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I saw a good comment somewhere: Clinton built a coalition to win the popular vote, Trump built a coalition to win the electoral college.
All this talk of Latino turnout didn't fucking matter because they were in states that were already blue (Cali, NM) or already red (Texas, Arizona). Similarly, all this talk of the black vote didn't matter because it's concentrated in southern states where Republicans run up yuuuuge tallies with whites (Georgia, Missippi etc) or again in already deeply blue states like Illinois and Maryland.
So Trump targeted a demographic that was ignored by the democrats - disaffected whites in the Mid-West. Everyone laughed at his rallies in blue states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania etc when in reality it was these places that were the prime targets of his message. Look at Ohio - it was THE bellweather state and he managed a swing of over 10 points in a single cycle!
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 not just Republican, 80% of the white people with out a Uni degree now watch the Rich son who live with butler all his life, look after the working man :laugh:
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Though Trump didnt actually say that. See how the left simply make shit up to scrap together votes, then in the same breath claim the moral and intellectual high ground. Bizarre
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Been watching a stream on facebook following 400 whinging lefties walk through Portland, Oregon.
Been a good tour of the place so far. Hope they walk past where the Timbers play
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+xnot just Republican, 80% of the white people with out a Uni degree now watch the Rich son who live with butler all his life, look after the working man :laugh: 
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So it seems the only reliable source of information on the election was Fox News, good thing it is main channel I watch.
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+xThough Trump didnt actually say that. See how the left simply make shit up to scrap together votes, then in the same breath claim the moral and intellectual high ground. Bizarre my god, he say this type of shit all the time....
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I'm going to go through everyone of these pages and quote mrags gold.
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+x+xnot just Republican, 80% of the white people with out a Uni degree now watch the Rich son who live with butler all his life, look after the working man :laugh: go eat your dog shit....what type of person eat dog shit,
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Has adrtho gone full retard?
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Go to bed adrtho. Its been a very tough day for you
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+xHas adrtho gone full retard? how fat are you? really, are you a fit person, or lazy sob? it ok, please ask me if i'm gone retard
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Good grief, this is my first foray into extra time. I respect your opinions on football, but can't believe how many of you seem to be supporting Trump. The guy is a clueless numbskull. Yes, Hillary wasn't a perfect candidate but she's at least smart, stable and well-informed. Trump is an idiot, plain and simple. Not fit to be president.
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+xGo to bed adrtho. Its been a very tough day for you I will be staying up, need to get sleeping pattern on Euro time
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obamacare (Affordable Care Act) is gone, ...i'm so happy the working man will have much less health insurance cover (none for many) there life already better
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Adrtho do me a favour and log off.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+xDo you believe us yet? That the media is corrupt. That they are bias. That they are part of a machine trying to engineer society? Do you really think that polling organisations (who have one fucking job) can be so incompetent? No, they were lying to you. Donald Trump's victory PROOVES he was right. That the people are sick of unfettered illegal immigration, corporate greed destroying the working class, media elites policing thought and language, multinational unionism, sending Americans to die in stupid wars. We were told constantly by "celebrities," people who by definition have no education and "journalists," whom by definition have a poor education how evil Trump is, that he is literally Hitler, how much he is hated by every one of the left's favourite little "minority," how there is going to be a landslide for Hillary etc etc. Donald Trump won by going to the people. Night after night and actually going to them. He abandoned identity politics and united the nation. All this pathetic crying we are seeing on our media is from big city elites who have no idea. The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional representative republic. The individual (not the minority) is protected by the constitution from the mob rule of democracy. And today, the republic has risen once again to protect itself from the tyranny of the elites. Basically summed it up. I don't think that Trump will make ordinary folk in the States fare any better, though. I think it was a shame that Ms. Clinton was the Democrats candidate. And the way she handled things (and the media handled things) pissed off a lot of people who are kingmakers. You don't go calling your constituents a "basket of deplorables" (even if I, personally, agree on that point). The Democrats fucked up massively. The bad thing is that this has led to a situation where a man wholly unfit for the most influential job in the world will take the reins. The only good thing is if somehow he gets reined in and things don't go too mental while he's in charge. Then in future, mainstream politics learns to address some of the things to which you refer in your post.
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+xAdrtho do me a favour and log off. piss off
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+x+xAdrtho do me a favour and log off. piss off Why don't you, loser. :laugh:
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+xDo you believe us yet? That the media is corrupt. That they are bias. That they are part of a machine trying to engineer society? Do you really think that polling organisations (who have one fucking job) can be so incompetent? No, they were lying to you. Donald Trump's victory PROOVES he was right. That the people are sick of unfettered illegal immigration, corporate greed destroying the working class, media elites policing thought and language, multinational unionism, sending Americans to die in stupid wars. We were told constantly by "celebrities," people who by definition have no education and "journalists," whom by definition have a poor education how evil Trump is, that he is literally Hitler, how much he is hated by every one of the left's favourite little "minority," how there is going to be a landslide for Hillary etc etc. Donald Trump won by going to the people. Night after night and actually going to them. He abandoned identity politics and united the nation. All this pathetic crying we are seeing on our media is from big city elites who have no idea. The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional representative republic. The individual (not the minority) is protected by the constitution from the mob rule of democracy. And today, the republic has risen once again to protect itself from the tyranny of the elites. And I agree, which is why I initially supported Sanders. Trump is still not the answer. If Clinton was papering over the cracks, Trump is taking to the cracks with a sledgehammer.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+x+xAdrtho do me a favour and log off. piss off Why don't you go use the Elo rating system to determine the results of the 2018 midterms or some shit?
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+x+xDo you believe us yet? That the media is corrupt. That they are bias. That they are part of a machine trying to engineer society? Do you really think that polling organisations (who have one fucking job) can be so incompetent? No, they were lying to you. Donald Trump's victory PROOVES he was right. That the people are sick of unfettered illegal immigration, corporate greed destroying the working class, media elites policing thought and language, multinational unionism, sending Americans to die in stupid wars. We were told constantly by "celebrities," people who by definition have no education and "journalists," whom by definition have a poor education how evil Trump is, that he is literally Hitler, how much he is hated by every one of the left's favourite little "minority," how there is going to be a landslide for Hillary etc etc. Donald Trump won by going to the people. Night after night and actually going to them. He abandoned identity politics and united the nation. All this pathetic crying we are seeing on our media is from big city elites who have no idea. The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional representative republic. The individual (not the minority) is protected by the constitution from the mob rule of democracy. And today, the republic has risen once again to protect itself from the tyranny of the elites. Basically summed it up. I don't think that Trump will make ordinary folk in the States fare any better, though. I think it was a shame that Ms. Clinton was the Democrats candidate. And the way she handled things (and the media handled things) pissed off a lot of people who are kingmakers. You don't go calling your constituents a "basket of deplorables" (even if I, personally, agree on that point). The Democrats fucked up massively. The bad thing is that this has led to a situation where a man wholly unfit for the most influential job in the world will take the reins. The only good thing is if somehow he gets reined in and things don't go too mental while he's in charge. Then in future, mainstream politics learns to address some of the things to which you refer in your post. He'll get reined it because he, like every president, will be subject to the separation of powers. Meaning the president has less power than what everyone thinks. The mainstream media is exaggerating the usual doomsday predictions now that one of their own hasn't won. They always do this. I tend to feel comforted when they are in meltdown.
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+x+x+xAdrtho do me a favour and log off. piss off Why don't you go use the Elo rating system to determine the results of the 2018 midterms or some shit? I will use it tonight for EuroCup, .....oh, you was trying to make a funny? you're not funny
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Hillary Clinton is going to win the popular vote. What a fucking mess.
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+x+x+xDo you believe us yet? That the media is corrupt. That they are bias. That they are part of a machine trying to engineer society? Do you really think that polling organisations (who have one fucking job) can be so incompetent? No, they were lying to you. Donald Trump's victory PROOVES he was right. That the people are sick of unfettered illegal immigration, corporate greed destroying the working class, media elites policing thought and language, multinational unionism, sending Americans to die in stupid wars. We were told constantly by "celebrities," people who by definition have no education and "journalists," whom by definition have a poor education how evil Trump is, that he is literally Hitler, how much he is hated by every one of the left's favourite little "minority," how there is going to be a landslide for Hillary etc etc. Donald Trump won by going to the people. Night after night and actually going to them. He abandoned identity politics and united the nation. All this pathetic crying we are seeing on our media is from big city elites who have no idea. The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional representative republic. The individual (not the minority) is protected by the constitution from the mob rule of democracy. And today, the republic has risen once again to protect itself from the tyranny of the elites. And I agree, which is why I initially supported Sanders. Trump is still not the answer. If Clinton was papering over the cracks, Trump is taking to the cracks with a sledgehammer. This is your best insight of the campaign. A job like this requires a sledgehammer. Not everyone is going to like him, but in the fullness of time he will go down as one of the greatest presidents of all time. He may well be the one who truly shakes up the DNC and makes them realise that their identity politics aren't working and that they need to reach out to the common man (specifically working class blue collar non-college educated whites, who ultimately tipped this election in Trump's favour), but he won't be regarded as one of the greatest. He is set to set the progress of Democrats and liberals back about 30-50 years, intensify racial tensions and destroy and hope of action regarding climate change.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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Bloody hell, all those juicy tears on the ABC!
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+x+x+x+xAdrtho do me a favour and log off. piss off Why don't you go use the Elo rating system to determine the results of the 2018 midterms or some shit? I will use it tonight for EuroCup, .....oh, you was trying to make a funny? you're not funny Being an absolute joke, you'd be able to gauge comedic value pretty easily.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+x+xCruz vs Rubio is a good tip I reckon. Cruz is insane, but Rubio is a far scarier prospect - he could very well win the general election. So much bullshit, so little time Well at least he was right about Cruz being insane. +xGood grief, this is my first foray into extra time. I respect your opinions on football, but can't believe how many of you seem to be supporting Trump. The guy is a clueless numbskull. Yes, Hillary wasn't a perfect candidate but she's at least smart, stable and well-informed. Trump is an idiot, plain and simple. Not fit to be president. For someone so well-informed she misread the public pretty terribly. Should've spent less time wheeling out celebs and playing the PC/Woman card and focus more on America's working class.
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