Foxtel faces backlash after it shows ads opposing same-sex marriage


Foxtel faces backlash after it shows ads opposing same-sex marriage

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[size=6]Foxtel faces backlash after it shows ads opposing same-sex marriage[/size]
Monday 10 August 2015 14.14 AEST Last modified on Monday 10 August 2015 15.53 AEST


Some people say they have cancelled their Foxtel subscriptions after the company broadcast advertisements rejected by two free-to-air TV stations

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Anti-gay marriage ad that prompted backlash against Foxtel

Foxtel is facing a backlash from some subscribers after it decided to screen advertisements opposing same-sex marriage.

The ads, created by anti-gay marriage group Marriage Alliance, were knocked back by the Seven and Ten networks but have been screened by the pay TV provider.

People took to Facebook to vent their anger, with many saying they would cancel their Foxtel subscription.

“Just cancelled my account – Netflix is much less homophobic, and better value,” one wrote.

“What’s new on Foxtel this week? Bigotry, hatred and lies,” said another.

Some questioned Foxtel for airing advertisements for I Am Cait, the new reality show about Caitlyn Jenner’s transition, alongside the anti-equality message in the ads.

Marriage Alliance’s campaign, which uses the line “It’s not as simple as you think”, says legislating to allow same-sex marriage may affect other people’s rights.

Foxtel said it was aware its decision to air the ad had “caused hurt and distress to some customers”.

“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.

The company said it was a strong supporter of marriage equality and it was screening a series of celebrity-backed ads calling for marriage equality.

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I mean sure they can show whatever ads they please, but how on earth did anybody sign off on this thinking it was a good idea.
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Silly decision by Foxtel from a business perspective, there was always going to be backlash.
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surprised?? rupert murdoch slags off same sex marriage in one way or another every day.


i cant wait for netflix to pick up the HAL

 




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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


if we were sent to the polls to vote on gay marriage, id vote for it to happen but Jesus the way some people carry on because someone has a differing opinion to them is disgraceful (and that's people on both sides of the fence)

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People are outraged by this? What a bunch of lemmings :lol:
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The Maco wrote:
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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


if we were sent to the polls to vote on gay marriage, id vote for it to happen but Jesus the way some people carry on because someone has a differing opinion to them is disgraceful (and that's people on both sides of the fence)

Carrying on?

100% I agree they have the moral right to advertise what they want, but just as much consumers have the right to not continue to pay for their service if they chose not to.

In the case of Foxtel it just seems very puzzling as a business to expose themselves like this.

That said, I won't be cutting my cable; I already know that Rupert is basically Emperor Palpatine, but I want that sweet 1080i A-League regardless.

Edited by paladisious: 10/8/2015 07:33:24 PM
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paladisious wrote:
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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


if we were sent to the polls to vote on gay marriage, id vote for it to happen but Jesus the way some people carry on because someone has a differing opinion to them is disgraceful (and that's people on both sides of the fence)

Carrying on?

100% I agree they have the moral right to advertise what they want, but just as much consumers have the right to not continue to pay for their service if they chose not to.

In the case of Foxtel it just seems very puzzling as a business to expose themselves like this.

Meant more in the general argument rather than this specific case

In saying that as well I don't understand people cancelling their subscription because of 1 ad, would've thought making a complaint to the media watchdog could have accomplished more, your last point is spot on but
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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


Yes but those in favour of gay marriage refuse to engage in debate also, simply dismissing anyone opposed to gay marriage as 'homophobic' and making ridiculous overreactions (cancelling Foxtel subscriptions :lol: ) when someone has a different opinion to them.
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lefties crying about free speech again
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Im all for gay marriage but it worries me the lack of debate.


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I love when opponents to same-sex marriage use the "Children deserve the right to have a mother and a father" or whatever argument. Same sex couples can adopt RIGHT NOW. Same-sex marriage will have little to no impact on the amount of kids raised by same sex couples.

Plus, as someone who grew up with only one competent parent, I'd much rather be raised by two mummies or two daddies who could create a warm and loving environment than a mother who was emotionally scarred by a dickhead who saw his children as a burden on his life who tied him to some woman.

If there was 100% conclusive and unbiased evidence that showed that children of same-sex couples were worse off than children of opposite-sex couples, that'd be a different story.

It's very surprising that Rupert Murdoch opposes same-sex marriage, considering the massive hard on he has for Tony Abbott.

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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


Yes but those in favour of gay marriage refuse to engage in debate also, simply dismissing anyone opposed to gay marriage as 'homophobic' and making ridiculous overreactions (cancelling Foxtel subscriptions :lol: ) when someone has a different opinion to them.

I'd love to see an argument that isn't homophobic. Heard a lot of them and they all have been.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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The conviction of a gay couple who lived in Australia and the United States for trafficking their adopted surrogate baby and using him to make paedophile pornography ought to provoke questions about the wisdom of same-sex adoption


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The pair began sexually abusing the child when he was less than two weeks old. They also took him around the world and allowed him to be abused by at least eight men in several countries. Photographs and videos were uploaded to a paedophile site. The men told the child that the abuse was normal behaviour and coached him on what to say if he were ever questioned.


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Abuse of infants and children is not confined to homosexuals. But Newton and Truong actually portrayed themselves in the media as champions of gay rights. Under the headline “Two dads are better than one”, the ABC (Australia) described the idyllic world of their son in 2010. “Becoming gay parents was hard work for Pete and Mark but they’d do it all over again if they had to,” the ABC journalist wrote. “It’s a happy, relaxed family scene. But it wasn’t an easy road to get there. After many hurdles [their son] was born by surrogacy in Russia.”

Three years later, the words ring false, but the journalist was completely duped. “We decided that we would have a child, that it was time for us to have a family. We wanted to experience the joys of fatherhood and we started our surrogacy over in the United States back in 2002,” Truong told him.

Incredibly, they admitted that one of the difficulties they faced was police suspicion that they might be pae do philes. The journalist asked whether the authorities believed that there was “something dodgy ... something pae do phlic going on here?” Newton seems to have laughed it off. “Absolutely, absolutely, I’m sure that was completely the concern,” he responded.


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I'm pro marriage equality but this is not that big of a deal tbh.

Is it silly that Foxtel would agree to show this ad? I don't know, I bet there are more conservative foxtel subscribers then non-conservatives. Sky news is actually pretty conservative from what I've seen. Not fox news conservative but more than what I originally thought

Who are foxtel upsetting at this? The young leftist uni student vote and they don't have foxtel and won't for about 5-10 years.
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Abuse of infants and children is not confined to homosexuals.

Only part of what you quoted that needed to be.

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I'm pro marriage equality but this is not that big of a deal tbh.

Is it silly that Foxtel would agree to show this ad? I don't know, I bet there are more conservative foxtel subscribers then non-conservatives. Sky news is actually pretty conservative from what I've seen. Not fox news conservative but more than what I originally thought

Who are foxtel upsetting at this? The young leftist uni student vote and they don't have foxtel and won't for about 5-10 years.


Along with the shit storm that is IQ3, the last thing Foxtel needed was more bad pr, which this most certainly is.
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Im all for gay marriage but it worries me the lack of debate.


It is concerning when a timid differing opinion like this is given and people believe it to be 'risky', 'dangerous' or outrageous creating hostile reactions yet heavily saturated propaganda for the opposite would be considered fine, viewed as safe and normal programming.

In my opinion that is not a free thinking society at all.
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Unshackled wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Im all for gay marriage but it worries me the lack of debate.


It is concerning when a timid differing opinion like this is given and people believe it to be 'risky', 'dangerous' or outrageous creating hostile reactions yet heavily saturated propaganda for the opposite would be considered fine, viewed as safe and normal programming.

In my opinion that is not a free thinking society at all.

People are just as free to not engage with individuals or corporate entities purveying the "saturated propaganda for the opposite", too.
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Abuse of infants and children is not confined to homosexuals.

Only part of what you quoted that needed to be.


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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


Yes but those in favour of gay marriage refuse to engage in debate also, simply dismissing anyone opposed to gay marriage as 'homophobic' and making ridiculous overreactions (cancelling Foxtel subscriptions :lol: ) when someone has a different opinion to them.


The perpetually outraged have been tingling with antici.........pation since 7 and 10 pre-emptively crumbled to their whining. Poor Adam Goodes, the social justice warriors have already moved on.
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surprised?? rupert murdoch slags off same sex marriage in one way or another every day.


i cant wait for netflix to pick up the HAL



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inala brah wrote:
surprised?? rupert murdoch slags off same sex marriage in one way or another every day.


i cant wait for netflix to pick up the HAL

A-League and chill

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“We believe this debate should be won by the force of the argument in favour of reform, not by refusing to engage in debate or allow contrary opinion to be put,” a spokesman said.


Yes but those in favour of gay marriage refuse to engage in debate also, simply dismissing anyone opposed to gay marriage as 'homophobic' and making ridiculous overreactions (cancelling Foxtel subscriptions :lol: ) when someone has a different opinion to them.


What is up for debate might I ask? I think there's been 295693487562895 debates in other countries over the pro's and con's of homosexual marriage. What more could possibly be added?

My opinion on refusing gay marriage is that it is akin to saying that Asian people can't get married because they're Asian. It's horribly discriminatory and inappropriate.
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I'm interested in those that say same sex marriage is ok but a polygamous marriage is not.

Surely if the definition is widened to encompass other forms of marriage then who's to say a polygamous marriage is not legitimate.

In the press club debate Corey Bernardi made this argument and Penny Wong more or less dismissed it out of hand but surely if you're talking about discrimination then one is as valid as the other.


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Munrubenmuz wrote:
I'm interested in those that say same sex marriage is ok but a polygamous marriage is not.

Surely if the definition is widened to encompass other forms of marriage then who's to say a polygamous marriage is not legitimate.

In the press club debate Corey Bernardi made this argument and Penny Wong more or less dismissed it out of hand but surely if you're talking about discrimination then one is as valid as the other.


I think the current debate centres around monogamous relationships.

What precedent is there for polygamous relationships?
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Munrubenmuz wrote:
I'm interested in those that say same sex marriage is ok but a polygamous marriage is not.

Surely if the definition is widened to encompass other forms of marriage then who's to say a polygamous marriage is not legitimate.

In the press club debate Corey Bernardi made this argument and Penny Wong more or less dismissed it out of hand but surely if you're talking about discrimination then one is as valid as the other.


I think the current debate centres around monogamous relationships.

What precedent is there for polygamous relationships?


None. But how can you argue one is OK and the other is not?

I'm for same sex marriage by the way.


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surprised?? rupert murdoch slags off same sex marriage in one way or another every day.


i cant wait for netflix to pick up the HAL

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Nice meemee friend.

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T-UNIT wrote:
Aussies love a good whinge.


This.

If someone wants to pay money to push their stupid bigoted agenda, I don't see why Fox shouldn't take it.
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