Brisbane Roar in crisis mode as players not paid


Brisbane Roar in crisis mode as players not paid

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This latest worrying turn of events comes amidst a backdrop of a dysfunctional relationship between recently appointed managing director and would-be-owner Daniel Cobb and his disaffected coach John Aloisi and football operations chief Craig Moore.

It is also an echo of last year’s sequence of late payments to players and staff, which precipitated Football Federation Australia the threatening to seize back the club's A-League license from the Indonesian-based Bakrie Group unless less payments were made in a timely fashion and a number of other outstanding debts to creditors were settled.

Last year though, players and staff were forewarned of impending late payments – wages are due on the 15th of each month.On this occasion however, it’s understood that players were shocked to discover that on Monday no money had showed up in their accounts, with no explanation forthcoming from Cobb or the Bakrie Group.The issue looked to have been resolved last October when the Bakries – who are still actively still trying to offload the club – made good on their commitments to players and a number of creditors. Since then players have been paid on time.

However, the saga saw the club lose key midfielder Luke Brattan, who won a release over unpaid superannuation.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/08/15/brisbane-roar-crisis-mode-players-not-paid



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Gallop has told them to stop being naughty. That will do it. Worked a treat last year ..,, Well until March when they weren't paid again, but when he said it again then it worked ..... err, until now that is. But hey, he's said "stop it" three times in the last year, that should be dnough shouldn't it?

How spineless are the FFA not to act. They don't deserve a team in Brisbane, they really don't!
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the sad thing is this post could have been from 5 years ago



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Swarth - 15 Aug 2016 11:35 PM
the sad thing is this post could have been from 5 years ago

 I was initially going with a title "Another Preseason. Another Roar players not being paid article"

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Is this the kultcha paulc was on about?


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J-Mac should follow Luke's example and leave. He'd at least get paid on time at Adelaide United.

For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby

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salmonfc - 16 Aug 2016 1:30 AM
J-Mac should follow Luke's example and leave. He'd at least get paid on time at Adelaide United.

Be going to Victory before shitty old Adelaide. 
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And then he...he said it was a few cash flow issues!



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Deary me - what a shamozzle
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Methinks Cobb just got told to put up or go away.  Whatever deal he's done with the Bakries is meaningless if they've got nothing to sell.  Phone will be at pawn shop this week.

Prediction: 442 to explode in sympathy with him like they did for TInkler.

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TheSelectFew - 16 Aug 2016 12:53 AM
Is this the kultcha paulc was on about?

Circus Kulccchhaaaa

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Wait a second, if this was a certain other club there would be the "kick them out" calls by now..................


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Lucky we have a salary cap

Despite clubs constantly hitting financial crisis and ownership problems, we still get all the benefits of not having big players and big teams in our league

One balances out the other




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The FFA have failed on this issue several times in the past, Gallop needs to go.

The defence of the FFA in the past has been "they can't act as long as players are getting paid" well they're not getting paid, again, so what excuse do the FFA have now?

None - they need to start the process of taking the Bakries licence back this morning.

Gallop will survive but he shouldn't, he now represents all that's wrong with football administration in this country. Spineless and disconnected from reality. Fire his arse in the afternoon and get a football person in there.
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Waz - 16 Aug 2016 7:04 AM
The FFA have failed on this issue several times in the past, Gallop needs to go. The defence of the FFA in the past has been "they can't act as long as players are getting paid" well they're not getting paid, again, so what excuse do the FFA have now?None - they need to start the process of taking the Bakries licence back this morning. Gallop will survive but he shouldn't, he now represents all that's wrong with football administration in this country. Spineless and disconnected from reality. Fire his arse in the afternoon and get a football person in there.

LOL let's go with an analogy:

How many times should the bank allow you to make a late home repayment before kicking you out?  They do have a duty to their shareholders.
Truth is it's better for the bank and the lendee to keep them in the house and make the payments.  It costs less and the profit still comes home. Everybody wins.
Second best is to find a new buyer for the home and get the owner to bear the costs and problems of selling it on. Everybody wins but the original owner loses value in the asset.
Last choice is repossession and the bank having to find a new owner and wrap up the affairs of the original.  Bank loses money and the owner gets properly screwed. Losses all round.

Same with a football club franchise.  It would be even more costly than a house repo because some high voltage lathered up lawyers would be involved.
Throw in the problem that FIFA rules prevent FFA from holding more than one club at a time and you had them in the position of having to shut down one club last year if they moved.  Newcastle Jets would have been thrown in the bin and that would have been disastrous.

The only outcome here that promises a bright and golden future for football is that a softly softly approach with a big stick works.
You blokes should be absolutely over-joyed that FFA has acted sensibly and maturely.  Ask the people of Townsville, Gold Coast and Auckland what it's like to have it all taken away.

Too fukn precious.




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The FFA need to step in and pay the players directly. It's a joke that the Roar face no sanctions. I feel sorry for the players that need to support their families.
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Sad as.

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The poor players, some of the longer serving ones must be sick of this. Another preseason, another money drama.....
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Considering we have a salary cap and that is covered by FFA payments,maybe it's time for FFA to pay players under the cap directly.
In future those paid as Marquees should at least have a bond lodged with FFA to draw from in cases of non payment.


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crimsoncrusoe - 16 Aug 2016 10:13 AM
Considering we have a salary cap and that is covered by FFA payments,maybe it's time for FFA to pay players under the cap directly.In future those paid as Marquees should be at least have a bond lodged with FFA to draw from in cases of non payment.

Exactly.  The simplest and best idea.  All clubs submit their contracts and the FFA pays them directly.  At the moment it's a double handed, paper-shuffling exercise.
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Out of interest when does the FFA distribute the TV money?
Is it one lump sum or monthly?
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Yeah, all players should just sign contracts with the FFA like in the USA. The FFA can move around players to make the league more even year to year......

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Toughlove - 16 Aug 2016 10:34 AM
crimsoncrusoe - 16 Aug 2016 10:13 AM

Exactly.  The simplest and best idea.  All clubs submit their contracts and the FFA pays them directly.  At the moment it's a double handed, paper-shuffling exercise.

Yep, excellent idea.


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So clubs should take off ca $2.5 mil in revenue off their books?
Just like that, click of the fingers.
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Cash Flow issues aye Pauly?


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SWandP - 16 Aug 2016 7:56 AM
Waz - 16 Aug 2016 7:04 AM

LOL let's go with an analogy:

How many times should the bank allow you to make a late home repayment before kicking you out?  They do have a duty to their shareholders.
Truth is it's better for the bank and the lendee to keep them in the house and make the payments.  It costs less and the profit still comes home. Everybody wins.
Second best is to find a new buyer for the home and get the owner to bear the costs and problems of selling it on. Everybody wins but the original owner loses value in the asset.
Last choice is repossession and the bank having to find a new owner and wrap up the affairs of the original.  Bank loses money and the owner gets properly screwed. Losses all round.

Same with a football club franchise.  It would be even more costly than a house repo because some high voltage lathered up lawyers would be involved.
Throw in the problem that FIFA rules prevent FFA from holding more than one club at a time and you had them in the position of having to shut down one club last year if they moved.  Newcastle Jets would have been thrown in the bin and that would have been disastrous.

The only outcome here that promises a bright and golden future for football is that a softly softly approach with a big stick works.
You blokes should be absolutely over-joyed that FFA has acted sensibly and maturely.  Ask the people of Townsville, Gold Coast and Auckland what it's like to have it all taken away.

Too fukn precious.




Bang on with your analogy but wouldn't say too precious.

Roar fans have higher expectations, imagine if these lil' ol cash flow issues distracts the team again like last season and we end up a poultry 3rd on the ladder again?

Can't happen for the big and most successful club like Brisbane Roar. We deserve better.



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Do you even support an A-League Team SWandP?








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There's nothing new in this, can any BRFC fan say they didn't expect this to happen at some point?

Cobb or Bakries or the coffee club/pizza boys - there is one consistent factor in all of this that's not the owners - and it is BRFC who despite all the success on the field and decent crowds off it, can not survive commercially. That is perhaps the question the FFA should address because it seems to me a succession of owners come in with grand plans and exit through the same door

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paulc - 16 Aug 2016 10:54 AM
SWandP - 16 Aug 2016 7:56 AM

Bang on with your analogy but wouldn't say too precious.

Roar fans have higher expectations, imagine if these lil' ol cash flow issues distracts the team again like last season and we end up a poultry 3rd on the ladder again?

Can't happen for the big and most successful club like Brisbane Roar. We deserve better.


The Analogy is not "bang on" ... if the bank ran a network of franchised homes that you live the analogy might make sense. No one really likes the FF's franchise model so its frustrating when the powers that they have under that arrangement don't get used to protect both BRFC and the HAL from all this bullshit

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