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Beach: Good effort and needs an A League starting spot. 
Talbot: Have a shave and go away
Italiano: If he stays another year at Gladbach he can't be taken seriously anymore.
Popovic: Was alright and just needs to play every week and grow and we'll see.
JCP: Generally ok and will carve out a career.
Farrell: One of the best prospects and is doing a lot and more of what is required.
Mauragis: Handy type who'll be an A League mainstay.
Hollman: Underwhelming and copped a knock today. He's got some growth but the ceiling is nearing
Teague: He's got to keep playing but anther Joey hype that'll fade I think.
Youlley: Not the best as a newer member. He's in Europe and has time.
Valadon: Still very young and promising.
Mlianovic: I felt he showed bits of his A League play. He's got to play every week.
Brook: Fine for the A League and his national team career is done.:
Toure Has to find a club for regular starts. Definitely got potential.
G Kuol: Stupid loan move and needs a full EFL season or full season anywhere.
A Kuol: Disappointing as he was in the last U23 tournament. He's on the outer national team radar.
Segecic: Doing the right thing with his loan. Decent minutes and got plenty of time.
Velupillay: He gets in the right areas but lacks end product. Frustrating.


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johnszasz - 22 Apr 2024 3:33 AM
Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 3:20 AM

I felt we lacked a controlling midfield. Tired of the Teague hype. Hollman underwhelming but he's going to grow more I think. A lot now will invariably fade into A League deadwood. India etc beckons.

With youth a 3rd have already hit their peak, a 3rd will follow a typical trajectory and a 3rd will exceed expectations. Wouldnt surprise me if we had 20 players from 2001-2004 play at least as high as the championship
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Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 3:20 AM
johnszasz - 22 Apr 2024 3:14 AM

Who are you most disappointed by? The Kuols were terrible, and to be honest not sure why alou was picked considering he isn’t even first choice for many a league games 

I felt we lacked a controlling midfield. Tired of the Teague hype. Hollman underwhelming but he's going to grow more I think. A lot now will invariably fade into A League deadwood. India etc beckons.
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mitra64 - 22 Apr 2024 3:16 AM
mark_000au - 22 Apr 2024 2:37 AM

one poor tournament performance from one nation doesn't change the fact that the region is developing rapidly. anyway I feel no need to convince you of anything, so like I said keep underestimating. the more people that do so the better

You don't need to convince me anything cuz I'm from ASEAN region and I know exactly what is the standard of these nations are. Rapidly?, my ass!!. We been saying that for the past 30 years since 1990. So you don't need to acknowledge me anything about ASEAN standards of football. Even if they make the Olympics under u23 they still far far away from being the top 10 in Asia or close to making the world cup.  Thailand is the strongest one there but if you ask Thai ppl there're still another 20 years at least for them to make the world cup.
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bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:26 AM
What are the odds they don't fire Tony Vidmar? I think it's high. We know FA, he's one of the boys.

Aurelio vidmar in the a league has been enlightening. Best squad in the comp and crazy inconsistent. He might come good but its crazy to give these inexperienced coaches the job because they are former socceroos
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grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:21 AM
Apart from the miss italiano has been a bright spot

Having been at Hannover St Pauli today I still don't think he's got it for Bundesliga 2. The Swiss league perhaps. 
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Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 3:23 AM
I thought Mo Toure actually had a decent tournament considering his lack of service and no goals

He's got the moves. Sure we may say wasteful shots but if he played regularly, he'd be very sharp.
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bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:25 AM
grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:22 AM

I've already replied with work arounds.

Fingers crossed fa try them
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johnszasz - 22 Apr 2024 3:24 AM
Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 3:14 AM

This is the bin squad. The players not selected for numerous reasons are the ones who some claim will beat the A squad and it's a fair claim I feel.

Yeah gutted coz im skeptical fa will do what is needed to qualify going forward and we have learnt that even a pool of decent a league players isnt enough (tho a weaker squad with the austtalian coach can do the job)
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What are the odds they don't fire Tony Vidmar? I think it's high. We know FA, he's one of the boys.
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grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:22 AM
bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:20 AM

Right but the next lot will be just as good because all the excitinf players will be unavailable and uninvolved

Exactly. Hopefully our depth is even better though 
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grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:22 AM
bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:20 AM

Right but the next lot will be just as good because all the excitinf players will be unavailable and uninvolved

I've already replied with work arounds.
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Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 3:14 AM
I don’t believe there is a single player in this side who is ready for senior team 

This is the bin squad. The players not selected for numerous reasons are the ones who some claim will beat the A squad and it's a fair claim I feel.
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I thought Mo Toure actually had a decent tournament considering his lack of service and no goals
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bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:20 AM
grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:13 AM

What? I'm referring to players at this tournament, 4 of those guys have not been involved with this cycle at all. 

Right but the next lot will be just as good because all the excitinf players will be unavailable and uninvolved
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Indonesia deserve to go through way more than we do, this is fair. They absolutely smashed Jordan. 
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Apart from the miss italiano has been a bright spot
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grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:13 AM
bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:11 AM

Robertson volpato circati neiwenhof yazbek bos and triantis all in that age group tho. The better 2004-2008 players will also leave before the tournament

What? I'm referring to players at this tournament, 4 of those guys have not been involved with this cycle at all. 
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johnszasz - 22 Apr 2024 3:14 AM
A number of players playing their last game in a gold shirt tonight and good riddance.

Who are you most disappointed by? The Kuols were terrible, and to be honest not sure why alou was picked considering he isn’t even first choice for many a league games 
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Just 9 months ago at the maurice novello tournament g kuol wss out main avenue towards goal. Really hope he gets out of this slump
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grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 3:15 AM
bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:13 AM

He did have a starting spot in the eredivisie at 18 for a while for the first time since brett holman. Think he still has a great chance to make it

yeah unfortunately that was based on A-League merit and World Cup and it didn't sustain which is the only thing that matters. We will see but he is clearly years off being efficient 
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Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 3:14 AM
I don’t believe there is a single player in this side who is ready for senior team 

Players can improve quickly at this age and the number of u23s getting game time is huge
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grazorblade - 22 Apr 2024 2:58 AM
So serious question: how do we qualify for the olympics gking forward?

Can we make the national coach in charge of the olyroos during qualification like indonesia do? Is there any hope we can get euro players

A league expansion and an nst will increase our depth spmewhat

Many nations have complained about lack of access to Euro players to FIFA and AFC so I'm hoping next time it'll be during an international window, or change the format and make it over several windows, like the Matilda's qualifier. No Olympics for another 4 years anyways so there'll be an Asian Cup in 2026 with no qualification. 
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mark_000au - 22 Apr 2024 2:37 AM
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Vietnam was the finalist at this tournament 4 years ago. How did they go at senior level?  

one poor tournament performance from one nation doesn't change the fact that the region is developing rapidly. anyway I feel no need to convince you of anything, so like I said keep underestimating. the more people that do so the better
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bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:13 AM
mark_000au - 22 Apr 2024 3:07 AM

Tbf I've been saying this for ages that Garang isn't as good as we make him out to be. He's physically weak. I remember even when he got picked for the Roos at 17, I was saying Irankunda > Garang and it's not close. Now the gap has become much greater. Garang needs 3+ years before he can contribute as a European winger. 

He did have a starting spot in the eredivisie at 18 for a while for the first time since brett holman. Think he still has a great chance to make it
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I don’t believe there is a single player in this side who is ready for senior team 

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A number of players playing their last game in a gold shirt tonight and good riddance.
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bbouy - 22 Apr 2024 3:11 AM
Pasquali - 22 Apr 2024 2:55 AM

Yeah been saying this for ages. I'm glad I don't have to watch him anymore. Good to see the 2001-03 guys move on. The 01's are very similar to years before them that plague the Socceroos with issues. 

Robertson volpato circati neiwenhof yazbek bos and triantis all in that age group tho. The better 2004-2008 players will also leave before the tournament
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mark_000au - 22 Apr 2024 3:07 AM
What happened to Garang Koul? Why is he so bad now? Couldn't dribble and physically disadvantage to everyone.

Tbf I've been saying this for ages that Garang isn't as good as we make him out to be. He's physically weak. I remember even when he got picked for the Roos at 17, I was saying Irankunda > Garang and it's not close. Now the gap has become much greater. Garang needs 3+ years before he can contribute as a European winger. 
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mark_000au - 22 Apr 2024 3:07 AM
What happened to Garang Koul? Why is he so bad now? Couldn't dribble and physically disadvantage to everyone.

He's hardly played in weeks. Like playing at a basket case player hoarding loan club makes any sense. Stupid decision to go there really. 
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