This is an example of what I'm talking about. No doubt there are plenty of people who'd rather blame their problems on external factors (whatever they may be), that shouldn't mean that concerns about corporate capture and government's failures are delegitimised./quote]

I 100% agree.

On the news last night they were talking about how only Gina Reinhardt pays anything close to the amount of tax she should whereas most multinationals shift money around to avoid it. Complete farce. It's up to the government to close all avenues of avoidance and the companies to do the right thing and pay their fair share.

My point though was the people I know who blame the government do so because they dislike their job because they either didn't finish uni or got a degree in a specialised field with very competitive opportunities. These are the kind of people i'm targeting with the comment.

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Furthermore, all your posts dismissing 'social justice' ignore the importance of being aware of structural oppression in society on the basis that sometimes people talking about these issues sound a bit like Clem Ford/Socialist Alternative/Antifa (insert whichever other fringe element of the left annoys you).

There's the gender pay gap which is a disgrace. A mate who is a business analyst gets paid 16k less than her male colleague for the same job. It's a real problem which seems to be continually brushed aside. Women legitimately are marginalised in society, while I find Clementine Ford to be a despicable human a lot of the time she isn't wrong about gender inequality.

As for socialism, I find it rich that people seem to think others should continually pay for their ideology. On this forum we've discussed tax rates over and over and the rich could always pay more.

I do have to laugh though at the extremist socialists who seem to think that companies are evil and avoiding tax simply because they're big, multinationals :lol:

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You've pretty well summed up what makes series like South Park and movies like Team America so brilliant.

Q: Are you two guys liberal or conservative? Me and my friends have had debates about this.

: We avoid extremes but we hate liberals more than conservatives and we hate them [conservatives].

: I hate conservatives but I really fucking hate liberals.

So if you don't know the classics but hate the modern, where do you sit?

-PB

No f***ing idea who prince was. I know he was a pop star, but I only heard of him a couple of years ago when I was watching some MAX Countdown, and one of his songs won it. I couldn't name a single one of his songs.

I'm weird with music, I don't really know or like most of the classics, but I hate modern pop music with a passion.

if you asked me about Prince yesterday I would've assumed he was already dead

if you asked me about Prince yesterday I would've assumed he was already dead

Not a leftard: but the criticism of the qatar world cup is race driven and underlying islamophobia.

Ie "those middle easterns arent capable of holding such an event", some European place or America

Not at all. It's more to do with the weather, human rights violations, lack of footballing pedigree and size of the country itself (tournament will practically be a 2 city event, in a nation with less than 3 million residents atm.

Unpopular opinion, for a Prince fan, I could handle never hearing Purple Rain again.

Over played much. My fave track of prince is cinnamon girl. Great song writing and brillant song

Over played much. My fave track of prince is cinnamon girl. Great song writing and brillant song