Three mods from Victoria last I counted, and I'm pretty sure Benjamin isn't a Victory supporter. :lol:

4 if you count Funky (may he rest in piece)

4 if you count Funky (may he rest in piece)

5 if the campaign in my sig is successful \:d/

More likely for Tony Abbott turning out to be the best prime minister in history than that happening.

Yeah i have to agree. Although I know Buggalugs hates the a-league model, with regards to this issue, this thread has been a good source of up to date info re Brisbane.

Just wish the topics put forward weren't always so negative. But in the case of Brisbane there really is no good new to report.

:lol: Brisbane fans gloat about winning silverware = Horrible.
Victory fans gloat about winning silverware = Awesome.

It took Brisbane 6 years to start winning trophies, they had a right to go a little nutz and gloat. Just like Victory had a break for 6 years before they got back to winning silverware and can rightfully gloat. You are both so a like its not funny.

The row erupted in April when the PSSI halted the country's top-flight league due to a disagreement with the sports ministry over the participation of two clubs. The ministry then froze all activities of the PSSI, and said it was setting up a transitional body to replace the association, which has long faced allegations of corruption and mismanagement.

FIFA, which takes a dim view of governments interfering in domestic associations, backed the PSSI and gave Jakarta until May 29 to allow the association to resume activities, or face a ban from world football.

A series of last-ditch efforts this week to resolve the row, including an attempt by Indonesia's vice president to persuade the sports ministry to back down, came to nothing. Sports Minister Imam Nahrawi has refused to change course and in recent days expressed hope that the crisis engulfing FIFA would delay the sanction.

Top FIFA officials were arrested this week after being accused by US authorities of taking huge bribes, while Swiss police are investigating the awarding of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

President Joko Widodo has supported Nahrawi, saying urgent reform is needed in Indonesian football. "It doesn't matter if we are absent from international competitions for a while as long as we can win big in the future," he was cited as saying in the Jakarta Post newspaper on Saturday, before the suspension was announced. "I'm confident when the reforms are made, we will be moving forward."

The suspension is just the latest crisis for Indonesian football, which was only just recovering from a feud between the PSSI and a breakaway association, which led to the creation of two separate leagues. FIFA also threatened to ban Indonesia over that row but the two sides eventually came back together, avoiding a sanction.

Weak management, poor security at games, and :shock: high-profile cases of foreign players dying after going unpaid :shock: have also cast a shadow over football in the world's fourth-most populous country.

How can a club that looked set to be the dominant force in the domestic game become one of the A-League's disaster zones just a couple of years after setting a record that could take decades to equal?

The downfall of Brisbane Roar and their recent near-death experience is a sorry saga that:

* Shows the club and its management in a poor light.

* Calls into question the way Football Federation Australia examines the bona fides of potential owners when it allocates licences.

* Reflects poorly on the A-League, and further amplifies the impression there are serious issues concerning the sustainability of numerous clubs in the competition.

* Poses questions about the commitment of the Brisbane soccer public, who might reasonably have been expected to bolster attendances to Melbourne Victory-type levels given the remarkable success the club enjoyed and the quality venue it occupies.

The Roar have survived under the ownership of the Indonesian Bakrie Group by the skin of their teeth, after the company promised to invest $1 million to tide over the finances on Tuesday night.

Earlier in the day, FFA boss David Gallop had said that unless Bakrie stumped up the cash by close of business, the club would be taken off it, but he clearly relented once the assurance of a short-term cash injection was made.

But if this tale of woe goes along the lines of earlier scripts, this will only be a Band-Aid.

The Roar are in hock for millions of dollars. Star player Luke Brattan has already walked as an out-of-contract agent following non-payment of wages and statutory benefits, while local businesses attempted to put pressure on to recover money owed by beginning winding-up orders.

Does anyone have confidence that under the present ownership things will really improve that much?

Their track record in charge hardly inspires it, although, sadly, there is plenty of precedent in the A-League for poor financial performance.

The Central Coast Mariners seem to lurch and stumble from fiscal black hole to black hole, pleading poverty and trying to shift games and even sell home advantage to better-supported opponents to balance the books.

The Newcastle Jets have become a byword for fiscal misadventure, particularly under the disastrous stewardship of one-time coal king and billionaire Nathan Tinkler.

It all seemed such a great idea at the time – the local boy made good rescuing the local A-League club when it came upon hard times.

Like many fairytales, it was too good to be true, and the Jets are reeling and rocking, and desperately trying to stabilise themselves under the control of the FFA.

Still, being run by the game's governing body is hardly anything to be ashamed of these days.

It seems half the league has been administered at some point from City Hall, FFA's head office having become the lender of last resort as league bosses shore up the 10-team competition to ensure television contracts – which demand five matches a week – are met.

Adelaide and Perth have also been subject to head-office control in their time. Gold Coast ended up imploding in a sea of red ink and recrimination, and while Wellington Phoenix are OK now, they were teetering before their present owners came on the scene.

It seems only the big-city Melbourne and Sydney teams can generate sufficient cash-flow and backing to prosper on their own – and even Western Sydney Wanderers were under the control of the game's governing body for a long time, until an owner could be found.

The Mariners and the Jets have both won the A-League title, but as smaller clubs from regional areas perhaps it's not such a huge surprise they have endured some financial problems.

But Brisbane? Say it ain't so. The Roar have been the most successful team – bar Melbourne Victory – in the league's short history.

The men in orange won three titles in four years, in 2010-11, 2011-12 and 2013-14.

They became the first club to go back to back in grand finals, and their run of 36 games unbeaten is an Australian record that may take a very long time to even equal, never mind better.

With current Socceroos boss Ange Postecoglou at the helm for those first two grand final triumphs, playing an attractive brand of possession-based football, it looked as though the Roar couldn't fail.

So why did the wheels fall off?

Was it because, within days of that second championship, Postecoglou quit to return to Melbourne, to take over at Victory? It's hard to blame that, because under Mike Mulvey the club won the championship two years later.

Was it because Roar didn't invest enough in quality players? They had, in German Thomas Broich, the player many regard as the best import the league has seen.

Perhaps it was instability on the bench. After Postecoglou left, his assistant Dario Vidosic was appointed. He lasted barely eight months before Mulvey was given the job. Despite winning the title, the Englishman was shown the door early in the 2014-15 season, to be replaced by Dutchman Frans Thijssen. Now John Aloisi is in the hot seat. That's four coaches in 3½ years.

Whatever the reason, and it's a combination of several factors, it's a bad look for the Roar, bad news for FFA and a real image-breaker for the A-League. The sooner it can be sorted, the better.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/aleague-soccer-how-the-mighty-brisbane-roar-became-a-whimper-20150916-gjo4ph.html#ixzz3lxj59MTD

Someone asked elsewhere and it's bugged me also why the Bakries have been late-paying the staff and players if they plan to go on.

How about this theory.

They've given all the players several legal opportunities to jump contract without quite tipping the FFA, but only Brattan has taken up the offer.

Perhaps the bait was thrown to hopefully get Broich and McKay to bite ?

Nothing to do with that. It just their way of doing business. Give them a inch they take a mile. The asia region you have to look after ones self and make sure everything is water tight on your own side, because if you don't its more fool you. I have done dealings all across asia, this is what it like. Trying to get them to pay on time is the majority of work. I never send product until they payed because of this mentality. The only ones that a decent are singapore that i have worked with. But SE asia and china, you have to look after ones self interest first.

It's also to do with pride, most people would cut their losses and sell it off to the bidder. But they want to save face, so they rather keep it in spite just so they say they sold it for 10 mil.

So why did the wheels fall off?

Nothing to do with that. It just their way of doing business. Give them a inch they take a mile. The asia region you have to look after ones self and make sure everything is water tight on your own side, because if you don't its more fool you. I have done dealings all across asia, this is what it like. Trying to get them to pay on time is the majority of work. I never send product until they payed because of this mentality. The only ones that a decent are singapore that i have worked with. But SE asia and china, you have to look after ones self interest first.

It's also to do with pride, most people would cut their losses and sell it off to the bidder. But they want to save face, so they rather keep it in spite just so they say they sold it for 10 mil.

Cash flow M80, ask the mining companies who have sacked most of their workforce.

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Folding has to be a real possibilty unless they move stadiums.

Even after they came off winning the league etc and had 16k first up last season- besides when Villa came, the crowds plummeted. How the hell after all this would they get anywhere close to their breaking even level?

If they got around 10k (would most likley be less going on supporter sentiment) for half the season, with their crippling deal, how could anyone justify keeping it afloat?

Folding has to be a real possibilty unless they move stadiums.

Even after they came off winning the league etc and had 16k first up last season- besides when Villa came, the crowds plummeted. How the hell after all this would they get anywhere close to their breaking even level?

If they got around 10k (would most likley be less going on supporter sentiment) for half the season, with their crippling deal, how could anyone justify keeping it afloat?

Time for an old fashioned crowd cap.

Fuck. Yes.

-PB

Been a while since we've had one - doesn't feel like the A-League if there isn't one tbh.

Time for an old fashioned crowd cap.

Rumour has it the Rental Agreement is already crowd-staggered

To be honest i don't get why they open the top tier, i think a lot to do with the western stand being mostly members (up until now) and the eastern stand is where the suncorp stadium member seating is, who don't show up. They should really force everyone down on the bottom tier, suncorp members should really have an option to sell off their seat for games, most members are RL fans that go to the union. But not many go to the a league.

agreed , that side is also the side that faces the cameras. Looks bad. I have been there when there is 18 ,000 and a good atmosphere but anyone watching on TV would think the place is empty.

BTW ...things aren't good at the Roar at the moment ,but I have no fears of the club folding. The FFA won't let that happen .
I also think that there are others waiting to step in if the Bakries lose the licence.
The Coffee club boys are actually fans of the club and still attend games.If they can get some other shareholders to share the load they have stated they would come back.The last they mentioned it ,they had some other backers interested.
I think there is more going on behind the scenes than we know.

Edited by miron mercedes: 19/9/2015 07:34:59 AM

BRISBANE Roar fans refusing to renew their yearly memberships and threatening to boycott home matches because of their anger over the Bakrie Group’s ownership of the club need to realise where their loyalties should lie.

Whether supporters like it or not, the reality is that the Bakries own the Roar and have decided they are not ready to sell the club.

They have made a commitment to Football Federation Australia that they intend to fix the mess the three-time A-League champions find themselves in.

The club’s loyal players aren’t to blame, and neither are the hardworking football department and office staff who have worked tirelessly in extremely trying circumstances in recent months.

But they are the ones who are going to suffer due to the lack of members and low crowds.

Unpopular club owners are hardly a rarity in the world of football, but supporters don’t abandon their team because of their frustrations with off-field matters.

Fans staying loyal to a team, regardless of boardroom and ownership shenanigans, is part of the fabric of football, as well as every other sport.

If Roar supporters really want an ownership change, they aren’t doing themselves any favours by their boycotting tactics and threats.

Potential new investors would much prefer to buy into a thriving club, not a fractured franchise.

The Roar have made some smart moves in the way they have restructured their operations and should be applauded and recognised for their efforts in tough times.

It also needs to be remembered that the Roar aren’t just any club. This is a team that has won three A-League championships, a feat that only been matched by Melbourne Victory.

But while the Victory enjoy fantastic support, the Roar don’t. That needs to change

LUKE Brattan holds no grudges against Brisbane Roar for continuing to fight for his services despite his intention to sign for a club in Europe.

As revealed in The Sunday Mail, the Roar have sent their members a letter saying they would “continue to assess any possible legal options” in relation to the Brattan matter after their latest appeal against the termination of his contract for late superannuation pay was dismissed last Friday.

The Roar also claimed that Brattan had told them he did not want to leave the club.

Brisbane at least want a transfer fee for Brattan, who had two years of his deal remaining, rather than him leaving for free.
On Sunday Brattan told The Courier-Mail that the Roar’s actions were “understandable”.

“I know they will do everything to keep me and they’ve told me that,” he said.

“I said I’d never leave to go to another A-League club and I plan on sticking to that.

“(But) I took all the legal steps to terminate my contract and was upfront and honest with the club the whole time and that’s all that matters to me.”

Brattan is set to leave on Wednesday night for England, where he has been linked with a move to English Championship club Brighton.

There has also been wild speculation that Melbourne City’s parent club, Premier League giants Manchester City, will sign Brattan and immediately loan him out to another club.