   1684   76   3
74   Canberra FC   ACT   1682   77   3
75   Belconnen United   ACT   1680   78   3
76   Lambton Jaffas   NNSW   1674   72   -4
77   Parramatta FC   NSW   1674   56   -21
78   Goulburn Valley Suns   VIC2   1664   80   2
79   Stirling Lions SC   WA   1659   81   2
80   Kingston City   VIC2   1656   82   2
81   Cooma FC   ACT   1648   83   2
82   Hamilton Olympic   NNSW   1647   79   -3
83   Melbourne Victory (Y)   VIC2   1646   84   1
84   Canberra Olympic   ACT   1643   85   1
85   Northern Fury   QLD   1636   87   2
86   Dandenong City   VIC2   1633   86   0
87   Western Pride   QLD   1632   88   1
88   Northern Rangers   TAS   1611   91   3
89   Inglewood United   WA   1609   92   3
90   Marconi Stallions   NSW   1607   66   -24
91   ECU Joondalup   WA   1601   93   2
92   Weston Workers FC   NNSW   1596   89   -3
93   Sunshine George Cross   VIC2   1593   95   2
94   FFA COE   ACT   1593   96   2
95   Broadmeadow Magic   NNSW   1586   90   -5
96   Devonport City   TAS   1582   97   1
97   Adamstown Rosebud   NNSW   1577   94   -3
98   Bendigo City   VIC2   1569   98   0
99   Whittlesea Ranges   VIC2   1563   99   0
100   Subiaco AFC   WA   1552   101   1
101   Melbourne City (Y)   VIC2   1552   102   1
102   Moreland City   VIC2   1549   103   1
103   Eastern Lions   VIC2   1541   104   1
104   Gungahlin United   ACT   1540   105   1
105   Newcastle United Jets (Y)   NNSW   1528   100   -5
106   Kingborough Lions United   TAS   1524   107   1
107   Perth Glory (Y)   WA   1508   108   1
108   Armadale SC   WA   1507   109   1
109   Charlestown City Blues   NNSW   1504   106   -3
110   Spirit FC   NSW2   1502   110   0
111   Northern Tigers   NSW2   1500   111   0
112   Springvale White Eagles   VIC2   1479   112   0
113   Central Coast FC   NSW2   1459   114   1
114   South Cardiff FC   NNSW   1444   113   -1
115   Woden Weston FC   ACT   1436   116   1
116   Maitland FC   NNSW   1433   115   -1
117   Bankstown City Lions   NSW2   1428   117   0
118   Murray United   VIC2   1427   118   0
119   Launceston City FC   TAS   1416   119   0
120   Macarthur Rams   NSW2   1412   120   0
121   Hakoah Sydney City East   NSW2   1403   121   0
122   Brunswick City   VIC2   1401   122   0
123   Fraser Park   NSW2   1370   123   0
124   St George FC   NSW2   1365   125   1
125   Mounties Wanderers   NSW2   1365   124   -1
126   Bankstown Berries   NSW2   1363   126   0
127   SWQ Thunder   QLD   1357   128   1
128   Tuggeranong United   ACT   1350   127   -1
129   Monaro Panthers   ACT   1338   129   0
130   Glenorchy Knights   TAS   1301   130   0
131   Nunawading City   VIC2   1301   131   0
132   Mt Druitt Town Rangers   NSW2   1297   132   0
133   Sydney University   NSW2   1297   133   0


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Nicccce, into the top 50.
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Keen to see if someone can knockout newcastle from top 10


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Keen to see if someone can knockout newcastle from top 10

Croydon are a legitimate threat.
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Surprised to see Palm Beach at 52 tbh
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Draupnir wrote:
Surprised to see Palm Beach at 52 tbh


They've not had a good year in the NPL - sitting in 8th at the moment.

Fortunately for them, they'll make the FFA Cup at least every second year. Their qualification path means the only NPL teams they would face are Sunshine Coast (currently 9th in NPL) and SWQ Thunder (have never won a game in their two seasons in the NPL).

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TheSelectFew wrote:
Keen to see if someone can knockout newcastle from top 10


I keep checking back on this thread for that very reason, to see a NPL club knock a HAL club out of the top 10 :)
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azzaMVFC wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Keen to see if someone can knockout newcastle from top 10


I keep checking back on this thread for that very reason, to see a NPL club knock a HAL club out of the top 10 :)

An upset in tonight's games with an A-League club losing could do it.

Come on Edgeworth [-o<

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