Who cares about the logies? Too bad his mustafa story was made up.
But anyway, he's the guy telling us all what to think on his nightly show hence why he's relevant.

Actually, I have explained a lot of things to you. I have referred to my Imam when I do not understand something.



Ahh. Nice of you to personally attack me. I have missed it so much. Calling me out on my lacking mental ability, as well as asserting falsely that I spread some form of ill advised knowledge....



...which is what you have shown in this paragraph. I have been reading the Quran for decades. I have not admitted anything. The Quran does not promote murder, rape, and theft.



We don't have commands like that. I am not an apologist.



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Once again, thanks for assuming . I have actually questioned my leaders.



Oh crap. Logies are now no longer Australian. Sorry guys.

Waleed Aly says its ok, so its all good.

Bullshit. I've asked you to explain a tonne of things in the past and every single time you deflect to "Oh, I'll have to check what my Imam says".

Not only do you lack the ability to think for yourself, you have the cancerous trait of spreading and advertising this system of knowledge-getting on the internet.

I will give you credit for saying "unethically Islamic" rather than "non-Islamic" though, as I'm glad you've actually started to read the Quran and accept that it asks for people to be murdered, have rape committed against them and have their belongings stolen.

Now, if only we could live in a world that didn't have commands like that and people being apologists on football forums about them - What a better world the world could be.

To anyone else reading that isn't already brainwashed with this shit, just think about how many less extremists would exist if there weren't apologists or "moderate muslims" spreading a book that calls for rape and genocide in the name of peace. But hey - If your Imam says it's peaceful, who are you to question rape and murder?

Remember. No responsibility folks. Knowledge lies with the leaders - You don't have the right to question.

Edited by Draupnir: 26/5/2016 11:45:14 PM

Yes, long time. Kind of needed a break from this thread. Made some good friends on here.

Things are ok. Struggling to find a job at the moment and get my career on track. Other than that, can't really complain.

What do you mean in terms of change? Are you talking about the Taliban? If so, essentially the Taliban wanted to enforce a more Islamic rule of law in an Islamic country. Unfortunately the people in charge went about their business in a far more extreme and unethically islamic manner.



None of what you have said makes sense, nor is it factually correct.

I am really no expert but in Iran's case I believe in the 70s the Iranian people were actually directed to dress more "Western" so in fact the perceived cultural freedom from that era vs post revolution was a actually just another directive from a dictator.

If nothing else it provides a fascinating insight into the mindset/political system of the region, or at least Iran.

When one particular religion doesnt allow for religious freedom then you must prevent that religion from attaining political power if you want to maintain freedom of religion.

Religion can usually be assumed by the country of origin of the arrivals and/or the names if they have any paperwork.
Its not fail safe but you'd be able to account for probably more than 90%.

So to ensure religious freedom she is suggesting to discriminate against people's religious freedom??

Do you have to even declare your religious denomination when you migrate to Australia??

Did you account for the fact they reproduce?
Look at the statistics of countries with a greater intake. The percentage growths are startling and they're exponential.

If we took 50,000 refugees a year for 10 years that's still less than 1% of the population. That also assumes that every last one of them is a muslim.

No one is suggesting banning any religion here, however I assume Ms Hanson is suggesting managing immigration quotas to ensure the values of relative freedom that we enjoy in this country are not overwhelmed by a culture that holds different values.

No one ... I just will "fight" for my values if required.

You seem to be ready for war, but who with?

"Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees"

We already have religious freedom, however what if one religion doesnt permit religious freedom if it becomes the state religion?

(Chronology seems to be a problem for you)
We know the reason for women covering up. There is no personal responsibility in Islam, everything is Inshallah.

I suggest you download the safe space plugin.

POTY =d> =d> =d>

Just to return to this excellent post it made an great point.

It is about creating a fear of invasion for each generation:

Australia's involvement in the Vietnam War was largely because of a fear of Communism spreading to our shores.

We had the Cold War last through the 80's, and continually feared Communism.

In the 1990's and early this century we were concerned of the Asian Invasion. First we feared the Japanese buying up our landmarks and taking over (when I was in primary school we were all going to be speaking Japanese by the end of high school apparently). Then it moved on to boat people invading Australia from Asia.

Now the focus has shifted to Muslims.

It is a cycle. Politicians / advocates use half truths and play on people's fear (ignorance) to create an illusion that our sovereignty is under threat by some external factor. So this generation they fear Muslims, the next generation will have a new invasion to fear as with other invasion threats they are nothing more than paranoia and only can hold mileage for a few years.

Perhaps one day the invasion will come, and we'll be oblivious to it because of the boys who cried wolf, and Pauline Hanson is definitely one of those who cries wolf ... and hence why her relevance has waned over the years.

I'd prefer no religion to dominate, as none agree with my values or beliefs. I think religious freedom is something we should "fight" for.

#ignorance

http://imgur.com/a/4Rp0c

Long time Zimbo how are things?

If you don't mind me asking, what did change? Was there a significant event or series of events?

Given the nature of this thread I feel the need to clarify that this is not a troll post to criticise Islam.

:-k

A simple 'No' would have sufficed.







Whilst I do not agree with the way the Taliban enforced the law, if you do not understand the reason for women covering up, do not continue to spout ignorance.

Keen to download mcjules' browser app so this whole thread will be fucking blank.

It's all about preaching to the converted now.
The thing with the Left is that even if you disagree on anything that is even within a fraction ...you are categorised as a ultra nationalist extremist that is racist or bigoted .
No such thing as a grey area for this mob

Edited by Socawho: 26/5/2016 12:38:43 AM

Discussion will die in this section of the forum as pinkos and righties become segregated due to the new plugin.
Typical of the pinkos to mute opinion they dont agree with or more accurately cannot provide a reasoned response to.
In my short time here one thing I've observed is the pinko faction seem to be quite aggressive with their language.
Its sad we cannot settle differences with reasoned debate.

It also applies to the LBGT community as well, but its members aren't forced to wear a hijab...

...but instead stoned to death or forced to jump off buildings..something along these lines

It's like that is it?

As opposed to your deflection and obfuscation? :roll:

Back on topic, do we really want to become an Islamic country?
Worldwide statistical trends suggest that wherever Islam takes root it outgrows all other religions and eventually dominates.
Do we want this?

A simple 'yes' or 'no' shall suffice then we can avoid any arguments.