The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


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paulbagzFC wrote:
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Although the coalition will probably form outright government its not to cut and dry. While the postal vote is heavily favouring the libs, last election the absentee vote, which is yet to be counted, seemed to favour labor. I dunno if that was an incumbency thing but even though the libs will probably take over labor in a few seats over the next few days, Labor could claw them back through the absentee vote. i predict they'll end up with 77 seats.


It is taking far too long for this election to be decided. Playing havoc with the stock market :(



yeah also playing havoc with getting projects started, everyone is sitting on their hands.......i have close to a million $ of work on the books that is on hold......if the ALP win the projects will evaporate......


If you need someone to look after your telecommunications PM me ;)


Better not be using NBN rusty.

-PB


I'm stoked the coalition NBN is finally going to be almost finished under the Coalition. In three years Malcolm will be able to boast about 90%+ of Australians being connected to NBN thanks for HFC and FTTN. The only thing Labor have been able to achieve in regards to NBN is cost blow outs and delays.

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You're unlucky that I'm very busy today rusty otherwise I might have taken your lame bait :lol:

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
You're unlucky that I'm very busy today rusty otherwise I might have taken your lame bait :lol:


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mcjules wrote:
You're unlucky that I'm very busy today rusty otherwise I might have taken your lame bait :lol:


The fact is the NBN is going to be almost complete in three years. If Labor got back in they would've pushed it back out to 2023 or longer, which would be nearly 20 years since Rudd announce it. On the contrary the Libs have proved that FTTN can be designed and implemented in about 6 years, a fantastic, marvelous effort by our supreme leader.
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I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.
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rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


Ha ha ha ha if you want to troll, you need to be a pinch more subtle than that!

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AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


Ha ha ha ha if you want to troll, you need to be a pinch more subtle than that!

Edited by Azzamarch: 8/7/2016 01:40:27 PM


There's nothing subtle about the truth.
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rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


How can YOU say THAT if they haven't ANNOUNCED the Senate sets YET?!

Wouldn't THAT be a bit SILLY to think THAT they WOULD have the ability to PASS legislation EASILY?!

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


How can YOU say THAT if they haven't ANNOUNCED the Senate sets YET?!

Wouldn't THAT be a bit SILLY to think THAT they WOULD have the ability to PASS legislation EASILY?!

-PB


Wouldn't it be great if the LNP were actually beholden to the Double Dissolution parameters and forced to take the ABCC legislation to the senate before anything else.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


How can YOU say THAT if they haven't ANNOUNCED the Senate sets YET?!

Wouldn't THAT be a bit SILLY to think THAT they WOULD have the ability to PASS legislation EASILY?!

-PB


I never said it would be easy, just the liberals won the election. It's now shaping up to be a decisive victory, in the back of postal votes.
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Decisive victories generally don't take a week to determine.
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notorganic wrote:
Decisive victories generally don't take a week to determine.


The decisiveness of the result is based on the # votes, not how long it takes AEC to open envelopes.
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And if it were actually decisive, it wouldn't rely on the speed of the AEC opening envelopes.
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notorganic wrote:
And if it were actually decisive, it wouldn't rely on the speed of the AEC opening envelopes.


Apparently it would
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rusty wrote:
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And if it were actually decisive, it wouldn't rely on the speed of the AEC opening envelopes.


Apparently it would


lol nah.

You're clueless.


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A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.
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rusty wrote:
A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.


You are a terrible troll. At least try and peddle stories that are vaguely plausible.

A 10 seat margin is exceedingly small, and historically relatively rare.
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Exceedingly small would be a hung parliament. The coalition have won the election in absolute terms. Winning is winning.
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AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.


You are a terrible troll. At least try and peddle stories that are vaguely plausible.

A 10 seat margin is exceedingly small, and historically relatively rare.
I'm out in terms of taking the bait.

We're at a stage now where the result can only be better than my expectations before voting started. The Liberal party are at a crossroads they either:
1. succumb to the crazies to the right of their party and get absolutely smashed next election
2. move more to the centre and actually be palatable.

I'd be happy with either.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.


You are a terrible troll. At least try and peddle stories that are vaguely plausible.

A 10 seat margin is exceedingly small, and historically relatively rare.
I'm out in terms of taking the bait.

We're at a stage now where the result can only be better than my expectations before voting started. The Liberal party are at a crossroads they either:
1. succumb to the crazies to the right of their party and get absolutely smashed next election
2. move more to the centre and actually be palatable.

I'd be happy with either.


Why would it be a given that they would get "absolutely smashed" at the next election ? Many argue that Turnbull has already succumbed to the right, that he has no vision on climate change, refugees and gay marriage. Yet he just won an election, despite no change on these issues relative to his precedecor. On the contrary Shorten might succumb to the left, and end up advocating for a carbon tax, or reopening the borders, given the increase representation of Labor left now admitted to the parliament.
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mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.


You are a terrible troll. At least try and peddle stories that are vaguely plausible.

A 10 seat margin is exceedingly small, and historically relatively rare.
I'm out in terms of taking the bait.

We're at a stage now where the result can only be better than my expectations before voting started. The Liberal party are at a crossroads they either:
1. succumb to the crazies to the right of their party and get absolutely smashed next election
2. move more to the centre and actually be palatable.

I'd be happy with either.

The Right have their crazies ...so do the Left.
thought I'd let you in on that fact:lol:
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rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


Yep Homosexual marriage is dead and buried
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AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


Ha ha ha ha if you want to troll, you need to be a pinch more subtle than that!

Edited by Azzamarch: 8/7/2016 01:40:27 PM


To quote what a player said in a game I reffed in (the score was 11-2)

When one of the players on the losing team made a late challenge on a player playing on the side that was winning, he said: "I cant believe youre still trying"

Labor lost, give it up
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Condemned666 wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


Ha ha ha ha if you want to troll, you need to be a pinch more subtle than that!

Edited by Azzamarch: 8/7/2016 01:40:27 PM


To quote what a player said in a game I reffed in (the score was 11-2)

When one of the players on the losing team made a late challenge on a player playing on the side that was winning, he said: "I cant believe youre still trying"

Labor lost, give it up


Implying that this is anyway resembling an 11-2 defeat.


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SocaWho wrote:
mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.


You are a terrible troll. At least try and peddle stories that are vaguely plausible.

A 10 seat margin is exceedingly small, and historically relatively rare.
I'm out in terms of taking the bait.

We're at a stage now where the result can only be better than my expectations before voting started. The Liberal party are at a crossroads they either:
1. succumb to the crazies to the right of their party and get absolutely smashed next election
2. move more to the centre and actually be palatable.

I'd be happy with either.

The Right have their crazies ...so do the Left.
thought I'd let you in on that fact:lol:
Name the ones that are in the parliamentary Labor party.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
You're unlucky that I'm very busy today rusty otherwise I might have taken your lame bait :lol:


There is another argument. It appears that the take up rate on 100Mbps is very low in the areas where FTTN is available.

So why spend the taxpayer's money on something that is not widely required?

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rusty wrote:
mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
rusty wrote:
A margin of 10 seats is pretty decisive. A bit of a smack down you might say.


You are a terrible troll. At least try and peddle stories that are vaguely plausible.

A 10 seat margin is exceedingly small, and historically relatively rare.
I'm out in terms of taking the bait.

We're at a stage now where the result can only be better than my expectations before voting started. The Liberal party are at a crossroads they either:
1. succumb to the crazies to the right of their party and get absolutely smashed next election
2. move more to the centre and actually be palatable.

I'd be happy with either.


Why would it be a given that they would get "absolutely smashed" at the next election ? Many argue that Turnbull has already succumbed to the right, that he has no vision on climate change, refugees and gay marriage. Yet he just won an election, despite no change on these issues relative to his precedecor. On the contrary Shorten might succumb to the left, and end up advocating for a carbon tax, or reopening the borders, given the increase representation of Labor left now admitted to the parliament.


Turnbull hasn't succumbed. He has actually undermined and silenced them which is why, despite Abbott's best efforts in the campaign, many conservative Liberal voters decided to cast their vote for Liberal Democrats, One nation, Christian Democrats, Darren Hynch and some others.

My prediction is that the revolving PM phenomena will continue in this term as cross bench and senate bill instability and hostility cast doubt over the effectiveness of the Turnbull Government. This will have dire consequences in the regular media polls. The Conservatives will be waiting for the right numbers, to place a great big knife between Turnbull's 2 shoulder blades.

We may still see Abbott back as PM and taking the Liberals to the next election which I believe will be in less than 2 years time. I also believe Abbott will win back many seats in Western Sydney.
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Out of interest, do you vape Aikhme?

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BETHFC wrote:
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rusty wrote:
Although the coalition will probably form outright government its not to cut and dry. While the postal vote is heavily favouring the libs, last election the absentee vote, which is yet to be counted, seemed to favour labor. I dunno if that was an incumbency thing but even though the libs will probably take over labor in a few seats over the next few days, Labor could claw them back through the absentee vote. i predict they'll end up with 77 seats.


It is taking far too long for this election to be decided. Playing havoc with the stock market :(



yeah also playing havoc with getting projects started, everyone is sitting on their hands.......i have close to a million $ of work on the books that is on hold......if the ALP win the projects will evaporate......


My directors are also fearful of the ALP.

As much as they pretend to be kings of infrastructure, confidence goes down the toilet when they're in power. The company I work for have suffered since Campbell Newman got the boot in the state election.

I have no idea why that is.


Lack of confidence i would suggest......same here in NSW things are going along lovely now we have Baird in, huge boost for my business, we are up about between $50- $80k a month since he got in.....they push the buttons on the infrastructure builds and confidence is up in NSW....

as experience tells us Labor can't really implement huge projects, have the ideas but just can't implement them accurately.....
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rusty wrote:
I guess we can now safely announce that Coalition have WON the election. The flip side of this is Labor LOST the election, which they campaigned on the back of a lie, and have NO mandate for any of their policies they took the election, and alternative PM Shorten was comprehensively rebuffed even despite his lies and strong campaign.

I think the next three years will be successful for the government. They will get their childcare reforms through, ABCC legislation, small company tax cuts, innovation policies, etc, and Australia can look forward to stability and economic growth.

I repeat, Liberal have WON the election, they have DEFEATED Labor, and that my friends is that.


Funny thing is no media outlets are banging on about the second worst election performance for a Labor party.!?!?!?!?!

was only close do to the lies and deceit propagated by a a low life union thug, should be made accountable for such underhanded behavior... disgracefull
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