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vanlassen wrote:rusty wrote:paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Drunken_Fish wrote:salmonfc wrote:trident wrote:France doesnt seem to have very good security. They could learn a thing or two from Israel and the UK. What I don't get is how after 9/11 and 7/7, a terrorist attack that kills 60+ can still happen. It is very hard to stop people who do not care if they die. Authorities have stopped lots of attacks but they will not stop them all. Religion mate. Brainwashed fools (of all persuasions) are to blame. No just the Muslims.  Breivik " I'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person, that would be a lie" Religious enough, it seems. "Myself and many more like me do not not necessarily have a personal relationship with God" He also describes himself a s a cultural Christian, or a Christian agnostic or atheist. It's clear that his ambitions were polictically motivated, and not religiously motivated, but let's not let the truth get in the way of a good old Christian bashing. With leftist, the narrative is more important than the facts. What about the fact that he's wearing a cross in that picture and during the attack?
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Munrubenmuz wrote:vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:It was one person, not a religious organisation. Still counts. That is a strange deflection. Ignore the problems of an entire religion because of the actions of of person if that helps you sleep at night. Exactly. Clearly ridiculous. The problem is the Muslim religion and the lunatic's ability to justify themselves by quoting 1300 year old goat herder bullshit. The sooner religion, in all forms, dies out the better. The problem is extremism. Even if you stamp put religion there will still be people blowing each other up. It's human nature.
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paladisious
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Apparently it was three attackers at Bataclan, and they're all dead.
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trident wrote:salmonfc wrote:Apparently all the people who were in the Bataclan are dead. including the band? :shock: Band made it out, they took a taxi home
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:It was one person, not a religious organisation. Still counts. That is a strange deflection. Ignore the problems of an entire religion because of the actions of of person if that helps you sleep at night. Agree the problems are there, but disagree that it's just Islam. I agree with you on that. It is just that the problems with all other religions are dwarfed by the seemingly endless problems with Islam.
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Muz
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rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:It was one person, not a religious organisation. Still counts. That is a strange deflection. Ignore the problems of an entire religion because of the actions of of person if that helps you sleep at night. Exactly. Clearly ridiculous. The problem is the Muslim religion and the lunatic's ability to justify themselves by quoting 1300 year old goat herder bullshit. The sooner religion, in all forms, dies out the better. The problem is extremism. Even if you stamp put religion there will still be people blowing each other up. It's human nature. Couldn't hurt to try.
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vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:It was one person, not a religious organisation. Still counts. That is a strange deflection. Ignore the problems of an entire religion because of the actions of of person if that helps you sleep at night. Agree the problems are there, but disagree that it's just Islam. I agree with you on that. It is just that the problems with all other religions are dwarfed by the seemingly endless problems with Islam. Nah,it's pretty much islam.
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trident
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salmonfc wrote:trident wrote:salmonfc wrote:Apparently all the people who were in the Bataclan are dead. including the band? :shock: Band made it out, they took a taxi home that was lucky for them they were out prior to the attack?
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paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:rusty wrote:paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Drunken_Fish wrote:salmonfc wrote:trident wrote:France doesnt seem to have very good security. They could learn a thing or two from Israel and the UK. What I don't get is how after 9/11 and 7/7, a terrorist attack that kills 60+ can still happen. It is very hard to stop people who do not care if they die. Authorities have stopped lots of attacks but they will not stop them all. Religion mate. Brainwashed fools (of all persuasions) are to blame. No just the Muslims. Breivik " I'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person, that would be a lie" Religious enough, it seems. "Myself and many more like me do not not necessarily have a personal relationship with God" He also describes himself a s a cultural Christian, or a Christian agnostic or atheist. It's clear that his ambitions were polictically motivated, and not religiously motivated, but let's not let the truth get in the way of a good old Christian bashing. With leftist, the narrative is more important than the facts. What about the fact that he's wearing a cross in that picture and during the attack? What sort of cross was he wearing? Do you have an image?
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4 gunmen at Bataclan. 2 dead, 2 arrested.
118 people dead inside.
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Hollande is on his way to Bataclan right now, apparently.
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Is "our thoughts and prayers are with XYZ" the most overused, hackneyed phrase used in times like these? The "prayers" bit is particularly grating.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:It was one person, not a religious organisation. Still counts. That is a strange deflection. Ignore the problems of an entire religion because of the actions of of person if that helps you sleep at night. Exactly. Clearly ridiculous. The problem is the Muslim religion and the lunatic's ability to justify themselves by quoting 1300 year old goat herder bullshit. The sooner religion, in all forms, dies out the better. The problem is extremism. Even if you stamp put religion there will still be people blowing each other up. It's human nature. Couldn't hurt to try. Yeah it would. Would be replacing a religions kind of extremism with a political kind of extremism.
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ISIS claiming responsibility. No surprises there.
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paladisious
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rusty wrote:What sort of cross was he wearing? Do you have an image? 
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Munrubenmuz wrote:Is "our thoughts and prayers are with XYZ" the most overused, hackneyed phrase used in times like these?
The "prayers" bit is particularly grating.
I think the grating thing is the hundred plus people who died, not the harmless benign offer of prayers.
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Kind of fucked up that picture, but you can find others. The cross continues through the logo to be more crucifix shaped.
Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 12:06:33 PM
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Muz
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rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:vanlassen wrote:paladisious wrote:vanlassen wrote:It was one person, not a religious organisation. Still counts. That is a strange deflection. Ignore the problems of an entire religion because of the actions of of person if that helps you sleep at night. Exactly. Clearly ridiculous. The problem is the Muslim religion and the lunatic's ability to justify themselves by quoting 1300 year old goat herder bullshit. The sooner religion, in all forms, dies out the better. The problem is extremism. Even if you stamp put religion there will still be people blowing each other up. It's human nature. Couldn't hurt to try. Yeah it would. Would be replacing a religions kind of extremism with a political kind of extremism. Unless you have a crystal ball you're speculating.
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Muz
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rusty wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Is "our thoughts and prayers are with XYZ" the most overused, hackneyed phrase used in times like these?
The "prayers" bit is particularly grating.
I think the grating thing is the hundred plus people who died, not the harmless benign offer of prayers. My point is if God's listening to the these "prayers" were was God when these people were getting shot? "I want to thank God that I survived that massacre". Right, God loves you but he didn't give a shit about the other 117 people that got blown away.
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Kudos to the media, they have done an excellent job this time. They're not showing gory pictures or carnage that only serves the extremists agenda to terrorize.
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paladisious wrote:Kind of fucked up that picture, but you can find others. The cross continues through the logo to be more crucifix shaped.
Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 12:06:33 PM So are you arguing he was a Christian or he wasn't?
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trident wrote:salmonfc wrote:Apparently all the people who were in the Bataclan are dead. including the band? :shock: They might have escaped at the start. However if what salmonfc says is true then it refers only to those still in there when the police assault started. Some reports state there was over 1000 in there in total.
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ISIS has claimed responsibility
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A journalist who was at the game was saying how the mood changed when everyone learned what was going on from their phones. Must have been so weird for the players.
No official announcement was made until the end of the game over the stadium PA.
Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 12:14:44 PM
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paladisious wrote:Kind of fucked up that picture, but you can find others. The cross continues through the logo to be more crucifix shaped.
Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 12:06:33 PM I think its pretty obvious to those of us in the know that he was a Christian. Let them deny it all they want.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:paladisious wrote:Kind of fucked up that picture, but you can find others. The cross continues through the logo to be more crucifix shaped.
Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 12:06:33 PM So are you arguing he was a Christian or he wasn't? He said he was, no matter how you obfuscate it with quotes where he's saying how observant he is.
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paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:What sort of cross was he wearing? Do you have an image? I can't see where on his clothing he is wearing the cross, perhaps on his butthole?
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trident wrote:paladisious wrote:Kind of fucked up that picture, but you can find others. The cross continues through the logo to be more crucifix shaped.
Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 12:06:33 PM I think its pretty obvious to those of us in the know that he was a Christian. Let them deny it all they want. Again you are pointing out 1 christian fuckwit compared to 1 000 000 islamic nutcases.
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rusty wrote:paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:What sort of cross was he wearing? Do you have an image? I can't see where on his clothing he is wearing the cross, perhaps on his butthole? Thats from his facebook page if I'm not mistaken
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rusty wrote:paladisious wrote:rusty wrote:What sort of cross was he wearing? Do you have an image? I can't see where on his clothing he is wearing the cross, perhaps on his butthole? On his chest ffs.
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