I think the lesson the Democrats can take from this election is to make up as much shit as you like and the populace will eat it up.

No. How about if you have a choice between a lying crook and a deadset person who is advocating real change and not a pusher of the same shit, make the right call. 

No one to blame but themselves. And Trump lied no more than any other politician. If anything he was far too front about his plans. 

But keep trying tard. 

A Trump supporter using the word 'tard'. Irony? FMD.
I am guessing you avoid fact checking sources, such as Politifact, lest it causes you to step outside your echo chamber

Now the world has to put up with the 4 year long train wreck, because of dumb fcuks taking a demagogue at his word & then voting.

I like comedian Jim Jefferies stand up act earlier this year 'Freedumb', where he says:
"If you say you like like Donald Trump because he's a 'straight talker', then you're as dumb as shit"

Good thing comedians opinions are worthless then.

-PB

More from Jim's gig:
Trump: "We're going to build a wall"
Me: "I have a wall in my house. He's a straight talker!"

Sums it up.....

Comedians represent the minority. 

Nothing says draining the swamp more than appointing Steven Mnuchin as Treasury secretary.

Nothing says "bastion of anti-PC" and freedom of speech supporter like wanting to strip citizenship from people who burn the flag.

Nah you didn't but Crusader did. You're posts are just high enough quality to warrant quoting :)  Unless something unexpected comes from the recount, based on the rules at play Trump won legitimately. Whether the rules are fair or not and should be changed is another matter of course.

I think the problem wasn't that Trump "lied" it was just his policies were not realistic (they were rhetoric not sound policies). Now elected his tune has had to change (will those that voted for him see this as a betrayal, or simply blame the "left"?)

Already we've seen him change his opinion on Obamacare ... would it been that bad for him to say pre-election that the concept is "good" but he didn't agree with the "execution"?? Instead he lambasted it, was going to repeal it etc. (all fed to a populist opinion, but did he always know that it was realistic or best?)

Similarly to building a wall ... utterly pointless, and now his tune has changed (going to "improve" the existing measures). Again, could he have said a priority was to reduce illegal immigration from Mexico through law enforcement and social programs (believe he has opened dialogue with the Mexican president on this matter already post election).

Trump slated that Obama was allowing criminal aliens (illegals) to stay, yet he has been one of the most proactive Presidents in recent time to address this issue (however there are issues with courts and due process to make this happen ... Trump will encounter similar issues, and local governments have already threatened to resist Trump's policies that aren't fair on the matter, e.g. NY mayor).

Climate change was a "hoax" to now they need to consider their position on the matter ... again played to a populist view in America, but now in power all his scientific advisers will be telling, sorry President Trump but the scientific evidence is too strong to ignore and the economic / life risks are too great to brush aside. As President I guess he could dismiss all scientists that would advise him of the truth ... or he takes a more realistic view to things. Again couldn't he have said something along the lines that the US would not be dictated by international bodies on what to do, but that it is still a matter that as Americans we need to work on and use to our advantage to create new markets (e.g. solar panels, engineering solutions, passive house designs, clean energy etc. etc. all that could provide new jobs and open new international markets).

Be interesting to see what happens with their trade tariffs and free agreements ... when his economic advisors start to inform him that Mexico is America's fourth largest trade partner, Canada their second and China their third (all in the top four importers of American goods too) will he change his tune. His pre-election talk pretty much will reduce the export dollars America would receive from all these countries. Sound business?? Again populist to believe the Mexican's / Chinese are stealing jobs etc. but another thing to actually make consumers pay more for a product that is home made, and to spend money on walls, court proceedings, infrastructure building whilst you reduce the income for that country (by reducing the export trade and income tax).

Was this all part of Trump's plan though?? Pander to the masses with promises and views that were 'popular' but with little intention to actually carry through with them (or at least be more balanced in actual policies to the pre-election rhetoric)??

"Drain the swamp" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

It's just coloured cloth ffs. If it ain't clothing, a curtain or blanket then it's a meaningless waste 

Speech that is offensive is OK as long as it isn't something that you feel is offensive. Gotcha.

It's literally a piece of cloth lmao

Ignorance is bliss you forgot

I disagree with most of those points, but I support your right to express them.

Why do you still think I'm a Uni SJW?

If you want to be technical no it isn't speech, the term "freedom of speech" is often used interchangeably with "freedom of expression" which clearly flag burning is.

The rest of what you wrote just shows clear hypocrisy but I'm not in the slightest surprised.

Had to post this :laugh:

I personally don't believe you should burn your nation's flag, but should that imposed on all?

I thought lefties wanted big governments?

The right wants small government for themselves and large government for everyone else.

Flag burning should only be illegal for the simple fact of it being dangerous to light a fire in a public place. Not that its a flag that is burning.

People do it simply for attention and its best to give them none. But it tends to make the news at night.

Can you imagine a Trump fan at a comedy gig?
They would be sitting there stonefaced as the gags continually fly over their head.

People didn't believe me when I told you that Trump's win would be the biggest corporate screwover of working people since the 1920s, but looks like I was right. 70pc of Trump's cabinet picks are former wall street executives and lobbyists.

If you think right wing Nationalism is good because it's "anti-establishment", then you're going to be disappointed. 

I will agree he didn't expect to get in. I think he was a bit shocked. I wasn't surprised. He rallied republicans whilst Clinton divided democrats. 

I think a lot of his policies were unsustainable and unrealistic. Nevertheless his anti war stance changed since in power for the better. I reckon he will withdraw. 

Let's not act as if this is the first politician to reneg on promises. I mean are we seriously going to act like that isn't a thing. 

As for trade I reckon he will forge stronger relations with Russia. Its telling how quickly Russia Today has changed its tune. Criticising leftist protests, singing his praises, highlighting trumps strong relationship with Putin. 

I was a massive fan of him over Clinton. 

It just goes to show even in the Information Age, where there is readily available fact checking, dumb fcuks still willing gobble up shit.
Hitler getting in power shouldn't be a surprise

Interesting he's announced that he's going to pull back from all operational aspects of his companies.

Wonder if he will go the whole hog and do financial as well. I highly doubt it but still, you'd think people would raise those aspects of the constitution that he could fall under if he doesn't.

-PB

The reason he is no longer going to "lock her up" is because he knows in the tit for tat reposnse he actually would go to prison
I wonder if the $34M he has just had to fork out to silence his accusers is just the tip of the iceberg

The Koran is just paper and ink.
In saying that, punishment for burning the flag is ridiculous. The Boy Scouts of America burn thousands of flags every year. What are they suppose to do? Throw the flags in the bin?

I agree with mcjules regarding the EC, the states are represented in the congress and senate, the president should be decided by the majority. Certaintly makes the elections more intersting though, and obviously the result of this election should stand.

I dont think you should be locked up for offending people either(flag burning) just held by society as a complete fuckwit.