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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThe boys did pretty well, looked very good particularly in the first half. Love the possession game we are imposing. When you played NSL football, how much were you coached on playing diagonal balls and playing in triangles and diamonds? He never played NSL In any case it's a ridiculous question. I can assure the Tasmanian under 9's coach that 30 years ago it was not all hoof it up the field and huff and puff. One of the coaches I had in the 80's was a former Dutch international. There were also former Yugoslav, Italian and other countries represented in the coaching ranks in the competition I played in above and below the division I was in. My father played in the 60's in a semi-professional setup (once representing NSW and offered a contract to the then Adelaide City) who's team was a virtual united nations of Dutchmen, Hungarians, Slovaks, Yugoslavs, Italians and others. (Such was the quality of the side they regularly made the final stages of the then 'Champions of Champions' competition despite being a country based side.) To assert, as bozo does constantly, that these teams and the teams they played never had a clue about body shape, diagonal balls, transitioning and possession based football is ludicrous in the extreme. (To say these are new developments in football is beyond a joke and a slap in the face to anyone that played in the past.) I doubt in a white as snow anglo backwater the Tasmanian resided in in the 60's, 70's and 80's there was anything even approaching the level of coaching and football acumen that was present in NSW during the same time. It makes no difference to the KNVB accredited clown though. No amount of evidence will open his eyes. Well said. Maybe. There's a lot of nostalgia that creeps in when reviewing what happened 50 years. Take the 7-3 Madrid Frankfurt game. In my youth others my Dad's age often touted it as the best ever club performance by Madrid. Watch it again and and reality is rather different. My father often talked about the 1974 World Cup and how good the total football of the Dutch was- he watched again 2 years ago and couldn't believe how slow, and how average by today's standards the players skills were. The skills may have been present 50 years, but they were not present across all players and across all teams and certainly were not as fast or precisely executed. The above is a red herring and a strawman but nethertheless there's no doubt that there are better athletes today than there were 50 (or even 20) years ago. Sport (all sport) has improved immeasurably since then. (Watch a rugby league game from the 70's or 80's for an example.) That does not negate the fact that players were somehow clueless clowns who had no idea how to play except kick and chase. Your example regarding your father above was probably true at the time because the future hadn't yet existed and up until that point it was an example of the pinnacle of how the game should (or could) be played. It's no wonder the skills are better and faster now than then if you think about the money, the sheer number of players in the football pyramid, sports science, full time professionalism, physiotherapy, the reach of clubs to pluck players out of obscurity, the pathways, the academies and on and on. My beef is with idiocy of the OP who constantly asserts footballing knowledge only came into existence from on high with the handing down from the mount of the NC. The OP will make some trite comment in a minute trivialising this contribution or pretending to not have read it. The man is a condescending narcissist of the highest order and loves the sound of his own voice. He'll have read every word. Decentric, "One bloke who was a former Soccer Australia coach educator in Tassie and WA, and one of the most successful coaches in Tassie history, has found the new methodology too complex to learn and grasp, let alone apply it on the training ground. Another former NSL coach I know has been gobsmacked at the changes in methodology too. " I am struggling a little to learn and grasp the complexities of this new forum, to be honest, so i do have sympathy. But anyway, could you please explain to me how such a complex system can be any good, if players struggle to understand it. What happens if the next harry Kewell of this generation just wants to kick a soccer ball around and cant understand the modern complexities does he just not get selected and neer amount to anything? I'm talking about the coaches, not players. Successful coaching demystifies and simplifies methodology. Effective communication between coach and player is paramount. I have read (by you) that Pim Verbeek stated that australian players didnt have the training or knowledge to understand the complex lines and methodology of the modern European game. He was a good coach. But if he couldnt simplify and demystify the methodoloogy enough for the 11 best players in the country to understand, then it would be fair to say that something is getting overcomplicated somewhere. http://cruyff.com/asp/eng/news.asp"I especially hope that my message has come across that football is about thinking logically and keeping it simple. Unfortunately in Holland we have let this slip away. By making it more and more complicated we have lost track of the basics."
http://worldsoccertalk.com/2015/03/30/johan-cruyff-slams-current-state-of-dutch-national-team/In his column published in De Telegraaf, Johan Cruyff gave a strong assessment of Holland’s performance against Turkey, as well as a damning evaluation of standard of Dutch football as a whole.
“Netherlands were terrible against Turkey. Nobody did what they had to do,” Cruyff wrote. “The defenders were only passing the ball to the midfielders and they then passed it back to the defenders. The people with little creativity were dictating play. This is not what you want. The problems only got bigger. “After the level of the Eredivisie and the performances of the Dutch teams in the Champions League and Europa League, it is now clear where the national team stands as well. We are suffering all over the place and I really wonder when we will finally wake up. “The main problem in Netherlands is education, the coaches and the education of the coaches. One thing is certain and that is that things need to change. Netherlands were a disgrace against Turkey.” From these links I would suggest to you that Cruyff's view on the KNVB and the Dutch style has long past its use by date as they have made football too complicated and it would appear that Pim Veerbeek fits into that catergory. If you accept Cruyff's view then maybe we have introduced a program that has passed its use by date. There would also be a lot Cruyff would agree with which would be taken as a given. At the same time, the KNVB have commissioned former Ajax coach, Henk Ten Cate, to head a task force to decipher what went wrong with Holland's recent failure to qualify for the Euros. It is axiomatic in the Dutch football milieu that change is is needed in the KNVB - immediately. Much of what the Dutch do is occurring in France, Germany, Spain and Belgium. It is the things they are not doing which will be focused on.
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+xBIG BIG DAY: AFF U19 Championship 1930 Melbourne Time: Australia v Indonesia AFC U16 Championship 2030 Melbourne Time: Australia v Kyrgyzstan Can someone link streams thank you. Good work, TSF.
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+x+xBIG BIG DAY: AFF U19 Championship 1930 Melbourne Time: Australia v Indonesia AFC U16 Championship 2030 Melbourne Time: Australia v Kyrgyzstan Can someone link streams thank you. Good work, TSF. Thanks mate. Integral we keep each other updated.
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+x+xBIG BIG DAY: AFF U19 Championship 1930 Melbourne Time: Australia v Indonesia AFC U16 Championship 2030 Melbourne Time: Australia v Kyrgyzstan Can someone link streams thank you. Good work, TSF. For the 16's (Youtube) search AFC u16 2016 championships (just before the start of the game) and its there. Did this last night for the India v UAE and the Iran v SA hopefully its the same today.
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moops
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np, included the u16's as well :)
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Goal
Aus 1-0 Indo, 23'
Aus 1-1 Indo, 36'. They earn a penalty and convert.
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Sloppy giveaway, quick counter-attack, shite defending and penalty conceded.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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moops
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+xSloppy giveaway, quick counter-attack, shite defending and penalty conceded. They do seem sloppy this game, but Indonesia are trying to play football, it's been our toughest game so far.
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moops
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Rowles looks really good though, is he signed with a HAL club?
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I was distracted during the first half hanging out with my wife but what little I saw looked sloppy
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Lol "Wait for second harlf"
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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+xRowles looks really good though, is he signed with a HAL club? Yeh signed with brisbane roar
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moops
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+x+xRowles looks really good though, is he signed with a HAL club? Yeh signed with brisbane roar Pitty, but he is looking the best of this group and only 17 right?
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| 1 | GK | NICHOLAS SUMAN | | | 4 | DF | KALEB COX | | | 5 | DF | JOEL KING | | | 6 | MF | ADRIAN VIGGIANI | | | 9 | FW | JOHN ROBERTS (C) | | | 11 | FW | MIRZA MURATOVIC | | | 13 | DF | THOMAS AQUILINA | | | 14 | MF | RAHMAT AKBARI | | | 17 | MF | LOUIS D'ARRIGO | | | 20 | FW | BRYCE BAFFORD | | | 21 | DF | ADRIAN VALENTI |
Team list for U16. Stream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flif4ACZnIY&index=2&list=WLBest of luck to the boys!
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I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO WATCH!!!!
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moops
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goal
Aus U19 2-1 Indo U19, nice goal
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+xI'M NOT SURE WHAT TO WATCH!!!! I am trying to watch both atm lol
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Capac
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Problem solved, u19 on my phone, u 16s on the computer
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+xProblem solved, u19 on my phone, u 16s on the computer nice, I have a split screen thing going on
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Where the hell is Lachlan Brook??
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nice work. 3-1 u19.
hard work but have finished off stronger.
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moops
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really nice goal
89' Aus 3-1 Indo
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Good goal!!!!
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Good win. Stream was shit. Or was it just me?
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Would it be fair to say that this u16 side is a mix of our A team and our B team?
They seem to lack the same cohesion the boys showed at the AFF
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moops
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Game over for the U19's 3-1.
Indonesia tried to play football, which stunned us a bit, the most competitive game we have had so far, but the boys came up trumps. The final third was stiff a bit iffy, but 3-1.
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