really hoping theres a stream for the Vietnam match!!![-o< [-o< [-o<

Ffa 18-0 and 14 -0 And this is supposed to be international football!
Time to join the Eurozone

It's hard to believe we are worried about playing Vietnam.But it says a lot unfortunately about where we are and how far we have to go.

Yes and no - due respect needed once again too, they've made good progress, especially with some of those talents via that Arsenal academy. Just looking at the highlights of that infamous Young Socceroos thrashing and that Vietnamese team played some nice combinations in quick transition for some of the goals. It was rather impressive, even if our defence and BPO on them could've been a bit better. There are quick, agile and technically proficient players in the AFC and that's what we sought to face when joining this Confederation. In a way it's so different to what our players are used to back home, so it's good our youth teams are constantly facing and tested by such opponents.

I think only now, through the technical reforms, we're just starting to reach a technical level with our teams that we can more properly take it to some of these opponents and fight fire with fire? Our recent Joeys teams have had some quick, crafty wingers with good off the ball movement and more mobile strikers too.

Edited by GloryPerth: 19/9/2015 01:50:02 AM

Your spot on GP.

True.

The sad thing is there are a lot of fans in Australia, those who mainly follow European football, and even those who only watch senior Oz football, who have no idea what is evolving and changing in some Asian opponents we face.

They look to World Cup results as sole criteria for denigrating the entire Confederation.

Good points made, GP.

Why is this still happening with our youth teams, i thought the NC would fix this up? :-k

Yep, far too often. Not enough movement (Smart) off the ball in particular. Half the time I feel as though we don't follow the NC at all.

Hopefully a stream against Vietnam.

So what's the problem? Is it the pressure put on the boys by themselves or coaches, is it the travelling to 3 world countries with shit pitches, weather and fighting sickness or is it we are just not good enough?

I would say all of the above as well as no preparation before the tournament for these boys from all parts of Oz except for the few days after they arrived in Vietnam. These boys I'm assuming have only played a handful of times together as opposed to other teams that have trained together for much longer periods of time . I'm taking a guess also not all players have played together in matches just from looking at their team photos before the game.

So the more times together as a team probably helps them come together more and to be able to read each other's play more. These kids look like they all have the technical skills so I'm guessing it's just a matter of time which unfortunately they don't have as they have to win tomorrow.

For me ,not winning second balls says a lot.If you are playing to win ,with passion,you win the second balls.

It just seems lately ,our youth teams in these tournaments,lack the ability to impose themselves.The senior asian teams see this as their weakness and try to be aggressive .Are we forgetting we still need our aggression(passion).
Does this have anything to do with the dutch blueprint?
It's been known at a senior level,that the dutch for all their style and production line of good players ,have never won a won a World Cup.Yet to the north ,the Germans with their killer instinct are dominant.

Absolutely agree with you. I don't see the aggression either. It's all a bit too clinical. It's as if the boys are too scared to go for it as it might cost them their spot in the team if mistakes are made. As long as they correct their mistakes by winning it back if need be with a little aggression and passion, bring it on!!!

Let's these kids play a bit and not be so safe. Bring back that fighting spirit. Put the kids on that will fight tooth and nail for that ball with passion. It'll will fire them up and make them hungry for that ball again. We need them to be hungry like those Asian kids that look towards it as their future and will do anything to win.

Pressure, weather, sickness, third world countries are trivial excuses. We constantly see various forms of these excuses and honestly it is quite poor to make them.

I thought the other teams spend around the same time as us in terms of preparation? This team is filled with FNSW NTC players, it is not like they have never played together. Haven't the majority of players been playing together for almost a month too? Sounds about the same as most other teams I have read competing?

I am for the NC, I think it will reward us in the future, however I do feel we are always making excuses after every failure. People say to ignore results and look at performance (I agree at U16 level it is important, but above that Results matter), I rarely think wow we are playing great football. There have been games at youth level where I have been in awe of some our kids. However these are only a handful of games. Most of the matches I have streamed (Or seen highlights off), I have noticed some teams don't have a winning mentality which comes or a killer instinct. Which is frustrating when you see some of the skills these kids exhibit. It is light years ahead of some of our earlier squads.

I do hope they win against Vietnam, a team that seems to have a our number at Youth Level

Outside of the drubbing we got from them a few years back we also lost to them at the AFF U-19 Youth Championship in September last year (Another group stage exit at Under 19 level).

Not sure that's the problem as these boys have won 7 out of 8 games and 3/1 yesterday was the closest anyone has gotten when they've won. I've watched every game and aggression hasn't been a problem. I seen a bit of panic in yesterday performance with only patches where patients was applied. Excursion was the biggest problem.

This team looks fine in that area so far, I guess the real test will be Vietnam.

Execution under pressure is critical. And these boys haven't played many matches where they've been under pressure except for Thailand and yesterday with Myanmar . Myanmar would have studied that game we played vs Thailand n it was the constant pressure on the ball carrier that created the execution errors. Watch the Thai vs oz game on YouTube and you'll understand the contant pressure I'm talking about. And those Thais were aggressive, hungry and tactical.

The other teams have been together much longer. Look at the various Asian coaches comments on the ASEAN website prior to the last tournament in Cambodia.

Hard to tell much from a few highlights.

If there is a poor surface, this now advantages our teams much more than in the past. We rely on quality pitches to play the style of football we do.

This happened at senior level against Krygystan, on a bumpy pitch, compared to Tajikstan on a much better pitch.

Im also for the NC, its no doubt improved the technical level of the players especially recently at under 17 and the under 15s but when i see the players making decisions on and off the ball i question the coaching.

Is it making our players more smarter?

A friend of mine recently went to Spain to see some family relatives and from watching a couple of youth games the coaches explain that they teach the emphasis on technique and then apply the coaching of game intelligence into the games too.
I.e teach them to learn how to deal with the space and to create space for others.

They say the game is a great teacher for players building their knowledge base, the question is when the players are improving technically especially from what i've witnessed in SAP are they also teaching them game intelligence too?

They have the big advantage of playing so many more games compared to us through.

I know the techniques they teach in SAP are game related but are they teaching players to be disciplined on the ball and teaching the art of making runs on and off the ball.

This is what they do in Spain they are not just technically brilliant but also tactically smart too.

Also the winning mentality is important also, i love the style we are playing but are we putting too much emphasis on playing good football and forgetting the nature of winning cut throat games especially in Asia at all levels?

Quote "We allowed Mayanmar to play direct..."

An observation: week in week out we train and play good homogeneous football, more or less 433 etc. Last year when my 17 year old left here and started playing overseas against teams who do not play like we do, he had no idea how to deal with/defend against teams that play direct. Because everyone here plays very similar, the coaches have not taught our players any tactics against teams that play direct. If the game is the teacher, but the kids have never played nor learnt tactics against direct play, the boys will flounder. Twelve months later, and numerous one to one conversations/lessons from the coach, my son is still learning new nuances/tactics against a variety of teams and their non 433 tactics.
If our boys are old enough to participate in international competitions, they should be taught/coached how to tactically play against a variety of non 433 teams.
Just an observation.

Massive game coming up for the Joeys, must get a positive result ideally if they can find a way to beat win Vietnam or else would be relying on other results to finish as one of the best 2nd placed teams or else they out!

Kick off at 6 30pm EST.

Hopefully someone can find a stream for this match.

Anyone had any luck finding a stream? Kick off in 15 minutes

not sure if this will work, just going through ads at the moment
http://thethao247.vn/xem-bong-da-truc-tuyen-u16-viet-nam-vs-u16-australia-k-15h30-ngay-20-09-2015-tt7765.html

try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6NHJzB1Sw

Thanks mate but went black after 6 minutes.

Found this one [youtube]fAGeEqIPHBc[/youtube]

Pretty terrible quality and can't really see anything though

Down 1 nil

Actually scratch that I think its still nil all

Nothing i have says we are 1 nil down.

1-0 now to the Aussies

Edited by playmaker11: 20/9/2015 07:00:13 PM

Looks like Australia scored.