AFL to take over soccer pitches with new game


AFL to take over soccer pitches with new game

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walnuts - 9 Sep 2016 1:45 PM
SWandP - 9 Sep 2016 1:37 PM

So the question is - how do we get these kids to, if they play at club level, to stay in the system and become professional footballers or become paying customers of the A-League?

Bring rego costs down.

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-facing-legal-action-over-ownership-of-afl-x-concept-20160908-grboco.html#comments

LOL





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TheSelectFew - 9 Sep 2016 5:10 PM
Mister Football - 9 Sep 2016 3:08 PM

Fuck your dog. Its what you do best. 

It's unfair that you would make such demands of walnuts.

He is a respected poster on this board, and I would hope he does not take up your advice.
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SWandP - 9 Sep 2016 1:37 PM
bigpoppa - 9 Sep 2016 12:52 PM

I''m in southern Queensland at the moment and all I can say is it is astonishing how football is dominating the playground everywhere I go.  I was visiting a school the other day and it was both delightful and amazing to see hundreds (no I'm not exaggerating) of kids mucking about with round balls during break.  The amount of girls playing in large mixed groups was probably the most uplifting sight I have seen in years.

The other amazing thing was the quality of the flicks, moves and dribbles the kids were turning on.  There were boys there around 12 years old that would have run circles around the semi-pro half backs of 20 years ago.  It was just bloody amazing.  Better value for your money than most outings.  I would though caution, perhaps, against standing outside schools watching the kids for an hour or so each day etc..  Might upset some mums.

I can't let it go without telling of one thing I saw.  A lad received a high ball and cushioned it with his head putting it about a metre in front of him.  He skipped forward and volleyed it just above the kid in front and ran round cheekily taking it again on the volley. He put it about a metre in front of himself as he ran forward and put it into the net with a Rabona just for style points.  You'd pay to see that shit on a full field.

Maybe we are starting to see Small Sided Games in full force after the FFA introduced it back in 06. Kids that started playing at around 4 or 5 would be in their teens now and would have grown up with acquiring the skills used in SSG. 

The question is, are these kids watching the a-league at present, or plan on watching it in the next few years?

But as others have said, clubs should be pushing school visits rather than football club visits where you are almost already converting the converted.
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Mister Football - 9 Sep 2016 3:08 PM
walnuts - 9 Sep 2016 2:25 PM

Total home and away attendances have plummetted from 6.35 million in 2015 to 6.31 million in 2016.

And despite now playing more games per season than prior to GWS, crowds are still lower. 
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Davo1985 - 9 Sep 2016 5:20 PM
SWandP - 9 Sep 2016 1:37 PM

Maybe we are starting to see Small Sided Games in full force after the FFA introduced it back in 06. Kids that started playing at around 4 or 5 would be in their teens now and would have grown up with acquiring the skills used in SSG. 

The question is, are these kids watching the a-league at present, or plan on watching it in the next few years?

But as others have said, clubs should be pushing school visits rather than football club visits where you are almost already converting the converted.

That fact that we have never again been able to reach the average attendance of season 3 probably gives us the answer.
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I was curious about AFL 9s and decided to read the rules. Came across this little gem:
In mixed competitions, a goal scored by the female forward is worth 9 points

What the actual fuck?




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bluebird - 9 Sep 2016 5:24 PM
I was curious about AFL 9s and decided to read the rules. Came across this little gem:
In mixed competitions, a goal scored by the female forward is worth 9 points

What the actual fuck?

No kidding. Way to enshrine female inferiority in law.
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bluebird - 9 Sep 2016 5:24 PM
I was curious about AFL 9s and decided to read the rules. Came across this little gem:
In mixed competitions, a goal scored by the female forward is worth 9 points

What the actual fuck?

 No wonder they have had to create AFL X!
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Davo1985 - 9 Sep 2016 5:20 PM
SWandP - 9 Sep 2016 1:37 PM

Maybe we are starting to see Small Sided Games in full force after the FFA introduced it back in 06. Kids that started playing at around 4 or 5 would be in their teens now and would have grown up with acquiring the skills used in SSG. 

The question is, are these kids watching the a-league at present, or plan on watching it in the next few years?

But as others have said, clubs should be pushing school visits rather than football club visits where you are almost already converting the converted.

Something something sfc player something something 100m from a school yard

But way too many schools in each city.
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bluebird - 9 Sep 2016 5:24 PM
I was curious about AFL 9s and decided to read the rules. Came across this little gem:
In mixed competitions, a goal scored by the female forward is worth 9 points

What the actual fuck?
Its the sport of subhumans like mister afl. 


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Mister Football - 9 Sep 2016 5:23 PM
Davo1985 - 9 Sep 2016 5:20 PM

That fact that we have never again been able to reach the average attendance of season 3 probably gives us the answer.

Not really seeing as back then the kids would have been 9 years old. The effect of that should be seen in the next year or two not to mention the quality of young players coming through which at this age should be in their mid teens. Kids that are now 15 would have gone through the whole process.

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bohemia - 9 Sep 2016 5:25 PM
bluebird - 9 Sep 2016 5:24 PM

No kidding. Way to enshrine female inferiority in law.

Well, it's hardly a statute.
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bluebird - 9 Sep 2016 5:24 PM
I was curious about AFL 9s and decided to read the rules. Came across this little gem:
In mixed competitions, a goal scored by the female forward is worth 9 points

What the actual fuck?

That is common in mixed sports. In some indoor soccer competitions men aren't allowed to score. In Oztag and touch female tries are worth 2 points opposed to 1 point for a male try.
It is so that you don't have the whole game come down to a match between one or two males on either team. If you have opportunity you are always going to try to involve a female player in scoring as it is worth more.
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chillbilly - 9 Sep 2016 5:51 PM
bluebird - 9 Sep 2016 5:24 PM

That is common in mixed sports. In some indoor soccer competitions men aren't allowed to score. In Oztag and touch female tries are worth 2 points opposed to 1 point for a male try.
It is so that you don't have the whole game come down to a match between one or two males on either team. If you have opportunity you are always going to try to involve a female player in scoring as it is worth more.

This is true, in any event, AFL9s is a recreational product for the Summer months, it's not intended as being a product that can be sold to the networks.

Clearly, this 7s things is a small-sided variant with the express purpose of selling as a viewing product.  And given there isn't much live sport on TV during the Summer, and soccer pitches are available, it definitely looks like an idea worth exploring.
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Not enough facilities for soccer clubs to play on, never mind AFL X plan

Michael Lynch 

The AFL might have a fantasy about using soccer pitches to pioneer a new short form of the oval ball game, but unless millions of dollar are spent on developing new soccer infrastructure the chances of footy's governing body getting its new concept up and running are limited, according to soccer officials.

Fairfax Media revealed this week that the AFL brains trust had come up with a plan to develop a seven-a-side version of footy which could be played on a much smaller soccer pitch.

The squeeze is on: Junior soccer teams could make several training pitches out of one footy oval.
The squeeze is on: Junior soccer teams could make several training pitches out of one footy oval. 

The idea, it was said, could help popularise the sport at home and abroad because the huge ovals required to play the nine-a-side version of Australian rules didn't exist overseas.

Soccer officials on Thursday reacted with surprise to reports about the AFL concept, suggesting there simply were not enough pitches and grounds in the country to sustain existing demand from burgeoning soccer clubs, never mind footy teams hoping to muscle in on the terrain.

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"The battle for facilities is already pretty intense around the country at grass-roots level between existing codes," said Emma Highwood, the head of the FFA's community and development department.

"There is a lot of sharing that already exists between different sports who lease grounds – soccer clubs often co-exist with cricket clubs using venues in the summer months. 

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"Our clubs all have leases on grounds, but oversubscription and shortages are the biggest issue we face. There are not enough pitches and training and playing grounds to cope with the demand that soccer has already.

"There are several clubs around the country who have to turn children away who want to play because they can't service the demand. Football is growing, and we need more pitches and facilities, synthetic pitches would be ideal."

Victorian soccer administrators gave the same message – that demand for soccer pitches widely outstrips supply.

"The AFL has not been in touch with us over this but there is definitely a capacity issue already which the state government and councils are all aware of," one insider said.

The government has given the FFA money to conduct a facilities audit to show where existing demand needs to be addressed for the thousands of youngsters who already play the game but lack the facilities to do so properly.

"We have plenty of anecdotal evidence about clubs, particularly in the south-east and the west, who have to turn kids away because they just don't have anywhere to train. We had a 20 per cent growth in registered players over the last two years, there are now just over 66,000 registered players in Victoria."

Many local soccer coaches and players believe it should be the other way round – that AFL junior clubs which sometimes field only one age group side should be told by councils to share grounds with local rivals to free up their expansive ovals to junior soccer teams, who could make several training pitches out of one footy oval.

*The turmoil at the Newcastle Jets continued on Thursday afternoon when assistant coach Luciano Trani, who had been at the club less than three months, parted company with the Hunter Valley team.

Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna, the former Central Coast Mariners coach, confirmed that Trani – who worked with Melbourne City for the previous two seasons – had been let go.

On Wednesday coach Scott Miller was sacked by the A-League club over what was described as differences of football philosophy.

McKinna said the club wanted to give whoever gets the job as head coach the chance to appoint his own assistant.

Former Socceroo striker and one-time Newcastle player Clayton Zane, who is the youth team boss, has been placed in interim charge.


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AFL know their market 

https://thingsboganslike.com/tag/x/

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Michael Lynch has got things a bit wrong.

This AFL7s idea is not really about grassroots footy, junior comps, or anything like that.

It's about playing a professional comp during the Summer, precisely when soccer pitches are NOT being used.

It's a perfect fit for everyone,  and soccer officials should be enthusiastic about the AFL using the major soccer infrastructure during the summer months.
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If you don't get paid by the AFL you are stupid. If you do....
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scott21 - 14 Sep 2016 7:51 PM
If you don't get paid by the AFL you are stupid. If you do....

Who was that poster who was convinced I had been hired by the Qatar WC organising committee?  One of the charming aspects of being a regular poster here.

I tell you what - no shortage of tin foil hats on this board.
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scott21 - 14 Sep 2016 3:47 PM

Not enough facilities for soccer clubs to play on, never mind AFL X plan

Michael Lynch 

The AFL might have a fantasy about using soccer pitches to pioneer a new short form of the oval ball game, but unless millions of dollar are spent on developing new soccer infrastructure the chances of footy's governing body getting its new concept up and running are limited, according to soccer officials.

Fairfax Media revealed this week that the AFL brains trust had come up with a plan to develop a seven-a-side version of footy which could be played on a much smaller soccer pitch.

The squeeze is on: Junior soccer teams could make several training pitches out of one footy oval.
The squeeze is on: Junior soccer teams could make several training pitches out of one footy oval. 

The idea, it was said, could help popularise the sport at home and abroad because the huge ovals required to play the nine-a-side version of Australian rules didn't exist overseas.

Soccer officials on Thursday reacted with surprise to reports about the AFL concept, suggesting there simply were not enough pitches and grounds in the country to sustain existing demand from burgeoning soccer clubs, never mind footy teams hoping to muscle in on the terrain.

RELATED CONTENT

"The battle for facilities is already pretty intense around the country at grass-roots level between existing codes," said Emma Highwood, the head of the FFA's community and development department.

"There is a lot of sharing that already exists between different sports who lease grounds – soccer clubs often co-exist with cricket clubs using venues in the summer months. 

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"Our clubs all have leases on grounds, but oversubscription and shortages are the biggest issue we face. There are not enough pitches and training and playing grounds to cope with the demand that soccer has already.

"There are several clubs around the country who have to turn children away who want to play because they can't service the demand. Football is growing, and we need more pitches and facilities, synthetic pitches would be ideal."

Victorian soccer administrators gave the same message – that demand for soccer pitches widely outstrips supply.

"The AFL has not been in touch with us over this but there is definitely a capacity issue already which the state government and councils are all aware of," one insider said.

The government has given the FFA money to conduct a facilities audit to show where existing demand needs to be addressed for the thousands of youngsters who already play the game but lack the facilities to do so properly.

"We have plenty of anecdotal evidence about clubs, particularly in the south-east and the west, who have to turn kids away because they just don't have anywhere to train. We had a 20 per cent growth in registered players over the last two years, there are now just over 66,000 registered players in Victoria."

Many local soccer coaches and players believe it should be the other way round – that AFL junior clubs which sometimes field only one age group side should be told by councils to share grounds with local rivals to free up their expansive ovals to junior soccer teams, who could make several training pitches out of one footy oval.

*The turmoil at the Newcastle Jets continued on Thursday afternoon when assistant coach Luciano Trani, who had been at the club less than three months, parted company with the Hunter Valley team.

Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna, the former Central Coast Mariners coach, confirmed that Trani – who worked with Melbourne City for the previous two seasons – had been let go.

On Wednesday coach Scott Miller was sacked by the A-League club over what was described as differences of football philosophy.

McKinna said the club wanted to give whoever gets the job as head coach the chance to appoint his own assistant.

Former Socceroo striker and one-time Newcastle player Clayton Zane, who is the youth team boss, has been placed in interim charge.


They just want to phyically get in the way of football now. . Invade and occupy. Dickheads.

That coupled with the fact that they have such little belief in their flagship product, that they're clutching at straws with this ridulous idea... i actually pity them.



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Mister Football - 9 Sep 2016 5:34 PM
bohemia - 9 Sep 2016 5:25 PM

Well, it's hardly a statute.

Are FIFA laws of the game passed by both houses smart arse?
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scott21 - 14 Sep 2016 3:47 PM

They just want to phyically get in the way of football now. . Invade and occupy. Dickheads.

That coupled with the fact that they have such little belief in their flagship product, that they're clutching at straws with this ridulous idea... i actually pity them.

Would it really get in the way of soccer over the summer?
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bohemia - 14 Sep 2016 8:12 PM
Mister Football - 9 Sep 2016 5:34 PM

Are FIFA laws of the game passed by both houses smart arse?

Steady on, at this very moment we have FIFA and their Asian friends about to review the books and teach the FFA all about governance.
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Mister Football - 14 Sep 2016 8:15 PM
bohemia - 14 Sep 2016 8:12 PM

Steady on, at this very moment we have FIFA and their Asian friends about to review the books and teach the FFA all about governance.

Perhaps the AFL can take the minutes.







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"Many local soccer coaches and players believe it should be the other way round – that AFL junior clubs which sometimes field only one age group side should be told by councils to share grounds with local rivals to free up their expansive ovals to junior soccer teams, who could make several training pitches out of one footy oval."

Fucking amen! 




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Mister Football - 14 Sep 2016 8:15 PM
bohemia - 14 Sep 2016 8:12 PM

Steady on, at this very moment we have FIFA and their Asian friends about to review the books and teach the FFA all about governance.

Don't deflect wanker. Answer the question.


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AFL reveals its Twenty20 vision that can be taken to the world

THE AFL is continuing to secretly trial a Twenty20-inspired version of the game that it believes can take hold in countries across the world, including China.

AFLX is a high-octane, seven-a-side version of football played on soccer-sized grounds with quarters shortened to 10 minutes.

The concept only needs one umpire, there are no centre bounces and the game is restarted with a kick in from full-back after each goal.

Port Adelaide chairman David Koch believes AFLX is ideal to help their push into China.

Koch said there were already 14 Chinese schools playing an AFL competition in Shanghai.

“We’ve had Auskick and AFL approved by the Chinese education department in Beijing to be an approved sport to play at school,” he said.

“So they’re massive steps forward for us to try the game up there. But it’s all about the field and that’s why sevens is a way better option.”


David Koch’s Port Adelaide will play Gold Coast in Shanghai for premiership points. Picture: Glenn Hampson
AFL general manager of game development Simon Lethlean told the Sunday Herald Sun they have had two trials, one involving North Melbourne at Arden St last month, with a third to be held in the next two weeks.

But Lethlean said AFLX was still some time away from being rolled out in public.

“We got some great feedback from the Kangaroos about some of the rules and what they enjoyed,” he said.

“We’re going to trial a few more things to bed down how we think the game looks and feels and then the next plan after that is to work out when we’re going to roll it out in some competitive fashion.”

Koch said Port Adelaide’s Round 8 clash with the Gold Coast Suns in Shanghai on Sunday, May 14 was being played on an old golf driving range.

“You can’t find big grass areas in China,” he said.

“There are lots of soccer pitches and there’s a massive move in China to win the soccer World Cup in the late 2020s so they’re building all these soccer stadiums over there.

“It (AFLX) is certainly the way to take the game overseas, to play on rectangular fields so it makes absolute sense to do it.”


AFL general manager of game development Simon Lethlean.
A source who was involved in one of the AFLX trials said while he had been sceptical, the concept could take off overseas.

“It’s fast-paced, high scoring. It’s just go, go, go,” the source said.

“All the best aspects of the game remain. You could see schools in China making it part of their curriculum where they’ve got soccer pitches. It actually has a little bit of merit.”

Lethlean said while AFLX had been developed for an international audience it could also feature on the domestic sporting calendar.

“Whether there’s a domestic opportunity here for us to have AFL clubs or others competing in an AFL Express type competition or round robin or in some sort of pre-season environment or we have an exhibition game with the best 20 players in Australia, who knows,” he said.

“Any time you can get the best players playing in a different, fun format, I think it’s shown it can be successful in other sports and we think our product’s as good as everyone’s so we’re trying to find different ways and options to play.”

Legendary coach Kevin Sheedy said he always enjoyed the promotion of AFL internationally.

“As I said previously at the AFL conference, we haven’t really broken away from Australia yet,” Sheedy said.

“We haven’t earnt one euro, one yen, one US dollar out of any other country. So it’s good to see that we’re going to start now.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-reveals-its-twenty20-vision-that-can-be-taken-to-the-world/news-story/549181c5574f9770eed8e2b84b3fd0f6

No Olympics no chance.

China is investing heavily in Union. They also have a domestic team in the KHL.

AFL are just doing more media to get Australians used to the idea. This is about running AFL comps 52 weeks a year in Australia.

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