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The only good thing about today is the memes.
The best one-
A lot of people are slamming Trump, but did Mrs. Clinton help Kevin find the hotel lobby?
Hahahah
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Trump is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Trump VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Trump going to act,...let us hope, Trump just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Trump has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Trump to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Trump doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Trumps does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Trump does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Trump has said, that what he will do Doesn't matter what he said. he can't do that, atleast i don't think he can. he won't build a wall either. When was the last time you saw a politician do everything they say? lol anyome else, I would agree.....point is, we don't know....I hope it was just all bullshit talk to get the votes
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+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination?
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+x+xSo much bullshit in this thread It's been like that since 2nd Jan 2015 when this thread was started, why change now? Exactly
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+x+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination? Never misunderestimate the American people!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Trump is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Trump VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Trump going to act,...let us hope, Trump just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Trump has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Trump to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Trump doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Trumps does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Trump does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Trump has said, that what he will do Doesn't matter what he said. he can't do that, atleast i don't think he can. he won't build a wall either. When was the last time you saw a politician do everything they say? lol anyome else, I would agree.....point is, we don't know....I hope it was just all bullshit talk to get the votes I could be wrong, but a lot of it would have been bullshit talk. If it isn't then Trump will be the first politician to keep to his words in human history. lol
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Clinton thought she had it in the bag :laugh:, she must be rock bottom now.
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+x+x+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination? Never misunderestimate the American people! If Obama can survive being the first African American as President for two terms, I think Trump will be fine.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West- 中国别要打西方的国家. 外交将给予他们巨大的力量。习主席明白。 Really need to start practising.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Trump is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Trump VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Trump going to act,...let us hope, Trump just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Trump has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Trump to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Trump doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Trumps does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Trump does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Trump has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Trump will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense I agree ... all those countries have starting moving towards 2% as they now see the threat from Russia,,,,,,but even if they got to 2%, those countries can't defender themself with out USA or with out creating a single European army , and no body in USA, UK or Australia wants that, because we know who will end up in control of a single European army
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]wow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West- 中国别要打西方的国家. 外交将给予他们巨大的力量。习主席明白。 Really need to start practising. [/quote] it not really funny
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]+x[quote]wow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West- 中国别要打西方的国家. 外交将给予他们巨大的力量。习主席明白。 Really need to start practising. [/quote]it not really funny [/quote] 真的不滑稽.其实真的很严肃. Unfortunately some people don't understand how precarious diplomatic relations are at the moment around the world.
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We should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more.
Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up.
It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second.
India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us.
Trump's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Trump wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system.
If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet.
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Sam Bee Traveled to Russia for a Terrifying Look at Our Future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErBHVk90B6o
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+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Drumpf's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Drumpf wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. Yes pretty much this. I have concerns about their interference in our domestic affairs, it's happening a lot now but you'd be naive to think that the US aren't doing it also. It's very complex but Trump's election is a big opportunity for China.
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+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Trump's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Trump wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. add the fact, China never had democracy.....let have a single party, that control the country, with out any right for the individual over the good of the state... I don't think you will last in such a system t
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Just reactivated the Zuckerberg Whine Machine and the mass meltdowns are beyond priceless. Could be severe flooding at this rate.
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Gayfish
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+x+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Trump's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Trump wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. add the fact, China never had democracy.....let have a single party, that control the country, with out any right for the individual over the good of the state... I don't think you will last in such a system t Nice touch with the t on its own at the end.
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adrtho2
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+x+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Drumpf's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Drumpf wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. Yes pretty much this. I have concerns about their interference in our domestic affairs, it's happening a lot now but you'd be naive to think that the US aren't doing it also. It's very complex but Trump's election is a big opportunity for China. but not the same thing, US having interference in our Australia domestic affairs, is not the same as a non-democracy single party state, who doesn't believe in individual right there not equal bad
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+x+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination? I was not saying anything particular, I just have no idea what is going to happen as was proven today because I thought Clinton would win.
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adrtho2
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+x+x+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Trump's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Trump wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. add the fact, China never had democracy.....let have a single party, that control the country, with out any right for the individual over the good of the state... I don't think you will last in such a system t Nice touch with the t on its own at the end. i can't believe you eat dog shit, what type of man are you...dog shit
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+x+x+x+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Trump's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Trump wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. add the fact, China never had democracy.....let have a single party, that control the country, with out any right for the individual over the good of the state... I don't think you will last in such a system t Nice touch with the t on its own at the end. i can't believe you eat dog shit, what type of man are you...dog shit
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+xClinton thought she had it in the bag :laugh:, she must be rock bottom now. That's because she had the media trying everything they could lol. -PB
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The gender gap vote wasn't as big as they had hoped/thought/paraded. -PB
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Do you believe us yet?
That the media is corrupt. That they are bias. That they are part of a machine trying to engineer society? Do you really think that polling organisations (who have one fucking job) can be so incompetent? No, they were lying to you.
Donald Trump's victory PROOVES he was right. That the people are sick of unfettered illegal immigration, corporate greed destroying the working class, media elites policing thought and language, multinational unionism, sending Americans to die in stupid wars.
We were told constantly by "celebrities," people who by definition have no education and "journalists," whom by definition have a poor education how evil Trump is, that he is literally Hitler, how much he is hated by every one of the left's favourite little "minority," how there is going to be a landslide for Hillary etc etc.
Donald Trump won by going to the people. Night after night and actually going to them. He abandoned identity politics and united the nation. All this pathetic crying we are seeing on our media is from big city elites who have no idea.
The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional representative republic. The individual (not the minority) is protected by the constitution from the mob rule of democracy. And today, the republic has risen once again to protect itself from the tyranny of the elites.
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+xDo you believe us yet? That the media is corrupt. That they are bias. That they are part of a machine trying to engineer society? Do you really think that polling organisations (who have one fucking job) can be so incompetent? No, they were lying to you. Donald Trump's victory PROOVES he was right. That the people are sick of unfettered illegal immigration, corporate greed destroying the working class, media elites policing thought and language, multinational unionism, sending Americans to die in stupid wars. We were told constantly by "celebrities," people who by definition have no education and "journalists," whom by definition have a poor education how evil Trump is, that he is literally Hitler, how much he is hated by every one of the left's favourite little "minority," how there is going to be a landslide for Hillary etc etc. Donald Trump won by going to the people. Night after night and actually going to them. He abandoned identity politics and united the nation. All this pathetic crying we are seeing on our media is from big city elites who have no idea. The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional representative republic. The individual (not the minority) is protected by the constitution from the mob rule of democracy. And today, the republic has risen once again to protect itself from the tyranny of the elites. u f***ing wot m80? Besides that it is amazing the shift in politics we have seen in the last year. As an observer and someone who tends to just enjoy the debate/drama unfold, great to watch history in action
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Certain things will not change. The world is in a diplomatic precarious position but the US Alliance is very important to Australia and the world.
Ardtho is actually right. Russia and America are in a Proxy War right now. There is a lot at stake. Put in is testing the waters for a Eastern European invasion. This is what happens in Europe. Fact of the matter is, we already have a Hitler in power and he is waiting for a sign of weakness before the go that extra step.
The other issue is South China Sea. Australia and the world can't afford the annexation of International Sea Lanes in violation of UNCLOS.
Then there is North Korea.
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+xThe gender gap vote wasn't as big as they had hoped/thought/paraded. -PB no it wasn't I guess talking shit about women is now ok again
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+xRemember guys, when Hillary claims to be too sick for prison; she's definitely presidential material. The better man won. Her concession speech has showed how presidential she is.
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