♔ ♕ ♚ ♛ Australia U17/U20/U23 National Team Tournaments & Discussion Thread ♔ ♕ ♚ ♛


♔ ♕ ♚ ♛ Australia U17/U20/U23 National Team Tournaments & Discussion...

Author
Message
Capac
Capac
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.2K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.2K, Visits: 0
TheSelectFew - 20 Sep 2016 8:20 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Sep 2016 8:16 PM

Yeah I hate that crap. 

Did well for the first five minutes now we just turn it over. 

Results matter but sometimes some of the people on here need to realise in youth football the score isn't the only result. 

That said at u-19 level the scoreline does matter a lot. They should be doing better, this side is really struggling to put balls in the back of the net.
Mustang67
Mustang67
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 954, Visits: 0
TheSelectFew - 20 Sep 2016 6:54 PM
quickflick - 20 Sep 2016 6:50 PM

Cheers blud. I have apologised for the use of that word. Should have used a better adjective. Can see how it was misinterpreted but no excuse on my end. 

Quality tsf 
Muz
Muz
Legend
Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 15K, Visits: 0
Capac - 20 Sep 2016 8:25 PM
TheSelectFew - 20 Sep 2016 8:20 PM

Results matter but sometimes some of the people on here need to realise in youth football the score isn't the only result. 

That said at u-19 level the scoreline does matter a lot. They should be doing better, this side is really struggling to put balls in the back of the net.

Yes we know.  You and the usual suspects have said that a million times

Anyway.  1 - 1.


Member since 2008.


Edited
9 Years Ago by Munrubenmuz
Muz
Muz
Legend
Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 15K, Visits: 0
Fuck these scum that lie down at every opportunity.  3 minutes for the stretcher to come out.  Would love to see a ref have the balls to add 10 minutes injury time one day.




Member since 2008.


Ds98
Ds98
Pro
Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)Pro (2.2K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.1K, Visits: 0
horrible sportsmanship shown here in this game
quickflick
quickflick
World Class
World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.1K, Visits: 0
Munrubenmuz - 20 Sep 2016 8:37 PM
Fuck these scum that lie down at every opportunity.  3 minutes for the stretcher to come out.  Would love to see a ref have the balls to add 10 minutes injury time one day.


One of my top ten favourite images ever...

Harry Kewell grabbing an opponent who was lying down as if he just trodden on a landmine and trying to haul him to his feet.
Edited
9 Years Ago by quickflick
TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Fuck these little bitches. They are a disgrace to football for all this play acting. 


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Its a serious issue when someone actually gets hurt. This ref needs to show more courage. 


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Nothing more that ticks me right over the edge is poor sportsmanship. Its a blight. 


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
That was a disgrace but we won 2-1. Diving and grass rolling almost cost us the game. Credit to our boys for sticking with it though. 


Jonsnow
Jonsnow
Rising Star
Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 783, Visits: 0
Disgraceful gamesmanship from Laos , this really gives our game a bad name and the AFL/ NRL wankers something to bag shit of Football .
Refs need to stamp it out with card or extended xtra time


playmaker11
playmaker11
Legend
Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 12K, Visits: 0
So the semi is Vietnam v Australia, Thursday 22nd, 10pm AEST

As for the grass rolling, there really needs to be some consequences. If you go down like a sack of potatoes you should stay off for a few minutes.


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

Jonsnow
Jonsnow
Rising Star
Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 783, Visits: 0
I'm thinking this will be a cracking game , hopefully Optus can afford to get a proper fcun commentator for semi and final , the bloke they got atm makes me want to puke big time :(


lukerobinho
lukerobinho
Legend
Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)Legend (11K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 10K, Visits: 0
Jonsnow - 20 Sep 2016 9:15 PM
Disgraceful gamesmanship from Laos , this really gives our game a bad name and the AFL/ NRL wankers something to bag shit of Football .Refs need to stamp it out with card or extended xtra time

Why do you care what others sports think ? (especially the two most monocultural in the world) you sound a little insecure

Its not as if its an Australian problem 
Muz
Muz
Legend
Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 15K, Visits: 0
Funny how you can call Asians 'scum' and no one cares.

Throw down 'retard' though and the place goes into meltdown.


Member since 2008.


Jonsnow
Jonsnow
Rising Star
Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)Rising Star (794 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 783, Visits: 0
Yes I do care what others think , bit stupid not to ?
Believe it or not football in Australia needs to sell its self to the mainstream , eurosnobs will not get us on free to air nor will they get us the pay tv deal that will enable us to grow the game .


quickflick
quickflick
World Class
World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.1K, Visits: 0
Munrubenmuz - 20 Sep 2016 10:16 PM
Funny how you can call Asians 'scum' and no one cares.

Throw down 'retard' though and the place goes into meltdown.

Yeah that's just as bad.

Call them scum is fine. Calling them Asian scum is not. Imo. But I was the only one who kicked up a fuss about the use of the word retard. That South Park thing makes a good point. And I reckon many people who are intellectually disabled or have loved ones who are would not be opposed to throwing words around like that. But I don't know that. And I can also see how it could be very offensive (even though it's a word I used to use a lot).

I'm at a bit of a loss as to whether it's good to be laissez-faire with these kind of things. It probably depends on the context. But without a specific context which makes it inoffensive, I think it's better not to use such terms because there will be some who, undoubtedly, would be hurt.
clifton
clifton
Hardcore Fan
Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)Hardcore Fan (177 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 165, Visits: 0
Jonsnow - 20 Sep 2016 9:33 PM
I'm thinking this will be a cracking game , hopefully Optus can afford to get a proper fcun commentator for semi and final , the bloke they got atm makes me want to puke big time :(

I've been enjoying his commentary.
I also loved it when Kuzmanovski came on and the graphic just said 'Steve'.
Muz
Muz
Legend
Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)Legend (16K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 15K, Visits: 0
quickflick - 20 Sep 2016 10:28 PM
Munrubenmuz - 20 Sep 2016 10:16 PM

Yeah that's just as bad.

Call them scum is fine. Calling them Asian scum is not. Imo. But I was the only one who kicked up a fuss about the use of the word retard. That South Park thing makes a good point. And I reckon many people who are intellectually disabled or have loved ones who are would not be opposed to throwing words around like that. But I don't know that. And I can also see how it could be very offensive (even though it's a word I used to use a lot).

I'm at a bit of a loss as to whether it's good to be laissez-faire with these kind of things. It probably depends on the context. But without a specific context which makes it inoffensive, I think it's better not to use such terms because there will be some who, undoubtedly, would be hurt.

If you constantly worried about somebody who 'might' be offended about something you might say then you'd never open your mouth. And that's no way to live your life.

But anyway here's the thing.  I could call you c#nt and no one would care.

Call you a faggot however and you're looking down the barrel of a ban.

Will cease posting about this because it's way off track.  Apologies for the sidetrack.


Member since 2008.


Edited
9 Years Ago by Munrubenmuz
TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Munrubenmuz - 20 Sep 2016 11:06 PM
quickflick - 20 Sep 2016 10:28 PM

If you constantly worried about somebody who 'might' be offended about something you might say then you'd never open your mouth. And that's no way to live your life.

But anyway here's the thing.  I could call you c#nt and no one would care.

Call you a faggot however and you're looking down the barrel of a ban.

Will cease posting about this because it's way off track.  Apologies for the sidetrack.

I hate it too. But its the world we live in these days. 


Bundoora B
Bundoora B
Legend
Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)Legend (12K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 12K, Visits: 0
Ds98 - 20 Sep 2016 7:51 PM
I'd just like to throw my two cents worth in here, but recently, I'm sure many of you are acquainted with 'A-League memes' on Facebook, (hoping no one is an admin of that page on here) but the other day regarding Melbourne City's 4-0 loss to Newcastle. The post (piss-take) basically connoted prior to the match the line up of city being a mixture of experience and youth whilst Post match the City twitter page said that their youthful squad was humbled by a full strength Jets squad. covering up the disappointing result with lack of experience.

As a result the keyboard warriors, 'A league memes' came alive bagging out Melbourne City (and basically their youth team), obviously the admins being so deluded in their apparent humour, don't fucking realise that half the kids that were playing that day were under 20 and most likely follow/like if not know about the page. So my question is. Do you think kids read into this and take it personally, I mean they can either strive for more success or completely give up due to the backlash they receive. but I feel fuckin annoyed when us Australians take the piss out of their own youth structures (youth teams) when the meme pages supposedly have a passion for covering the game as a whole.

Obviously I realise it is a memes page but come on, know when its suitable to do so and know when it isn't. And just because I'm a city fan I would've been pissed if it was any other club as it just degrades the development of the game as a whole.

Sorry. just an issue I thought apparent to youth development. Media.

1stly have to say that a league memes seems to be run by melbourne city supporters.

2nduly i think you need thick skin if you are going to have a public profile.

 




quickflick
quickflick
World Class
World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)World Class (6.3K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.1K, Visits: 0
Munrubenmuz

I'm making a separate thread in ET where I'll reply to you. Thought-provoking stuff.
TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
inala brah - 20 Sep 2016 11:50 PM
Ds98 - 20 Sep 2016 7:51 PM

1stly have to say that a league memes seems to be run by melbourne city supporters.

2nduly i think you need thick skin if you are going to have a public profile.

If you want a professional career in football expect it. If you can't handle a couple of mean words someone you don't know or care for said anonymously on the internet about you then what happens when you are needed to take a deciding pen.

Football requires a lot of toughness. Its what players lack these days because they are too bubble wrapped. 

In regards to City, they are fast becoming the hated club of the league. Rich foreign owner breaking all the rules and an international recognisable marquee who is as self obsessed as all get out. Losing 4 zip to a club with no manager you are gonna cop it. Its the game we love. No one is going yo check the players for age ID when criticising. They are professionals. 


Decentric
Decentric
Legend
Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)

Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K, Visits: 0
After viewing  segments of the Under 19 Laos game today, Australia dominated play against them, but could not do the most important thing - score.

There were so many  near misses by Australia. Pleasingly many of these occurred from proactive play. That is starting with patient build ups from the back, culminating  in some quicker episodes of attacking interplay near and in the opposition penalty box.

There were a number of technical phenomena that seem to be improving.

*Players playing more football when ball carrying, or generally in possession of the ball, with their heads up, as opposed to down.

* Players appear to be using the outside of the foot more than in the past. Having said this, it would be good if many players were more comfortable with the non- preferred foot in short passing interplay too, or even dribbling.

* The all important diagonal passing lane was constantly opened. The off the ball running was good from Australia.

 I saw someone ask why the diagonal ball  is important? Players constantly receive the ball , whilst simultaneously being able to scan the field of  play as they receive,  than turning blind. This creates effective preconditions for effective body shape whilst playing forwards. The straight ball is useful if a player is unmarked.
Decentric
Decentric
Legend
Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)

Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K, Visits: 0
Capac - 20 Sep 2016 8:25 PM
TheSelectFew - 20 Sep 2016 8:20 PM

Results matter but sometimes some of the people on here need to realise in youth football the score isn't the only result. 

That said at u-19 level the scoreline does matter a lot. They should be doing better, this side is really struggling to put balls in the back of the net.

On another day than the one against Laos, they could've put 6 in  the back of the net from the chances created.

The Australian performance in this game, was a lot better than the result.

The point made by FFA is that a high component of results are attributable to chance - approximately 40%. Yet some get so upset by losses that can be considered an upset. FFA boffins, led by Berger citing European scenarios, also conclude that many Aussie star youth players in tournaments fade out,  or become mediocre pro footballers, not fulfilling  early promise.

 Sometimes overage cheating occurs. This was apparent in most of the Nigererian team who just won the order 16/17 World Cup. The only definite way to ensure it doesn't  occur is playing senior football.

I've also read other articles where stars in underage World Cups fade out from  countries all around the world - not just Kaz Patafta.

We've all seen upsets. Particularly in recent times where  a few NPL teams have been fortunate to defeat  HAL teams in the FFA Cup.
Edited
9 Years Ago by Decentric
AJF
AJF
Pro
Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)Pro (2.9K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.7K, Visits: 2
Decentric - 21 Sep 2016 8:38 AM
Capac - 20 Sep 2016 8:25 PM

On another day than the one against Laos, they could've put 6 in  the back of the net from the chances created.

The Australian performance in this game, was a lot better than the result.

The point made by FFA is that a high component of results are attributable to chance - approximately 40%. Yet some get so upset by losses that can be considered an upset. FFA boffins, led by Berger citing European scenarios, also conclude that many Aussie star youth players in tournaments fade out,  or become mediocre pro footballers, not fulfilling  early promise.

 Sometimes overage cheating occurs. This was apparent in most of the Nigererian team who just won the order 16/17 World Cup. The only definite way to ensure it doesn't  occur is playing senior football.

I've also read other articles where stars in underage World Cups fade out from  countries all around the world - not just Kaz Patafta.

We've all seen upsets. Particularly in recent times where  a few NPL teams have been fortunate to defeat  HAL teams in the FFA Cup.

Decentric, normally your analysis is good but I think your stat on chance appears wrong because in effect you are saying every team wins 40% of their matches just on luck, which really sounds a lot like a good excuse for losing against the better team on the day. 

Football is a results game and anyone who thinks they dont matter is kidding themselves. If we arent concerned with how the U16 go in this tournament and their results dont matter, why did we bother sending them, surely the money could have been better spent on other development activities in Australia.











Decentric
Decentric
Legend
Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)

Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K, Visits: 0
AJF - 21 Sep 2016 10:24 AM
Decentric - 21 Sep 2016 8:38 AM

Decentric, normally your analysis is good but I think your stat on chance appears wrong because in effect you are saying every team wins 40% of their matches just on luck, which really sounds a lot like a good excuse for losing against the better team on the day. 




I am no expert on  chance.

However, Arthur provided a very interesting article, that was supposedly well researched in Europe. The author claimed comprehensive search showed that there was a 40% chance element in games.

Distinguished football author, Simon Kuper, has also alluded to this with his co- author, economics professor, Stefan Scysmoswki ( ?).

One case used was  Avram Grant's Chelsea player missing a penalty (Lampard or Terry) by a few centimetres in a UCL final. If it had been converted Chelsea  would've been Champ League champs. It wasn't. I think Grant was sacked shortly after.

Top FFA coaches always refer to the this issue in appraising coaches when confronted with results based football.
Edited
9 Years Ago by Decentric
Decentric
Decentric
Legend
Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)

Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K, Visits: 0
AJF - 21 Sep 2016 10:24 AM
Decentric - 21 Sep 2016 8:38 AM



Football is a results game and anyone who thinks they dont matter is kidding themselves. If we arent concerned with how the U16 go in this tournament and their results dont matter, why did we bother sending them, surely the money could have been better spent on other development activities in Australia.


 There are so many criteria to assess teams now, that results are one facet of the game.

Something  I learnt at a recent coaching seminar was that Ange divides a team into analysing three parts of the pitch. The attacking third, midfield third and defensive third.

Then a team can be appraised in  the three thirds of the pitch in  Ball Possession and Ball Possession Opposition. This comprises 6 analytical criteria.

Using these criteria the Socceroos may be weakest in Ball Possession and covering chances   in the attacking third and also weaker in Ball Possession Opposition in the defensive third compared to other areas of the pitch  and phases of play.

Then an individual  player can be appraised on four different technical criteria.

One well known criteria in any given game, is the chances created, inside and outside the box, compared to the opposition.

Modern analytical criteria goes on and on. This means games can be evaluated beyond goals scored and conceded. I hope this has elucidated some complex issues when some argue results are everything in underage football.


Edited
9 Years Ago by Decentric
Decentric
Decentric
Legend
Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)Legend (23K reputation)

Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K, Visits: 0
One very bad game for Australia, was the under 16s playing Krygystan. 

The performance was terrible, even though they only lost 0-1.

The under 16s second game, (was it against Thailand?), was much better.
Mustang67
Mustang67
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)Semi-Pro (1K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 954, Visits: 0
AJF - 21 Sep 2016 10:24 AM
Decentric - 21 Sep 2016 8:38 AM

Decentric, normally your analysis is good but I think your stat on chance appears wrong because in effect you are saying every team wins 40% of their matches just on luck, which really sounds a lot like a good excuse for losing against the better team on the day. 

Football is a results game and anyone who thinks they dont matter is kidding themselves. If we arent concerned with how the U16 go in this tournament and their results dont matter, why did we bother sending them, surely the money could have been better spent on other development activities in Australia.


Results will always matter. Try telling my son that not qualifying for the WC doesn't matter. But I think at U16's level its more about what and how these kids are being educated on the game. More importantly are we as a nation moving in the right direction with regards to football education? I have my concerns at state level and now national level.


GO


Select a Forum....























Inside Sport


Search