Thai are our nemesis!
THB we should be clear, but this isn't great and the french are investing in Vietnam and Cambodia like they are colonists.

Triangling at it's best.

Needs more 'effective body shape'.

We have had our chances, we seem off this game.

Shut up, you contribute nothing.

Cheers.  

Triangling aside that was a beautiful 4th goal by the Thai bloke.

Composure in spades and a beautiful chip finish.

1-5 woeful defending , we will beat them in final though :)

I don't know what the fuck you mean by triangling.
The Thais played well better then us in this game, I think the guys hit bottom and looked a bit flat. They will be better next game, not taking anything away from thr thais, they played really well.

Dear oh dear,  triangles and diamonds Mr Moops.

There's a bloke round these parts that might be able to help you out.

Ooops another goal.

switched off when we went 3-1 down

Gumbao teams usually struggle the first dozen games he is in charge but he nonetheless gets heat.

gombau is not the coach

he definitely must be involved though because they have looked a lot more organized than an okon team in spite of last nights result

the Joeys coaches told the boys they are on a mission to fail and just overall seemed scared to do anything. they weren't happy with the possession build up, 10/8 were in good positions but werent getting enough ball and playing forward. they were angry but no individual players were blamed. 

big big match against Vietnam at 12:30am Sydney time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOG8yeCsV4M.  if we get a win, we have a good chance of still making top two.  

as always best of luck to the boys. we need all of the squad switched on today and some new tactics. first match we had no idea how to break down their defense and the GF wasnt much better.  this is not against our forwards but coaching tactics but the constant throw-ins to them pointless. would much rare prefer we maintain possession by passing to the open man and try to build the play. would also like to see some forward runs even without the through ball to make space in Vietnam's defence. 

im not sure if the kid still has it but one of our midfielders, played striker until he got moved at the COE and from his couple of youtube clips, Bafford looks like he was good. almost opposite to Roberts and Moric with his height but he's fast, technically good, seems like an aerial threat and loves playing within the box. doubt it will happen for a number of reasons but he and Najjarine up front together with Brook sending in some quality balls, imo would be a whole new game for Vietnam. 

we've played Vietnam 2x in last month, they know exactly how we like to play and we know exactly how they play to so no excuses. 

That's because they also have a new coach Ufuk Talay. 

I've seen Gombau's name been thrown around here a lot including for the u-16/17s. He is coach for the olyroos and that's it. It's a full-time job just like u19/20s is a full-time job as is 16/17s. The person in charge of the whole set up is Peter de Roo with direction from Ange.

As for the u-19s it's a poor result  and they got shown up. Hopefully they can bounce back.

The u16s are going to find it very toughto qualify after that loss. They were really poor against Kyrgyzstan, it's probably the worst game I've seen this group play. Whilst the win was bad what was more concerning was the way they played, they really struggled against Kyrgyzstans pressure. It's a good lesson though so hopefully they can still get through. We can still make it but need results to fall our way a bit. Need at least a win against Vietnam but if Kyrgyzstan beats them as well we are in for some trouble.

How many games do the olyroos play inbtween Olympic years ? 1 or 2 ? 

Hasn't Gombau been sitting on the bench for the U19's?

kyrgistan was a poor performance from what I saw.
They game against thai we looked pretty good I thought

There have been plenty of bad results against minnows at youth level as well as good results against strong nations over the years for them to mean nothing about senior careers or the prospects of the players. Results are very deceptive at youth level

At least we can't blame this result on Okon.

Gombau is wasted with the Olyroos. The players are already fully developed by the time they get to him. And have suffered through years of hopeless coaching. He should be coaching the u16s instead of Vidmar from the end of the tournament. 

None of these junior national teams are full-time positions. So long as schedules don't conflict there's no reason he couldn't do both. 

And if we get knocked out of world cup qualifying by Krgyrzstan then heads will rightfully role. Decapitated the lot of em (coaches). 

Vietnam tonight in the AFC U16s. Prepare to be annihilated. 

Big game tonight. I cant wait. Boys are pumped and ready to go. Will be interesting to see how many changes are made to the starting line up. Good luck to all the boys.

Come on TSF show so faith

I have faith in the boys but not what they are being taught. 

Fair call. Not sure if tactics will change for this game we will have to wait and see.

what would you change?

Well I'd like to know first and foremost why they can't hit a pass? Why are they lobbing it into Roberts when he's heavily marked?

These age teams seem to lurch from disaster to disaster often against teams who do very little in senior international football. Clearly there are a number of issues but they never seem to be addressed, each new tournament following a similar pattern. What is really wrong? Is it coaching, selections, not caring about results………….?

Its really hard to know from afar but i wonder how their mentality and communication stacks up with previous generations ?

hmm the passing seems to be improving to me from 2 4 and 6 years ago
as has first touch and dribbling although I would say that we make more mistakes for our skill level than other nations of similar skill level. I suspect that is because we don't play for as many months of the year
finishing hasn't improved and defence, strength, speed and fitness have all gone backwards
of course berger claimed the latter three were easier to improve on when you get older. The new TD seems to claim that defence is important to learn at youth level contradicting Hans who once explicitly explained the reasons for focusing on bp over bpo until you hit senior level. Who knows whats true to be honest
I definitely do see improvement at senior level both in the improvement of the a league from year to year to the improvement of the fortunes of osaussies
jeggo goodwin and gersbach going straight into the starting 11 of decent clubs has become the new normal
So I do see some validation of the new philosophy of performance over results at youth level.
It'll be interesting to watch these youngsters who have gone through the full ntc to see how they develop as they hit senior level

Time will tell. I'll keep an open mind. 

Kyrgystan pressed high and very proactively. They cut off passing lanes and put us under a lot of pressure. from what I've seen from this group they haven't had to deal with the amount of pressure before and I think it shocked them. They were clearly trying to pass the ball but were stifled and really struggled to build up play, so they resulted in other basic plays. 

Personally I don't think results at u-16 level are super important, more so the style of play and the execution, the basic idea being though that with good execution comes results. U19 level is a different matter but at u-16 you are still ironing out a lot of the important facets the kids will need when they become professionals so I'd much rather they don't win whilst progressing than winning with poor football. Idealy of course we want them to win and show improvement but work in progress...