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+x+x+x+x+xThis is promising, the South East of Melbourne is the closest region Victoria has to creating it's on WSW. The whole region has basically been neglected since the AFL ditched Waverley stadium 16 years ago. Even though AFL is big out this area, the round ball has made huge inroads here since '06. A lot of local aussie rules sides are really struggling around the Dandenong region and junior sides are dwindling compared to 10 years ago. Since then, the growth out that way has been phenomenal with improved links to the Mornington peninsula also. I do have some queries though. I've briefly been to the Dandenong showgrounds and it certainly seems smaller than 40 acres, google maps suggests similar. It's about a 1.5km walk from Dandy station not 400m. There isn't much parking out there, certainly not enough to withstand an influx of thousands of fans on matchday. Is any other Melbournians from the area that could have some input on this? I live 15 minutes away from Dandenong, and the only reason soccer is now popular is because of the gentrification of the neighbourhood. Hard working, honest Aussies are being forced out in record numbers thanks to lawless immigrants from Sudan and other less civilised cultures. If people are worried about the spectator "violence" a Greek majority supported team brings, I shudder to think what a Sudanese majority supported team brings. This message proudly brought to you by the Soldiers of Odin. Prove me wrong tho  Well, for one, that's not gentrification. Definition of gentrification is an influx of higher income people moving in to a lower socioeconomic region and renovating property, building new infrastructure and driving property values up therefore making it harder for the traditional residents out of the area as they can no longer afford to live there. So if you're claiming people are leaving the area due to the rise in violence and crime, that ain't gentrification. Spot on. Totally wrong term to use.
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+xMost of the votes for the other 2 would be from people that don't want south in for obvious reasons as opposed to supporting the other 2, half the vote is a pretty significant win overall, we obviously outnumber the haters. Would have thought the fastest growing region in Victoria would run us a bit closer. Speaking of regions, I've got a question and I'm sure if the FFA are talking to South this would be a major talking point.. Who exactly does South Melbourne represent now, or who do they intended to represent? I'm sure 99% of their fans don't actually live in South Melbourne the suburb. Are they aiming to represent the South of Melbourne? How do they stop becoming just another broad based Melbourne team? Reason why I ask this is that they already have a great supporter base for an NPL club and I reckon they'd do well to begin with, however how does South grow in the future, other than appealing to Greeks?
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+x+x+xDandenong Rangers, good to see some competition from the victorian areas and also good that there is atleast a bid from each of sydney, melbourne and brisbane so will be tough on ffa, will be hard to turn down a big city team. Dandenong Rangers.. I like the name They can already get fucked Ok ok how about the Dandenong Celtic then? Make you happy?
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Davo1985
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+x+xFrom what I have read this is the best bid by light years... stadium is the only issue but could they use the old AFL one at least for a couple of seasons... BTW I am from the Central Coast and have no idea of how things work in little Mexico ... Precicelsy midfielder. Youre out of your depth again. Try understanding what youre talking about before making such lofty statements like "best bid in years". "stadium is the only issue " Ok. Just the superfluous little irrelevant stadium thingy... And other than the fact that the proposal is for a not yet invented club, the ffa must be barking not jumping on this with both feet. Ps. I mean who doesn't want hal teams to play out of AFL stadiums.. Thanks but no thanks. I think moving forward one of the absolute pre requisites is that any bid that comes forward has to have as an absolute must a rectangular seat stadium. No more ovals. If there is one thing that we all know for certain, is that oval shaped venues for our code loses much of the attraction of going to a live game, as so much of the atmosphere is lost unless you are able to fill for the stadium up to the brim and even then it's debatable. So to be honest at present I dont think many of the bids really stack up. Tasmania - No Sth Melb - Maybe if they put up stands behind goals (unlikely) Geelong - No 2nd Brisbane - Possibly yes Sth Sydney - Possibly yes
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Hutch
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+x+x+xFrom what I have read this is the best bid by light years... stadium is the only issue but could they use the old AFL one at least for a couple of seasons... BTW I am from the Central Coast and have no idea of how things work in little Mexico ... Precicelsy midfielder. Youre out of your depth again. Try understanding what youre talking about before making such lofty statements like "best bid in years". "stadium is the only issue " Ok. Just the superfluous little irrelevant stadium thingy... And other than the fact that the proposal is for a not yet invented club, the ffa must be barking not jumping on this with both feet. Ps. I mean who doesn't want hal teams to play out of AFL stadiums.. Thanks but no thanks. I think moving forward one of the absolute pre requisites is that any bid that comes forward has to have as an absolute must a rectangular seat stadium. No more ovals. If there is one thing that we all know for certain, is that oval shaped venues for our code loses much of the attraction of going to a live game, as so much of the atmosphere is lost unless you are able to fill for the stadium up to the brim and even then it's debatable. So to be honest at present I dont think many of the bids really stack up. Tasmania - No Sth Melb - Maybe if they put up stands behind goals (unlikely) Geelong - No 2nd Brisbane - Possibly yes Sth Sydney - Possibly yes Casey does mention that the bid and the council want to redevelop the showgrounds, so you'd expect that to be a new, rectangular stadium. The Tassie bid talks of a redevelopment of Nth Hobart, but is that just to increase capacity/amenities and not convert to rectangular? But ultimately, it won't be a stopper, and shouldn't be. Plenty of teams around the world play in oval stadiums with running tracks etc around the pitch.
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aussie pride
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The perfect template for Dandenong showgrounds? Demountable system which has worked wonder in PNG. 15,000 seats overall with room to expand to 25,000 if ever needed. Almost $100M US to build off shore  http://populous.com/project/png-national-football-stadium/
The redeveloped stadium will include 3,000 permanent seats and 9,000 lightweight seats, with an ultimate capacity of 25,000 permanent seats. The facility will also include 500
corporate seats, a viewing deck and members seating for an additional 300 people.
The main issue Populous had to overcome for this design was cost. The project had a low budget and Papua New Guinea has a very small manufacturing base meaning all material
had to be manufactured overseas and shipped in ce Lloyd Robson Oval in Boroko, Port Moresby.
The ground is being redeveloped by Oil Search Limited for the people of Papua New Guinea through the National Infrastructure Tax Credit Scheme.
Due for completion for the commencement of the 2016 season, the new ground will be a modern facility that will host local and international rugby league, rugby union, and soccer matches. The modern design and proximity to the field of play will ensure patrons will have the best views and atmosphere ever experienced at any sports venue in PNG.
The state-of-the-art facility includes:
· 25,000 ultimate seating capacity, including general admission, wheelchair and carer positions and enhanced amenity seats
· international standard, quick draining, low maintenance turf playing surface
· air-conditioned corporate facilities
· modern media facilities
· numerous food and beverage outlets featuring local street food cuisine
· modern public washroom amenities.
The new stadium will be redeveloped in 2 stages, with stage 1 capacity of 15,000 seats targeting partial completion for hosting the 2015 Pacific Games in July 2015. Stage 2 will see the stadium continue to grow to 25,000 seat capacity, complete with facilities for national player training and rehabilitation facilities.
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Lightweight seats eh ! Should be able to chuck them a long way.
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Hutch
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Actually looks like a sweet stadium. 
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I like the idea. I wonder if there is room for both SM and SE melb. They are very simular catchment areas.
On a stadium I think they need a bare bones stadium and a team playing in the NPL. With plans to get a full stadium if they get accepted. Probably needs to be no bigger than 15k max to begin with
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I've heard an interesting rumour today that could have legs.
The local Dandenong Aussie rules side currently plays at the Showgrounds.
Well apparently their really struggling financially and owe the council money.
On top of this they are struggling on the field with numbers and results.
Apparently the council are really putting the heat on them and basically want them out so they can use the oval for soccer.
Weather it be for this bid or junior it remains to be seen. However considering its at the same area that was mentioned in the article it's probably worth posting.
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How would a stadium in the South East be viable though?
The HAL would likely offer less than 20 home games a year and there are no other sports that realistically would need to use it.
RL and RU won't have a regular use for it, NPL matches for any clubs in the area also don't need 15-20k capacity stadiums so that really just leaves concerts.
Football specific stadiums sound great but the economics would be very hard to make work.
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+x+xMost of the votes for the other 2 would be from people that don't want south in for obvious reasons as opposed to supporting the other 2, half the vote is a pretty significant win overall, we obviously outnumber the haters. Would have thought the fastest growing region in Victoria would run us a bit closer. Speaking of regions, I've got a question and I'm sure if the FFA are talking to South this would be a major talking point.. Who exactly does South Melbourne represent now, or who do they intended to represent? I'm sure 99% of their fans don't actually live in South Melbourne the suburb. Are they aiming to represent the South of Melbourne? How do they stop becoming just another broad based Melbourne team? Reason why I ask this is that they already have a great supporter base for an NPL club and I reckon they'd do well to begin with, however how does South grow in the future, other than appealing to Greeks? My previous understanding was that the club would focus on promotional activities through the south and south-east corridor (which is ironic considering the Dandenong bid) - differentiating themselves on the basis that Victory and City both try to claim the whole city, whereas South would be genuinely claiming one part.
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Greater Dandenong Mayor Jim Memeti has declared Victorian’s southeast region could house an A-League team “as early as July”, but would play matches at AAMI Park to begin with.The region has thrown its hat into the ring to be apart of the next round of A-League expansion, due to take place in 2018-19, and would likely encompass the Greater Dandenong region and the City of Casey. Cr Memeti says training facilities in Dandenong could be ready by July, and the bid has identified a long-term home.“We would have training facilities ready to go as early as July,” Memeti told SEN Afternoons. “The council is constructing a $12 million football precinct … we would have training facilities ready to go straight away.“Potentially, we could be playing home games at AAMI Park. In the future, the (Dandenong) Showgrounds in Bennet St, we could probably built a boutique stadium to hold about 20,000 people.“I think the hunger that this area has for sport, it’s second to none. Football has just taken off.“The sport that everyone’s talking about and wants to be apart of is football. I think the time is right.”
http://outside90.com/greater-dandenong-mayor-southeast-victoria-a-league-team-ready-to-go-next-year-245/
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+xGreater Dandenong Mayor Jim Memeti has declared Victorian’s southeast region could house an A-League team “as early as July”, but would play matches at AAMI Park to begin with.The region has thrown its hat into the ring to be apart of the next round of A-League expansion, due to take place in 2018-19, and would likely encompass the Greater Dandenong region and the City of Casey. Cr Memeti says training facilities in Dandenong could be ready by July, and the bid has identified a long-term home.“We would have training facilities ready to go as early as July,” Memeti told SEN Afternoons. “The council is constructing a $12 million football precinct … we would have training facilities ready to go straight away.“Potentially, we could be playing home games at AAMI Park. In the future, the (Dandenong) Showgrounds in Bennet St, we could probably built a boutique stadium to hold about 20,000 people.“I think the hunger that this area has for sport, it’s second to none. Football has just taken off.“The sport that everyone’s talking about and wants to be apart of is football. I think the time is right.”
http://outside90.com/greater-dandenong-mayor-southeast-victoria-a-league-team-ready-to-go-next-year-245/
Have they submitted a formal bid yet?
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Playing at aami park is instant death..i mean they would need to close off parts of the bottom tiers as well for this.
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+xPlaying at aami park is instant death..i mean they would need to close off parts of the bottom tiers as well for this. F@#$/ off memeti you retard. Football illiterate Mayors should sftu and stay away from football.
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+xPlaying at aami park is instant death..i mean they would need to close off parts of the bottom tiers as well for this. Yeah it wouldn't be a good start, they would need a couple of years lead in to build their stadium you would think and generate some genuine interest. If it's just the NPL clubs coming together, it's not getting the general public involved. But if there is a lead in, it could work, but you would have to think it's a long way off really. It's an interesting proposal this Casey united bid, I don't know what to think of it tbh.
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To be honest they're just following the south and Tasmania line of "we would be ready next year" only this is garbage.
Doesn't take a brain surgeon to realise the chances of a stadium built out there is extremely remote, they would be permanently based at AAMI park with training facilities in Casey.
If they were gonna play in the cbd area lakeside would at least create the illusion that they have some point of difference.
IMO no way the ffa goes for this, not even at the expense of SM and that's saying something.
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+xTo be honest they're just following the south and Tasmania line of "we would be ready next year" only this is garbage.Doesn't take a brain surgeon to realise the chances of a stadium built out there is extremely remote, they would be permanently based at AAMI park with training facilities in Casey.If they were gonna play in the cbd area lakeside would at least create the illusion that they have some point of difference.IMO no way the ffa goes for this, not even at the expense of SM and that's saying something. Agree mate. Pluss I think FFA already have their teams in mind, regardless of bids put forward. But we'll just have to wait and see, it's not over till the fat lady sings and the band is only warming up at this stage.
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Third Victorian team in the Dandenong catchment makes sense from a football growth point of view . Melbourne is serviced by both City and Victory and that is more than enough.
Football has to take advantage of the growth corridor that is South East Victoria . They are crying out for a sporting team to follow ever since the AFL gave the area the flick.
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The idea of 6 soccer clubs from different backgrounds coming together is very exciting and has never been done b4 in AUSTRALIA. This is the sort of thing the FFA will be looking for in their criteria. ITS CALLED BRINGING TOGETHER THE GRASSROOTS.
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+xThird Victorian team in the Dandenong catchment makes sense from a football growth point of view . Melbourne is serviced by both City and Victory and that is more than enough. Football has to take advantage of the growth corridor that is South East Victoria . They are crying out for a sporting team to follow ever since the AFL gave the area the flick. Dandenong used to have four small sided football courts (not sure if the right word) just opposite the station, there were always kids playing when I went past. Knox city has that football centre, it sounds great, I've never seen it. http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/council-hq/facilities/knox-regional-football-centre/So it's growing in participation for sure, it's still AFL heartland in terms of support though. So a small stadium and a lead in to drum up interest and excitement could do wonders and a good way of uniting different cultures. But a lot of work to be done.
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moops
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+xThe idea of 6 soccer clubs from different backgrounds coming together is very exciting and has never been done b4 in AUSTRALIA. This is the sort of thing the FFA will be looking for in their criteria. ITS CALLED BRINGING TOGETHER THE GRASSROOTS. I reckon that's the most exciting part about it, the Casey area is probably one of the most culturally diverse areas in Melb and why it could work. I don't think there has been much planning done though, which is why I don't think they are ready.
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+xThe idea of 6 soccer clubs from different backgrounds coming together is very exciting and has never been done b4 in AUSTRALIA. This is the sort of thing the FFA will be looking for in their criteria. ITS CALLED BRINGING TOGETHER THE GRASSROOTS. lol http://westernpridefc.com.au/about-western-pride-football-club/Ipswich did this half a decade ago.
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This bid along with south western Sydney make the most sense... I can see a small stadium being built for the C-D bid...
Question for a local...
Both the C-D bid and the SM bid are claiming south east Melbourne...
Can someone explain are they in the same area or are they different.
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The Dandenong bid is pie in the sky stuff.
Yes, it's a growth corridor out in the sticks (the outer Western suburbs are a growth corridor too, but you wouldn't put a new club out there). The Mayor is keen to get government funding to build a new stadium, and good on him, that's his job.
But the idea that such a club could be bigger than South in the short to medium term is too ridiculous for words.
Melbourne's inner-city stadium set-up works, it's proven - everything else is fantasy land.
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+xThe Dandenong bid is pie in the sky stuff. Yes, it's a growth corridor out in the sticks (the outer Western suburbs are a growth corridor too, but you wouldn't put a new club out there). The Mayor is keen to get government funding to build a new stadium, and good on him, that's his job. But the idea that such a club could be bigger than South in the short to medium term is too ridiculous for words. Melbourne's inner-city stadium set-up works, it's proven - everything else is fantasy land. Sticks? you have got to get out more
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