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CharlieYankos wrote:
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The Olympic team would be a lot stronger with Curtis Good down back. Has anyone got any update on him???

In fact, Ansell and Donachie would also strengthen this squad... The centre backs look a weakness to me in this current squad, while they could be a strength if all these lads were fit...




Against mediocre opposition, if my memory serves me correctly I thought Anselll and Donachie were pretty effective as CBs some months ago for the under 23s.


those 2 guys definitely better than those in the current team .. Irvine is doing well but plays as a DM for his club..

Good is the real star though.. would really boost this team... where is he?????


Injured.
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Decentric wrote:
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The Olympic team would be a lot stronger with Curtis Good down back. Has anyone got any update on him???

In fact, Ansell and Donachie would also strengthen this squad... The centre backs look a weakness to me in this current squad, while they could be a strength if all these lads were fit...




Against mediocre opposition, if my memory serves me correctly I thought Anselll and Donachie were pretty effective as CBs some months ago for the under 23s.


those 2 guys definitely better than those in the current team .. Irvine is doing well but plays as a DM for his club..

Good is the real star though.. would really boost this team... where is he?????


Injured.


yes.. i know he in injured.. I was hoping for some update on whether he is actually making any progress and when/if he is likely to be back... it seems this injury has dragged on a very long time
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Just watching the Victory /CCM game where there are even more players eligible for the under 23s.

George Howard started for Victory as a central striker. He looks young enough.

Murnane played the whole game at LB and has had many starts this season. He has been in some Australian national underage squads.

Pain was the only one I know was in the current squad who performed in the recent Olyroos and has not played many recent HAL minutes. The bench and played less minutes than Howard and Murnane.

For CCM there were quite a few of young players I don't know well. I'm not sure of the age of Poscielero, Bingham, etc? Maybe the CCM fans can fill us in.
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CharlieYankos wrote:
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The Olympic team would be a lot stronger with Curtis Good down back. Has anyone got any update on him???

In fact, Ansell and Donachie would also strengthen this squad... The centre backs look a weakness to me in this current squad, while they could be a strength if all these lads were fit...




Against mediocre opposition, if my memory serves me correctly I thought Anselll and Donachie were pretty effective as CBs some months ago for the under 23s.


those 2 guys definitely better than those in the current team .. Irvine is doing well but plays as a DM for his club..

Good is the real star though.. would really boost this team... where is he?????


all this talk about good being a star, he's not kicked a ball in 2 years ffs
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Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


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Lachlan Jackson is another 20 year old playing regular senior football as a CB for the Jets.

Another candidate for the Young Socceroos.
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Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Which state is it in, Barca?
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Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Which state is it in, Barca?


Im not sure but i think its in Canberra or Coffs Harbour where they have the National Youth Championships.
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Lachlan Jackson is another 20 year old playing regular senior football as a CB for the Jets.

Another candidate for the Young Socceroos.


For someone who posts every five seconds you would think you would be more informed.
The guy has played 4 games most of them average. Twice as a full back.
Plus the young socceroos are under 19.
So will we pick him as an overaged player in next world cup qualifications for the young Socceroos?


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Barca4Life wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Which state is it in, Barca?


Im not sure but i think its in Canberra or Coffs Harbour where they have the National Youth Championships.


It's at the AIS.

Got a mate who has a friend whose younger brother plays for FNNSW (or something like that), anyway was was able to get access to a letter from Eric Abrams.

The lads will play 6 games in their member federations (NNSW v NSW etc.) and 3 games after being ranked in their biological maturity. Also there are all star games which i assume means they'll rank the boys from most potential to ...

Biological maturity will be ranked by FFA and some Uni expert from what I can recall.

Interesting to see how it pans out ...
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jsoccerdoe wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Which state is it in, Barca?


Im not sure but i think its in Canberra or Coffs Harbour where they have the National Youth Championships.


It's at the AIS.

Got a mate who has a friend whose younger brother plays for FNNSW (or something like that), anyway was was able to get access to a letter from Eric Abrams.

The lads will play 6 games in their member federations (NNSW v NSW etc.) and 3 games after being ranked in their biological maturity. Also there are all star games which i assume means they'll rank the boys from most potential to ...

Biological maturity will be ranked by FFA and some Uni expert from what I can recall.

Interesting to see how it pans out ...


What does actually mean? :lol:

Interesting change from previous years though.
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Barca4Life wrote:
jsoccerdoe wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Which state is it in, Barca?


Im not sure but i think its in Canberra or Coffs Harbour where they have the National Youth Championships.


It's at the AIS.

Got a mate who has a friend whose younger brother plays for FNNSW (or something like that), anyway was was able to get access to a letter from Eric Abrams.

The lads will play 6 games in their member federations (NNSW v NSW etc.) and 3 games after being ranked in their biological maturity. Also there are all star games which i assume means they'll rank the boys from most potential to ...

Biological maturity will be ranked by FFA and some Uni expert from what I can recall.

Interesting to see how it pans out ...


What does actually mean? :lol:

Interesting change from previous years though.


From recollection Abram mentioned the difference between 14 and 15 yo bodies (David v Goliath comparison I believe he used). Stated they want to align Aus with the practices of places like Belgium and Spain to give all kids a chance to show their potential ...

Old article from FFA (www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/looking-for-the-stars-of-2022-world-cup/10acnqapol68e17jxz4175tmnv) mentions biological maturity in respect to early mature, normal mature or late developer.

Will be interesting to see how determine each lads maturity.

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jsoccerdoe wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
jsoccerdoe wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Which state is it in, Barca?


Im not sure but i think its in Canberra or Coffs Harbour where they have the National Youth Championships.


It's at the AIS.

Got a mate who has a friend whose younger brother plays for FNNSW (or something like that), anyway was was able to get access to a letter from Eric Abrams.

The lads will play 6 games in their member federations (NNSW v NSW etc.) and 3 games after being ranked in their biological maturity. Also there are all star games which i assume means they'll rank the boys from most potential to ...

Biological maturity will be ranked by FFA and some Uni expert from what I can recall.

Interesting to see how it pans out ...


What does actually mean? :lol:

Interesting change from previous years though.


From recollection Abram mentioned the difference between 14 and 15 yo bodies (David v Goliath comparison I believe he used). Stated they want to align Aus with the practices of places like Belgium and Spain to give all kids a chance to show their potential ...

Old article from FFA (www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/looking-for-the-stars-of-2022-world-cup/10acnqapol68e17jxz4175tmnv) mentions biological maturity in respect to early mature, normal mature or late developer.

Will be interesting to see how determine each lads maturity.


Thanks for explaining.

Out of intrigue will the FFA COE still continue with the same format, because someone mentioned on here it might change or something...
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Barca4Life wrote:

Thanks for explaining.

Out of intrigue will the FFA COE still continue with the same format, because someone mentioned on here it might change or something...


Not too sure. There's a meeting tonight for all the lads and their parents about the AIS/FFA CoE so hopefully one of the dads will pass on some info!

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jsoccerdoe wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:

Thanks for explaining.

Out of intrigue will the FFA COE still continue with the same format, because someone mentioned on here it might change or something...


Not too sure. There's a meeting tonight for all the lads and their parents about the AIS/FFA CoE so hopefully one of the dads will pass on some info!

Edited by jsoccerdoe: 30/11/2015 11:37:41 AM


Frustrating that i cant find any scores or even squads of the teams, dont know why the FFA have to keep this in the dark.
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Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Sorry barca I'm not there as my son was not part of the VIC NTC this year.

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JDB03 wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Sorry barca I'm not there as my son was not part of the VIC NTC this year.


Thats a surprise any reason why?
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Keen for the NTC challenge.


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Barca4Life wrote:
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Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Sorry barca I'm not there as my son was not part of the VIC NTC this year.


Thats a surprise any reason why?


He was with Melb City youth.
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JDB03 wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
JDB03 wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Apparently the FFA NTC Challenge starts on Monday, if anyone is going to watch the games like JDB03 or whoever or you know someone who will try and keep us updated on the results etc :)

From what ive heard the format is changed from last year.


Edited by Barca4life: 24/11/2015 06:22:33 PM


Sorry barca I'm not there as my son was not part of the VIC NTC this year.


Thats a surprise any reason why?


He was with Melb City youth.


No worries cheers.
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Scores for NTC Day 1 -

1. SA v ACT = 2-1
2. VIC v TAS = 2-0
3. OLD v Emerging Jets = 2-0
4. ACT v NT = 1-1
5. VIC v NSW = 0-0
6. Perth Glory v QLD = 2-1
7. Perth Glory v Emerging Jets = 2-1
8. NSW v TAS = 1-1
9. SA v NT = 6-0

Considering pursuing a career as a detective... that was how hard it was to find these results!
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Capital football have the results on their website
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Capital football have the results on their website


Do you have a link? Cheers
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http://www.capitalfootball.com.au/node/1908#.Vl4r3u-Irmg
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Award winners at the NTC are the following (I believe) -

Early maturity player of the tournament - Mark Moric/NSW (Joeys)
Normal maturity player of the tournament - Lachlan Brooks/SA (Joeys)
Late maturity player of the tournament - Fabian Monge/NSW
Keeper of the tournament - Matthew Sutton/NSW
Golden Boot federation - Bul Juach/ACT
Golden Boot mixed - Bryce Bafford/WA
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Remember how it was discussed on here how the FFA scouts for players here and overseas, well i found this article and it seems its seems Ange has the main task in this process.

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Ange Postecoglou reflects on 2015 in charge of the Socceroos and explains the scouting process to identify potential players

David Weiner FOX SPORTS December 08, 2015 6:00AM

THE Socceroos’ next World Cup qualifiers might be way off in March but don’t expect Ange Postecoglou to be winding down during the December holiday season.

The national team boss, who says he watches an average of five hours of football a day to keep abreast of his current Socceroos and those he has on his radar, is about to embark on more scouting as he looks to unearth his next gem ahead of the final two World Cup qualifiers from the opening group phase in March 2016.

Bradford City’s James Meredith is the most recent fresh face to enter the Socceroos’ ranks, in a year where Massimo Luongo took the Asian Cup by storm, before Aaron Mooy made his mark as an influential part of Australia’s XI.

With the opportunity to blood players further in the final two qualifiers in 2016 and a series of friendlies before the second phase begins, Postecoglou is eager to ensure every potential Australian available is being monitored on the Road to Russia.

“That’s probably the biggest part of my role at the moment, particularly with us being in a phase of creating depth,” he told foxsports.com.au.

“To make sure whoever is available to play for us, we get an opportunity to look and bring in if we feel it’s warranted.

“It’s about me watching a lot of games, keeping track of all the players and making sure whoever plays, we get a set of eyes on, be it mine, or Ante Milicic, or someone else. We track them for a while.”

Postecoglou has never been afraid to select a bolter and to test their wares in camp.

But while they might be shock selections to the general public, the Socceroos boss reveals the work that goes on behind the scenes to get to that point.

“A lot of the players, be it James Meredith, or guys like Aaron or Massimo Luongo, we track them for a long time before they’re selected,” he explained.

“People think they come out of the blue; James Meredith (we) pretty much started tracking when I first saw Mass Luongo. So it’s been a two year process. There are other players I’m doing that with right now; they’re probably not on the radar now but could be if they continue to make an impression.

Postecoglou says he has a database of players to track but then listens to “a tip or if someone highlights that they’re going really well”.

“Even someone like Milos (Degenek), who is with the Olyroos, we’ve tracked for quite a while. There was a bit of confusion over his status and nationality but we had someone like Craig Moore in constant contact with him so as soon as his eligibility became clear, we brought him in. It’s not just Socceroos players that I’m tracking, it’s at all levels.”

Postecoglou adds: “I’m pretty obsessive with these things — I tend to be the one … to put my eyes over it just to make sure to make we’re not missing anything.”

So how much football does a national team boss actually watch?

“I probably average about five hours a day; I’ll probably watch two to three full games every day then highlights or edited pieces for another couple of hours. Whether that’s live in the middle of the night, depending on my schedule, or during the day.”

Australia’s current crop of Olyroos will find Postecoglou’s remarks important, too. Not only do they have a crunch tournament in January in their bid to make the Rio Olympics, but it could be their door to a crack at stepping up to the next level.

“There’s certainly a few players I’ll be looking at giving some opportunities to in March and June. The bulk of the opportunities will come from players who perform well in that competition.

“That’s the most important one for us; we’ve already had Jackson Irvine, Josh Brillante, Chris Ikonomidis, Adam Taggart, who have already been a part of the national group. Milos, Mustafa Amini, Brad Smith, Jason Geria; they all play in positions where we lack a bit of depth and they’re now playing regularly or regular first team football.

“They’ve got a great opportunity to show what they’ve got in a tough competition. Anyone who steps up in that will be knocking on the door of the national team.”

Postecoglou has been diligent in building an expanded pool of players in recent years, but there’s still a couple of areas where opportunities beckon.

“As a broad perspective, fullback and still our striking role, we still haven’t found real consistency there besides Timmy (Cahill). They’re our two main areas. But it doesn’t mean we discount anyone else either.

“I thought we were pretty strong in midfield during the Asian Cup and still we’ve managed to bring Aaron Mooy through, who has become very influential. Tommy Rogic is getting stronger every time. It doesn’t mean we discount other areas. From our perspective we need to keep blooding players in certain areas just to make sure we’ve got plenty of cover and international experience.”

Indeed, that flexibility and depth can only aid Postecoglou’s vision.

“Through the Asian Cup we played in a particular way, but the emergence of Aaron and Tommy Rogic gives us some options. I’m always looking to evolve the team and our style of football and formation — I see it as something that is growing throughout the World Cup campaign. Having players like that in the mix allows us to get where we want to get to,” he explained.

“There’s a little bit of a misconception about me and what I do. I always tend to change things with Brisbane, or Victory, or national team. But regardless, home or away, I want my team to dominate and play in the opposition half. The way you day that with your formation you can change depending on the players you have and how you want it to evolve. Having those kind of players gives you the flexibility I’ve always wanted in my teams to change things and keep oppositions guessing what we do.”

It’s been a huge year for the Australian national set-up, headlined by the Asian Cup triumph in January and a stellar display against world champions Germany in a friendly during the year, while the green and gold are back in where they need to be in the first phase of World Cup qualifying.

Postecoglou explains that the reverberations of that have been felt around Asia, and in time, will be back home as well.

“Certainly there’s a fair bit of respect about (in Asia),” he said.

“The people in Asian football are aware of the transformation we’ve made and the regeneration of the team and a few of them are facing the same challenge now. Seeing us doing and have success has been of real interest to everyone, and the fact that I’m a local coach that has done it. Most of the Asian nations tend to go overseas, that’s had an impact as well.”

The Asian Cup win returned the Socceroos to the top of the billboard in terms of exposure on the national stage, and Postecoglou feels the flow-on effect of the triumph will only truly be felt in years to come.

It’s not dissimilar to the recent November 16 triumph, although Postecoglou feels the recent nostalgic celebrations were also a wonderful snapshot of how far the game has come as well.

“The biggest thing that hit me was how much the game has evolved. 10 years ago we celebrated qualifying for a World Cup and the coach is very much elevated to legend status, and two World Cups later we qualify for a World Cup and the coach is sacked.

“It just goes to show our expectations have risen as a nation, as they should, and qualifying for World Cups is no longer all we’re looking for. The public now, the football public in particular and the sporting public want more from the Socceroos than just qualifying. That’s pleasing for me because it shows the game is evolving all the time.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/ange-postecoglou-reflects-on-2015-in-charge-of-the-socceroos-and-explains-the-scouting-process-to-identify-potential-players/story-e6frf4l3-1227636656994


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Jordan and UAE are each playing 4 friendlies. Vietnam have already been in camp for ages and will play a couple.

UAE v North Korea
UAE v Syria
UAE v China
UAE v South Korea

Jordan v Iraq
Jordan v North Korea
Jordan v Syria
Jordan v Uzbekistan

Vietnam v Yemen
Vietnam v Japan


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Keeping expectations at rock bottom, that way I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get results. Pardon my pessimism.

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 wrote:
Jordan and UAE are each playing 4 friendlies. Vietnam have already been in camp for ages and will play a couple.

UAE v North Korea
UAE v Syria
UAE v China
UAE v South Korea

Jordan v Iraq
Jordan v North Korea
Jordan v Syria
Jordan v Uzbekistan

Vietnam v Yemen
Vietnam v Japan


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Keeping expectations at rock bottom, that way I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get results. Pardon my pessimism.


More like - meanwhile we have clubs and fans crying about releasing players for the actual tournament.

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I wonder if Fox will bother broadcasting these games or we would still have to rely on dodgy streams?
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Our preparations for these tournaments are never good enough compared to our opposition. Partly why we struggle i think.
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