Justafan
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COE is money well spent.
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HeyItsRobbie
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Justafan wrote:COE is money well spent. fixed
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tsf
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Viet Guy wrote: Player still has to play game on field.
Is that you Enzo?
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tsf
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tsf wrote:Dude in the long hair is doing well considering it's his first game of football in his life
Edited by tsf: 12/7/2016 07:24:53 PM they took him off :cry:
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HeyItsRobbie
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tsf wrote:tsf wrote:Dude in the long hair is doing well considering it's his first game of football in his life
Edited by tsf: 12/7/2016 07:24:53 PM they took him off :cry: lol why reply to yourself lol
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tsf
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HeyItsRobbie wrote:tsf wrote:tsf wrote:Dude in the long hair is doing well considering it's his first game of football in his life
Edited by tsf: 12/7/2016 07:24:53 PM they took him off :cry: lol why reply to yourself lol The only other person here was the Viet multi :cry:
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HeyItsRobbie
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Viet Guy wrote:Aussie have no striker? They dont shoot? its the vidmar trait :lol:
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playmaker11
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That was hilarious. I don't even feel disappointed.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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HeyItsRobbie
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so much for my 2-1 prediction
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playmaker11 wrote:That was hilarious. I don't even feel disappointed. i was actually laughing when they scored their 3rd
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eldorado
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My emotion was also laughter, plus an uncontrollable desire to kick Vidmar in the balls...
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HeyItsRobbie
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eldorado wrote:My emotion was also laughter, plus an uncontrollable desire to kick Vidmar in the balls... LOL and people say asians cant score goals. look at our u16 team.
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Ds98
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Kaison Vidmar?
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How bad do youth performances have to be until someone examines the existing NTC and hits control alt del?
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tsf
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Viet Guy wrote:Well play Aussie. It was a good game, Australian fight hard but today Vietnam football too strong more skills and technics. Thanks for the link guy. Please, just be normal. You spell perfect but by some miracle write in a style of how you perceive Asians to speak?
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tsf wrote:Viet Guy wrote:Well play Aussie. It was a good game, Australian fight hard but today Vietnam football too strong more skills and technics. Thanks for the link guy. Please, just be normal. You spell perfect but by some miracle write in a style of how you perceive Asians to speak? Like tardtho.
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playmaker11
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Viet Guy wrote:Well play Aussie. It was a good game, Australian fight hard but today Vietnam football too strong more skills and technics. Thanks for the link guy. You're welcome. See you in the third round of wor... wait nevermind.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Barca4Life
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Surely this is a wake up for the FFA to do something about our youth and perhaps in general grassroots game.
Because it ain't changing any time soon till we see some decent talent through.
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hmmm this was surprising, the youth from the last AFF tournament looked stronger individually and had some creativity in the final third as well as finally showing some decent finishing. Results aside it looked very very promising. in this game we had a couple of skillful players and the rest looked about the same level as the team that lost 5-1 to vietnam 4 years ago the good news is that vietnamese team went nowhere whereas the aussie team look ok four years on. the bad news is this performance was much weaker than the last aff team. Why? The youth we have producing have been ok and there was reason to hope for a jump in quality based on the last batch at the aff I know 12 players were missing. But do we only have 14 skillful players at that age in the country?
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For those on the forum that work with the NTC I have a question
both here and at the recent u17 world cup we let the opposition consistently create overloads in every part of the pitch. Most of the game is played with 1 or 2 aussies against 4-5 opposition players. Now you will then sometimes see some impressive skills to complete a pass or take on a few players but it won't be consequential because high risks are being taken in meaningless parts of the pitch
Is this just poor coaching or is there a logic to this - not worry about the tactics (how to create overloads in attack and defence) until later ages because you are focusing solely on technique
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Barca4Life
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grazorblade wrote:hmmm this was surprising, the youth from the last AFF tournament looked stronger individually and had some creativity in the final third as well as finally showing some decent finishing. Results aside it looked very very promising. in this game we had a couple of skillful players and the rest looked about the same level as the team that lost 5-1 to vietnam 4 years ago the good news is that vietnamese team went nowhere whereas the aussie team look ok four years on. the bad news is this performance was much weaker than the last aff team. Why? The youth we have producing have been ok and there was reason to hope for a jump in quality based on the last batch at the aff I know 12 players were missing. But do we only have 14 skillful players at that age in the country? We all agreed that the group last year looked quite exciting out hopes were up and now gone. :-s I wonder why?
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grazorblade
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also why isn't finishing improving much? In roughly the 75th minute of the game there was a straightforward chance on goal where if the striker pushes it across the keeper its a goal but it got blasted into the sky the last aff team looked promising in this area also a couple of lovely balls to the striker were ruined by a poor first touch by the striker - something that wouldnt have happened to the last aff team
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Barca4Life wrote:grazorblade wrote:hmmm this was surprising, the youth from the last AFF tournament looked stronger individually and had some creativity in the final third as well as finally showing some decent finishing. Results aside it looked very very promising. in this game we had a couple of skillful players and the rest looked about the same level as the team that lost 5-1 to vietnam 4 years ago the good news is that vietnamese team went nowhere whereas the aussie team look ok four years on. the bad news is this performance was much weaker than the last aff team. Why? The youth we have producing have been ok and there was reason to hope for a jump in quality based on the last batch at the aff I know 12 players were missing. But do we only have 14 skillful players at that age in the country? We all agreed that the group last year looked quite exciting out hopes were up and now gone. :-s I wonder why? Clivesundies said the 12 best players were missing from this years aff but if thats the case that means that at best we are producing 14 or so skillful players (i saw a couple today. Both holding mids I think but will have to watch the replay) and the rest about the same level as 4 years ago Even if I buy that, that raises more questions than answers :-k
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quickflick wrote:grazorblade wrote:in principle its ok to have any style at senior level and have youth style designed to optimize technical development rather than results
but at the moment at senior level we have ange who is an excellent coach and plays a proactive style
what would be the point of ange playing a style that doesnt come naturally to him when at best a reactive style gets similar results at senior level grazorbladeClassic false dichotomy. It's not an either proactive or reactive scenario. The best way to go about things lies somewhere in between and Ange will hardly be compromising his style. How many goals did France score? They didn't play as proactive a style as Germany did. Why must we mimic what Germany do when we haven't the players to do this? Until we have the players, why can't we just aim for something which has slightly more defensive stability but still more than enough attack. It's not a choice between building a bus depot and throwing the kitchen sink at the opponent all the time. not a false dichotomy to say Ange should coach how he knows best for the national team if we have poppa he can coach how he knows best for the national team also our back four isn't particularly strong on paper at the moment so if we concede posession for the national team we are playing to our weaknesses and exposing them to more pressure
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Viet Guy wrote:Well play Aussie. It was a good game, Australian fight hard but today Vietnam football too strong more skills and technics. Thanks for the link guy. Congratulations, maybe you guys will be able to achieve something in mens tournaments one day.
Beaten by Eldar
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Barca4Life wrote:Surely this is a wake up for the FFA to do something about our youth and perhaps in general grassroots game.
Because it ain't changing any time soon till we see some decent talent through. Blah blah blah. When I was suggesting parts of the NC needed changing and that certain aspects were being concentrated on to the detriment of other aspects you and your sycophant mates were crapping on saying everything was sunshine and lollipops. Chickens have well and truly come home to roost. What a farce. I hope our triangling was off the charts though.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Surely this is a wake up for the FFA to do something about our youth and perhaps in general grassroots game.
Because it ain't changing any time soon till we see some decent talent through. Blah blah blah. When I was suggesting parts of the NC needed changing and that certain aspects were being concentrated on to the detriment of other aspects you and your sycophant mates were crapping on saying everything was sunshine and lollipops. Chickens have well and truly come home to roost. What a farce. I hope our triangling was off the charts though. to be fair the suggestions you made weren't particularly compelling. Not that you don't have a right to an opinion but it is easy to say something is wrong but trickier to say what or why The obvious problems are 1. defensive organization 2. fitness 3. not creating overloads 4. finishing 5. creativity in the final third I buy that the first 2 can be learnt at senior level. I'm curious what the philosophy with the third is. The fourth and 5th looked to have improved dramatically last AFF. Questions need to be asked what happened? Clivesundies said 12 of the best are missing from this tournament but its hard to imagine that only 12 players are as good as the last aff and the rest are about the same quality youth we have produced for the previous half dozen years
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Munrubenmuz wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Surely this is a wake up for the FFA to do something about our youth and perhaps in general grassroots game.
Because it ain't changing any time soon till we see some decent talent through. Blah blah blah. When I was suggesting parts of the NC needed changing and that certain aspects were being concentrated on to the detriment of other aspects you and your sycophant mates were crapping on saying everything was sunshine and lollipops. Chickens have well and truly come home to roost. What a farce. I hope our triangling was off the charts though. What about our lace-out passes?
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Ever since I saw a bunch of Dutch blokes at Sydney airport about 10 years ago with pockets full of cash I've feared this time will come...
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grazorblade wrote:not a false dichotomy to say Ange should coach how he knows best for the national team C'mon, grazorblade, you can think as critically and analytically as anybody. It's lazy just to say Ange knows best. It's a false dichotomy to say that we either have to play in a wholly proactive style or in a very reactive style. There are hybrids, as you're probably well aware. France made the final of the European Championship using a hybrid. Wales made the semi-final using a hybrid. The false dichotomy is to suggest that it's either throw the kitchen sink at the opponent (as Ange wants to do, like the Germans do) or build a bus depot around the goal. Ange needs to find that happy medium.
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