Yes im well aware Labors obsession with winning the battle of tokenism and preferring temporary feel good policy that shines a light on their glorious morality than policy that works. No doubt they'll soon be campaigning for a quota of transvestites in parliament and on company boards.

No there isn't. Only you did.

It reminds me of another time. Makes you wonder.

We already punt foreign nationals who are convicted of crimes and sentenced to more than a year in jail. There are heaps of kiwis and brits at Villawood and Christmas Island awaiting deportation.

Go back and read the thread more carefully then.

Now yo talking

Do you prefer for things to keep going the way it is...
Pretty easy when you live in an area where you are quite safe from where these things are happening.
You are not the one boring the externality of failed cultural integration


Edited by Socawho: 15/7/2016 01:27:35 PM

good god these cnn panellists are basically blaming France, and one going so far as to say we should not call it an islamic terrorist attack. Takes some Ex-CIA to tell them straight.



Edited by iridium1010: 15/7/2016 01:27:14 PM

Touche

I love that everything is strawman on 442
No room for a bit of satire here.
I guess people keep forgetting this is where real solutions will be achieved.

If you're seriously going to fix the world, ask a half dozen football fans

Took you long enough. ;)

The answer is no, I don't want things to keep going the way they are. I think "ban all muslim immigration" is being far too simplistic. It might be part of the solution, but no one can put that convincing an argument together as to why.

They're scared. It's basically stockholm syndrome,if they suck up to and make excuses for the perpetrators they feel they will be less targeted.

You're the only one ruling out any solution to the problem based on what you just said

If a panel of ex-socceroo captains can fix the national team, why can't we fix the world?

My parents came from overseas, had no money, left after war etc etc

Theirs and 100s thousands that come here reaction was the same - times were tough and they worked hard and became a success.

Apparently now if you don't hand these fuckheads everything than it's their natural reaction to massacre as many people as possible because 'they feel excluded from society'.

Enough is enough, time for drastic action.

I haven't actually ruled it out I'm challenging the idea that it'll make things better. Convince me.

I dont think we should ban all Muslim immigration, but I dont think its racist to preference those who speak better English and have a better chance of integrating. After all immigration is about what they can do for us rather than what we can do for them.

I think we should apply more stringent standards to Muslim immigrants, preference those who have better language skills and questionnaire them based on their attitudes to the west, homosexuals, Jews, Christians, the US, terrorist groups like isis, etc to better weed out those who might be vulnerable to radicalisation.

We should also be prepared to repatriate anybody who is guilty of financing terrorism, supporting terrorism and /or plotting terrorism.

"Mia Bloom" on CNN is absoloutely disgraceful for saying westerners are not being targetted. "Buck Sexton" being yelled at by her.

There's no point..Nothing will convince you.
If you still need convincing based on the accumulation of the terror attacks in Europe then it just seems to me that you don't really factor in the safety of human life into your reasoning ...
In fact I think your mind is already made up...that 100 percent immigration and open borders is the only answer



Edited by Socawho: 15/7/2016 01:46:26 PM

Australian immigration exam.

With regards to you attitudes about homosexual how do you feel?

(a) at ease, they're free to do what they want
(b) burn and stone them.

How many mulsims do you think are going to answer (b)?

Testing them is way off the mark. That'll never work. Everyone knows what you are supposed to say. What you think is another matter entirely.

Now now, you can stop being ridiculous right there.

It is a proven economic fact, that migrants actually stimulate the economy in construction, and other consumer areas.

The issue is still about radical Islam so stop trying to deflect.

No that's not racist. You do actually have to pass some English tests to get a skilled migration visa (and to study) but I don't think they're stringent enough. For family migration visas it's more complicated but they shouldn't be an issue if the family already here are "integrated". Humanitarian visas you can't expect anything from those.

How would that work? We can't read people's minds and they can say whatever they think we want them to say.

I agree but if they don't have dual citizenship getting another country to accept them would be exceedingly difficult.

World population is growing faster than they're knocking it off.

Nothing to worry about. The human race will survive.

So many thrown around by the Lefties you mean.

We know there is an issue. First it needs to be contained.

Do we get any reasonable arguments from you lot or just straw man sensationalist hubris?

None of those statements are correct...

You would be containing even more Disenfranchised young Muslims who simply can't or are unwilling to integrate.

Yes, all in due time, and we will have a bunch of crossdressers in Parliament too.

Perhaps, but you wouldn't necessarily frame the question that way. For example you could frame it as something like:

With regards to you attitudes about homosexual how do you feel?

a) they are entitled to the same rights as everybody else
b) the law should prevent homosexuality

They are more likely to give an honest answer this way.
Of course questionnaire alone isnt going to weed out all the evil doers, its just one of the tools to give us greater control over our immigration outcomes.