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Barca4Life wrote:
I wonder if Fox will bother broadcasting these games or we would still have to rely on dodgy streams?
Does anyone know what the AFC website has to offer for paid streams of these games on their website?
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lebo_roo wrote:
Our preparations for these tournaments are never good enough compared to our opposition. Partly why we struggle i think.


Then we complain why we don't qualify...traditionally its easy to blame the coach but to be fair a 7 day training camp does give the squad some time to work on certain things before the tournament starts.
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Remember how it was discussed on here how the FFA scouts for players here and overseas, well i found this article and it seems its seems Ange has the main task in this process.

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Ange Postecoglou reflects on 2015 in charge of the Socceroos and explains the scouting process to identify potential players

David Weiner FOX SPORTS December 08, 2015 6:00AM

THE Socceroos’ next World Cup qualifiers might be way off in March but don’t expect Ange Postecoglou to be winding down during the December holiday season.

The national team boss, who says he watches an average of five hours of football a day to keep abreast of his current Socceroos and those he has on his radar, is about to embark on more scouting as he looks to unearth his next gem ahead of the final two World Cup qualifiers from the opening group phase in March 2016.

Bradford City’s James Meredith is the most recent fresh face to enter the Socceroos’ ranks, in a year where Massimo Luongo took the Asian Cup by storm, before Aaron Mooy made his mark as an influential part of Australia’s XI.

With the opportunity to blood players further in the final two qualifiers in 2016 and a series of friendlies before the second phase begins, Postecoglou is eager to ensure every potential Australian available is being monitored on the Road to Russia.

“That’s probably the biggest part of my role at the moment, particularly with us being in a phase of creating depth,” he told foxsports.com.au.

“To make sure whoever is available to play for us, we get an opportunity to look and bring in if we feel it’s warranted.

“It’s about me watching a lot of games, keeping track of all the players and making sure whoever plays, we get a set of eyes on, be it mine, or Ante Milicic, or someone else. We track them for a while.”

Postecoglou has never been afraid to select a bolter and to test their wares in camp.

But while they might be shock selections to the general public, the Socceroos boss reveals the work that goes on behind the scenes to get to that point.

“A lot of the players, be it James Meredith, or guys like Aaron or Massimo Luongo, we track them for a long time before they’re selected,” he explained.

“People think they come out of the blue; James Meredith (we) pretty much started tracking when I first saw Mass Luongo. So it’s been a two year process. There are other players I’m doing that with right now; they’re probably not on the radar now but could be if they continue to make an impression.

Postecoglou says he has a database of players to track but then listens to “a tip or if someone highlights that they’re going really well”.

“Even someone like Milos (Degenek), who is with the Olyroos, we’ve tracked for quite a while. There was a bit of confusion over his status and nationality but we had someone like Craig Moore in constant contact with him so as soon as his eligibility became clear, we brought him in. It’s not just Socceroos players that I’m tracking, it’s at all levels.”

Postecoglou adds: “I’m pretty obsessive with these things — I tend to be the one … to put my eyes over it just to make sure to make we’re not missing anything.”

So how much football does a national team boss actually watch?

“I probably average about five hours a day; I’ll probably watch two to three full games every day then highlights or edited pieces for another couple of hours. Whether that’s live in the middle of the night, depending on my schedule, or during the day.”

Australia’s current crop of Olyroos will find Postecoglou’s remarks important, too. Not only do they have a crunch tournament in January in their bid to make the Rio Olympics, but it could be their door to a crack at stepping up to the next level.

“There’s certainly a few players I’ll be looking at giving some opportunities to in March and June. The bulk of the opportunities will come from players who perform well in that competition.

“That’s the most important one for us; we’ve already had Jackson Irvine, Josh Brillante, Chris Ikonomidis, Adam Taggart, who have already been a part of the national group. Milos, Mustafa Amini, Brad Smith, Jason Geria; they all play in positions where we lack a bit of depth and they’re now playing regularly or regular first team football.

“They’ve got a great opportunity to show what they’ve got in a tough competition. Anyone who steps up in that will be knocking on the door of the national team.”

Postecoglou has been diligent in building an expanded pool of players in recent years, but there’s still a couple of areas where opportunities beckon.

“As a broad perspective, fullback and still our striking role, we still haven’t found real consistency there besides Timmy (Cahill). They’re our two main areas. But it doesn’t mean we discount anyone else either.

“I thought we were pretty strong in midfield during the Asian Cup and still we’ve managed to bring Aaron Mooy through, who has become very influential. Tommy Rogic is getting stronger every time. It doesn’t mean we discount other areas. From our perspective we need to keep blooding players in certain areas just to make sure we’ve got plenty of cover and international experience.”

Indeed, that flexibility and depth can only aid Postecoglou’s vision.

“Through the Asian Cup we played in a particular way, but the emergence of Aaron and Tommy Rogic gives us some options. I’m always looking to evolve the team and our style of football and formation — I see it as something that is growing throughout the World Cup campaign. Having players like that in the mix allows us to get where we want to get to,” he explained.

“There’s a little bit of a misconception about me and what I do. I always tend to change things with Brisbane, or Victory, or national team. But regardless, home or away, I want my team to dominate and play in the opposition half. The way you day that with your formation you can change depending on the players you have and how you want it to evolve. Having those kind of players gives you the flexibility I’ve always wanted in my teams to change things and keep oppositions guessing what we do.”

It’s been a huge year for the Australian national set-up, headlined by the Asian Cup triumph in January and a stellar display against world champions Germany in a friendly during the year, while the green and gold are back in where they need to be in the first phase of World Cup qualifying.

Postecoglou explains that the reverberations of that have been felt around Asia, and in time, will be back home as well.

“Certainly there’s a fair bit of respect about (in Asia),” he said.

“The people in Asian football are aware of the transformation we’ve made and the regeneration of the team and a few of them are facing the same challenge now. Seeing us doing and have success has been of real interest to everyone, and the fact that I’m a local coach that has done it. Most of the Asian nations tend to go overseas, that’s had an impact as well.”

The Asian Cup win returned the Socceroos to the top of the billboard in terms of exposure on the national stage, and Postecoglou feels the flow-on effect of the triumph will only truly be felt in years to come.

It’s not dissimilar to the recent November 16 triumph, although Postecoglou feels the recent nostalgic celebrations were also a wonderful snapshot of how far the game has come as well.

“The biggest thing that hit me was how much the game has evolved. 10 years ago we celebrated qualifying for a World Cup and the coach is very much elevated to legend status, and two World Cups later we qualify for a World Cup and the coach is sacked.

“It just goes to show our expectations have risen as a nation, as they should, and qualifying for World Cups is no longer all we’re looking for. The public now, the football public in particular and the sporting public want more from the Socceroos than just qualifying. That’s pleasing for me because it shows the game is evolving all the time.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/ange-postecoglou-reflects-on-2015-in-charge-of-the-socceroos-and-explains-the-scouting-process-to-identify-potential-players/story-e6frf4l3-1227636656994


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Very interesting article, Barca.

Thanks for posting it.
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Barca4Life wrote:
I wonder if Fox will bother broadcasting these games or we would still have to rely on dodgy streams?


Since they're in our group, our best bet is something official from the UAE, similar to Al Kass in Qatar. Example: http://shoof.alkass.net/shoof/play.php?id=QVpxMTR0MmZ0L0NYMD0q

I'm confident we'll find a good one.

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
I wonder if Fox will bother broadcasting these games or we would still have to rely on dodgy streams?


Since they're in our group, our best bet is something official from the UAE, similar to Al Kass in Qatar. Example: http://shoof.alkass.net/shoof/play.php?id=QVpxMTR0MmZ0L0NYMD0q

I'm confident we'll find a good one.


Fox wont broadcast. There will be something though.

Download the Live Soccer TV app.


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Just found this about the Under 17 World Cup, its the technical report of the whole tournament with each team analysed.

The info about the Joeys is interesting, the points they mention it kind of relates to what we identified with the team, except we all thought we had issues with ball retention but also surprisingly they thought we were physically ok

The Key points they identified with us where:

•   Patient build-up play from the back through the midfield
•   Assured combination play
•   Strong, hard-working players
•   Excellent team spirit
•   Disciplined, well-organised defence
•   Aerial strength used effectively at set pieces in defence
•   Aerial dominance in defence

They also identified who were our key players, or the players they were impressed with.(Some of them we didn't expect to be on the list its good we had 3 in their though)

Key players

10 HOPE Joshua:
•   pacy attacking midfielder with excellent dribbling skills and good passes

5 BANDERA Jackson:
•   hard-working left-back with good attacking runs and crosses

17 PANETTA Nicholas:
•   pacy left-sided attacker with excellent technique and good runs

Here is the whole report, Aus is on page 160-161

http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/technicalsupport/02/74/76/76/fifau-17chile2015web_neutral.pdf


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U-23 Asian Cup is next week. Will SBS be doing online streaming for the Olyroos games?
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U-23 Asian Cup is next week. Will SBS be doing online streaming for the Olyroos games?


https://mobile.twitter.com/andrew1116/status/683230331630010369

Not SBS according to their Football Executive Producer. Foxsports didn't reply interestingly. Here's hoping.

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Ahh, damn it. I wonder who owns the rights in AUS.
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Barca4Life wrote:
Just found this about the Under 17 World Cup, its the technical report of the whole tournament with each team analysed.

The info about the Joeys is interesting, the points they mention it kind of relates to what we identified with the team, except we all thought we had issues with ball retention but also surprisingly they thought we were physically ok

The Key points they identified with us where:

•   Patient build-up play from the back through the midfield
•   Assured combination play
•   Strong, hard-working players
•   Excellent team spirit
•   Disciplined, well-organised defence
•   Aerial strength used effectively at set pieces in defence
•   Aerial dominance in defence

They also identified who were our key players, or the players they were impressed with.(Some of them we didn't expect to be on the list its good we had 3 in their though)

Key players

10 HOPE Joshua:
•   pacy attacking midfielder with excellent dribbling skills and good passes

5 BANDERA Jackson:
•   hard-working left-back with good attacking runs and crosses

17 PANETTA Nicholas:
•   pacy left-sided attacker with excellent technique and good runs

Here is the whole report, Aus is on page 160-161

http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/technicalsupport/02/74/76/76/fifau-17chile2015web_neutral.pdf


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Good stuff , Barca.
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For the Under 23s, I think Brandon O'Neill is good enough as a ball winner to supplant Antonis or Brillante in the starting line up, as he is a better ball winner than both . O'Neill has been winning hard balls against some pretty rugged HAL senior opponents. Antonis can also play attacking mid.

O'Neill plays within his limitations, not being a slick ball carrier or 1v1 evasion exponent.

I think what is happening now with the under 23s, is it is difficult to select a best eleven because there is so much depth and fine margins between the ability of players.

Also, since the last hit outs, many players have leapfrogged others by playing a lot of games, whilst others have been languishing on benches or been injured and not playing football.
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Vidmar will start with amini in the midfield and rightly so. He is more talented then any current olyroo midfielder in the squad.
Oneill will not figure if a defensive midfielder is required then milos will slot in there
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Its a joke that Fox nor SBS haven't picked up the games for this tournament, it shows how much they really don't care, i'm sure every other nation competing with us will have their games broadcasted.

Disappointing that we have to rely on streams to watch these matches. ](*,)

Anyway after the recent inclusions of Deng and O'Neill i would like to see both of them start.


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Barca4Life wrote:
Its a joke that Fox nor SBS haven't picked up the games for this tournament, it shows how much they really don't care, i'm sure every other nation competing with us will have their games broadcasted.

Disappointing that we have to rely on streams to watch these matches. ](*,)

Anyway after the recent inclusions of Deng and O'Neill i would like to see both of them start.



I agree, let's hope the next tv deal negotiated by the FFA includes major youth tournaments. It's through these tournaments that the next generation of stars are introduced to the football public. Australia needs a new young star to grab the public attention.
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I'm still optimistic that Fox will pick up the Aussie games.
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lebo_roo wrote:
I'm still optimistic that Fox will pick up the Aussie games.


Im not


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TheSelectFew wrote:
lebo_roo wrote:
I'm still optimistic that Fox will pick up the Aussie games.


Im not
Don't blame them for not wanting to get up at 3am to broadcast Vidmar coached team.
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LOL according to the FFA no :(

Socceroos ‏@Socceroos 57m57 minutes ago
@Matt28121098 unfortunately there is no TV coverage of the #Olyroos qualifiers.
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Maybe it'll be on https://www.youtube.com/user/theafcasiancup?
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are iran in our group? Heard Azmoun who is considered the best asian player in this age group was not released by his club.

Carved up at the Asian Cup in Australia

Good for everyone else I guess
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lebo_roo wrote:
LOL according to the FFA no :(

Socceroos ‏@Socceroos 57m57 minutes ago
@Matt28121098 unfortunately there is no TV coverage of the #Olyroos qualifiers.


If its true then its unacceptable....considering most games are on 3am or something. ](*,)
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lebo_roo wrote:
LOL according to the FFA no :(

Socceroos ‏@Socceroos 57m57 minutes ago
@Matt28121098 unfortunately there is no TV coverage of the #Olyroos qualifiers.


Boooo :(

Thanks for finding out though x
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Ikon and Izzo OUT

Sotirio and Hall IN

Can't post link as on phone...
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Ikonomidis out - Sotirio in
Izzo out - Hall in

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/two-changes-to-final-olyroos-squad/1qqb6y4vzxt9w11bgri322htk7

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Legit 1 milisecond apart :lol:
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Bowden wrote:
Ikon and Izzo OUT

Sotirio and Hall IN

Can't post link as on phone...


1 second ;)

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Surely there will be a stream. In most Asian countries it's on Fox Sports and USA it's shown on some sports channel.


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Sotirio for Ikon ? it's practically like for like...
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