Pauline Hanson is set to get even more popular.

I'm not going to re-argue about why I think you are wrong about Australia granting "humanitarian visas to people who want to piss on our democracy".

But in regards to her popularity, I think you are wrong too. For 2 reasons.

- There are already multiple "anti-muslim" or "anti-sharia" parties. Why didn't they get more votes?
- She got popular in the 1990s based on fear of Asians. That had nothing to do with islam.

So there is something about her ability to tap into people's fears. But she is so incoherent, I don't get why it is her.

Last thing I watched was her appearance on a Sky News forum in Tweed Heads and she spoke clearly about issues. On the other hand, the ALP and LNP candidates went on and on and on. Whether her policies have any substance or not is a different storey.

But it's true. It's not just the terrorist sympathisers, it's also the people who want to adopt shariah law and mandate corporal punishment for adulterers, homosexuals and apostates. After all this is what Islam dictates, and the more serious you practice Islam the more seriously you believe in these things that are fundamentally at odds with democracy and our values. It's not like people who were brought up in fundamentalist regimes go "oops, im Australia now, I better start liking gays and abandoning my beliefs". When you import Muslims you also import their ideology.

Which parties were those?

-PB

Off the top of my head - Fed Nile's party, Rise Up Australia Party, and the Secular Party (although they are against all religion on the grounds of irrationality of belief, rather than specific issues with islam).

Jacquie Lambie from memory has some anti-islam stuff in her platform, then you have the good old Citizens Electoral Council and Family First. I presume these 2 have anti-islam policies, but I must admit I don't know for a fact. They just have history. there is also a party called "Australian Christians". You can assume they would have some anti-islam stuff as well.

Anyway, that is all I could think of off the top of my head.

Lambie's against Sharia Law

There's also the Australian Liberty Alliance ( mostly ex Servicemen started it up I think)

This is exactly why there is a backlash against the left. Many people have had enough of the smug, "I know what's good for everyone" attitude, at the same time playing the man and never the ball when a counter view is expressed.

Huh? You do realise the liberal party lost votes, not the ALP, right?

More like "I know what's good for everyone" attitude yet bad shit keeps happening :lol:

-PB

Complains leftys simplify thier opposition. Proceeds to simplify all Leftys.

To paraphrase one of my favourite pro wrestlers - Enzo Amore:

"If I had a dime for every thread that DID NOT degenerate into stupidity, I would have....... ZERO DIMES!"

Correct, we are just pointing out the double standards of the left

Can you believe it? Some warped school has banned clapping, as it might offend some wuss bag kid sensitive to noise. This on the same day that an all girls school has now banned the words ladies and girls to refer to students. What the fuck is going on ? Fucking leftards and their PC terrorism.

Source? Not that i don't believe you, just interested to know the story!

News.com.au

Do you want brain cancer? Cos that's how you get brain cancer.

Its the best site for outrage fodder

Do people here relate to this? I guess many of you would be in the situation of saving, or paying off your first mortgage, or have prices gone too high?
It seems like retired people need to be encouraged to invest other ways. There would be more benefit if their savings flowed into infrastructure based projects, instead of renting to young workers.

One unspoken issue when it comes to housing is how much the local and state government get per developed lots. Some of their bonds and charges are extortionate.

Edited by bethfc: 20/7/2016 08:02:30 PM

^^ Look up land banking if you want an eye opener as to why land is so expensive in a place as fucking huge as Australia.

This is just one reason why we should consider a land tax.

Enzo thinks this is of course full scale communism at work by 'leftards' but it would encourage land to be developed and sold quicker and would drive prices down.

Agree 100%.

Our tax system encourages people to accumulate investment properties.

I think we need to adjust the system so that the encouragement is focussed on enabling people to buy a primary residence, and building new housing stock rather than buying existing stock as investments.

Oh indeed, I just mentioned the council/government charges for developers because i'd wager a lot of people don't know just how large these costs are. We get them in my line of work as the developer sends us the entire council package because they usually can't be bothered cutting out the parts relevant to us.

What you're saying makes sense though. Drive into any new estate and most of the lots are sold to investors before they even start earthworks. What that does is drive up the prices of the remainder pricing out prospective/owner occupiers. This is also a tactic of developers. Example is a golf course fronting development. They will sell everything except for the lots with golf course views first to drive up the prices of the 'better' lots.

Edited by bethfc: 21/7/2016 09:14:05 AM

Well well well... Newscorp publishing a false story????

Hush your mouth, I don't believe it!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/20/teachers-at-sydney-high-school-never-told-to-use-gender-neutral-language

Can't believe I am saying this, but "good on you Barnaby!"

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/20/barnaby-joyce-rejects-pauline-hansons-policies-saying-every-religion-has-ratbags

"A strong Catholic, Joyce rejected the idea – put forward by Hanson and more recently television celebrity Sonia Kruger – of a ban on Muslim immigration.

“Why? Because of a person’s religion? What happens when you turn that on its head and you start banning people because they are Catholics or because they are Protestants or because they Jewish,” Joyce said.

“I’m not into banning people on the premise of their belief. How they see their god is completely and utterly their own personal reason. It’s up to them how they practise their religion.

“It’s up to them, as long as it doesn’t affect me, its their private discussion with the almighty. I’m not here to tell them what they should or shouldn’t believe.”

Joyce used the example of Labor MP and Muslim Ed Husic, whom he described as a “decent man”. "

Well said Barnaby.

Banning muslim immigration serves no purpose when most recent terror attacks across the world have been from 2nd generation muslims already here.

As for belief, it's unconstitutional and morally wrong to try and restrict freedom of religion. I am against religion in itself but respect people's right to practice it.

I saw mention (can't remember who is was), of putting cameras in Mosques to monitor what they preach. What a ludicrous idea.

How do you know it's a false story? Are you suggested that the insider is a liar, or that the DT made that up as well? The school could have simply changed its position due to the public backlash, or perhaps the principal was overruled by the teachers, or even the state department. Assuming it's a rich school that depends on private donations as some public schools do the threat of financial loss can often quickly change people's minds.

So just to be clear you have no qualms immigrating people who may believe that homosexuality should be punishable by
death, regard non muslims as infidels, may desire a caliphate and sympathise with the perpetrators of terrorist attacks, because we need to respect their right to believe such things? How stupid can we get? I have no problem with people practicing such things but why would we want it on our soil, compared to someone who wants to join Team Australia and buy into our values and play in the mainstream? Immigration is not an obligation, we don't have to migrate anybody, so when we do it should be in the always be in the national interest.

Our addiction to free speech, free this and free, and unflappable respect for other cultures is going to be our downfall.

Or, news.com.au, the Daily Terror and Miranda Devine are just looking for sensationalist headlines to keep up flagging subscriptions. And they get to continue their agenda of undermining the Safe Schools program which her article linked to the false accusation they made.

If I was a betting man, and I am, I'd say it was far more likely that the Daily Terror is full of sh*t, as they have been caught our lying repeatedly over a wide range of issues, over a long time.

This is the same mob that published the "banned list" of football supporters, who equated football fans with "suburban terrorists", and is the home of "Bourbon Becky".

If you want to think they are a reliable news source, go right ahead.

Pesky free speech. Lets just be a police state instead. Erdogan for Aussie PM!!!