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+x+x+x+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogansHas anyone got the nrl stats? How so? League is legitimately played overseas and AFL isn't. Now whether the average NRL bogan knows/cares about who's on top of the PNG or French RL comps ATM is another matter, but you get the point. Well Aussie-rules is played in a few countries but as far as I know they're not professional ( but then we could call the NPL players non-professional ). Having said that most of their teams would have trouble beating most of our high-school teams, and many just play in parks with rules made up by ex-pat Aussies. :hehe:
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+x+x+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogansHas anyone got the nrl stats? How so? League is legitimately played overseas and AFL isn't. Now whether the average NRL bogan knows/cares about who's on top of the PNG or French RL comps ATM is another matter, but you get the point. Well Aussie-rules is played in a few countries but as far as I know they're not professional ( but then we could call the NPL players non-professional ). Having said that most of their teams would have trouble beating most of our high-school teams, and many just play in parks with rules made up by ex-pat Aussies.
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+x+xA few nights ago on Shootout, Cahill exhorted Aussies plain overseas to come home for regular game time under good coaches. He was talking up the quality of HAL coaches with uniform methodology, consistent with Ange's Socceroos. The only problem is he is making a fortune playing in the HAL. Most other Aussie players would have to drop their wages markedly to play HAL football. Having spent the last few years soaking up all the cash he could find in the USA and China, and having only returned to Australia because of the massive marquee deal the FFA was willing to support - it's a complete piss-take for Cahill to turn around and say anyone should be coming home. In one way it is hypocritical. On the other hand it is good him talking up the HAL. Until this article, I didn't realise the disparity between what players earn overseas, particularly The Gulf and China, compared to Australia - Cahill being the notable exception.
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+x+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogansHas anyone got the nrl stats? How so? League is legitimately played overseas and AFL isn't. Now whether the average NRL bogan knows/cares about who's on top of the PNG or French RL comps ATM is another matter, but you get the point.
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+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogans Has anyone got the nrl stats?
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+xA few nights ago on Shootout, Cahill exhorted Aussies plain overseas to come home for regular game time under good coaches. He was talking up the quality of HAL coaches with uniform methodology, consistent with Ange's Socceroos. The only problem is he is making a fortune playing in the HAL. Most other Aussie players would have to drop their wages markedly to play HAL football. Having spent the last few years soaking up all the cash he could find in the USA and China, and having only returned to Australia because of the massive marquee deal the FFA was willing to support - it's a complete piss-take for Cahill to turn around and say anyone should be coming home.
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Decentric
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A few nights ago on Shootout, Cahill exhorted Aussies plain overseas to come home for regular game time under good coaches. He was talking up the quality of HAL coaches with uniform methodology, consistent with Ange's Socceroos.
The only problem is he is making a fortune playing in the HAL. Most other Aussie players would have to drop their wages markedly to play HAL football.
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+x+x+xThey go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot. That makes sense. Remove the Asia + 1 and a lot of our Aussies making good $$$ In Asia will come back here. Look at the Chinese Super League for 2017 4 Australian Passports (Gulum counts as an Aussie).  Asia need to abolish the +1 rule, It serves no purpose
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Benjamin
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+xSome of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL. I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL? Benjamin? Aussie players have a huge advantage in Asia due to the +1 rule - if Topor-Stanley and co were French they wouldn't get a fraction of what they are earning in Asia.
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Could probably add Sainsbury, Spiranovic and Giannou to that list.
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+x+x+xI'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get. Andrew Bogut $15M Matthew Delladova $12.6M Aron Baynes $8.5M Ben Simmons $7.7M Dante Exum $5.2M Patty Mills $4.25M Thon Maker $3.4M Joe Ingles $2.8M That's impressive. Absolutely, Australian Basketball is on the verge of it's golden generation with some genuinely exciting players and will fully deserve some 2006 WC level hype when the next Olympics come around. Considering the prevalence of Soccer and the amount of talented Ballers that South East Melbourne is pumping out, the AFL should be shitting itself over what the future holds for it's junior systems. More kids are going to be obsessed with Ben Simmons (just like many were for Harry Kewell) than Cyril Rioli. That's the thing about the AFL though. It doesn't have to attract the most talented athlete possible. It doesn't need to compete with anything else so whoever the best players in the league are at any given time, they are the best in the world. Average players from 20 years earlier might have shit all over them but at the time it won't matter. It's all relative. The overall quality will look a little crapper but not by that much due to the nature of the chaotic sport in the first place.
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don't discount the impact that Patty Mills has on aboriginal kids as well. Just when the AFL is having scandal after scandal with racist fans etc, an articulate proud aussie who is also aboriginal is doing big things in the US. Comes back here pre-olympics and takes the boomers out to Central Australia, that is huge.
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+x+xThey go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot. That makes sense. Remove the Asia + 1 and a lot of our Aussies making good $$$ In Asia will come back here. Look at the Chinese Super League for 2017 4 Australian Passports (Gulum counts as an Aussie).
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+xCannot believe Aaron Mooy is not on that list he should go to China and earn a fair share of the pie. He's number 4 on the list
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Yes exactly. Our foreigners here are actually competing against the likes of Goulart, Conca, Ba, Gervinho Oscar, Ramires etc for spots and limited spots at that.
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+xThey go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot. That makes sense.
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They go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot.
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+x+x[quote]Some of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL. I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL? Benjamin? I reckon you'll find, particularly for the Spanish imports, that the economic situation in Spain has meant that A-League wages are now pretty good, and perhaps more importantly, they get paid on time. I'm wondering why bigger Gulf and Chinese money isn't more attractive to them, even if they risk them not being as reliable?
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+xSome of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL. I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL? Benjamin? I reckon you'll find, particularly for the Spanish imports, that the economic situation in Spain has meant that A-League wages are now pretty good, and perhaps more importantly, they get paid on time.
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Some of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL.
I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL?
Benjamin?
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+xNot really news as even some female surfers earn more than the highest earning afl players, but interesting to see what some of our players are on. Some of it is crazy money.
AFL trumped by soccer in football code pay stakes
SOCCER has thundered past Australian Rules as the nation’s most lucrative football code.
A Herald Sun investigation has revealed 23 Australian soccer players based in the A-league or overseas earn more than the AFL’s highest-paid stars Lance Franklin, Gary Ablett and Tom Boyd.
It comes as AFL players are locked in a bitter pay dispute with league chiefs over a demand for a fixed percentage of the game’s rising revenues.
The AFL’s $1 million men are Franklin, Ablett, Boyd, Nic Naitanui and Scott Pendlebury.
Superstars Patrick Dangerfield ($800,000), Nat Fyfe ($900,000), Joel Selwood ($850,000) and Alex Rance ($800,000) all fell short of the $1 million mark in 2016.
But Australian soccer’s top dogs earns five times more cash — China-based defenders Trent Sainsbury, 24, and Matthew Spiranovic, 28, both earn more than $5 million a year.
Sydney superstar is earning $1 million-plus a year, but that is nothing compared to what some Australian soccer players are collecting. Picture: David Caird
Melbourne City’s Tim Cahill will collect $4.7 million in his debut A-League season, former City star Aaron Mooy pockets $3.5 million a year on loan to Huddersfield Town in the English second tier from Manchester City.
Other big round-ball earners were Socceroos captain Mile Jedinak ($3.2 million, Aston Villa), Matthew Spiranovic ($2.5 million, Hangzhou Greentown) and Mat Ryan ($2.4 million, Valencia).
Former Manchester United and Chelsea star Mark Bosnich, who was earning almost $8 million a year in his prime, said soccer would always dominate.
“No disrespect to AFL, but they’re catering to a small domestic market, football is part of a world market,” he said.
“But AFL players should be getting a bigger slice of the pie. They get less than their soccer counterparts and there needs to be a realisation that people come to watch the players and not the guys upstairs.”
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan made $1.7 million in 2015, while A-League boss David Gallop was on $1.4m.
While the AFL has nine players on $800,000 to $950,000, another 12 to 15 Australian soccer players earn between $800,000 and $1.1 million.
The AFL has 850 players at an average of $300,000.
More than 160 Australian players are now playing in Europe and Asia, while there are 260 on A-League lists.
The A-League average wage is $180,000, a $145,000 rise from the last season of the NSL 12 years ago.
The advent of the A-League, the emergence of the lucrative Chinese market and the much-improved Socceroos pay conditions — players average $100,000 a year representing Australia and as much as $200,000 in a World Cup year — has seen soccer wages surge past AFL.
A-League stars will also strike an improved pay deal, with the FFA renegotiating the $40m-a-year TV contract, which expires in May.
The most common pay band for AFL stars is $100,000 to $200,000, which included 188 players in 2015, while 153 earned between $200,000 to $300,000.
Nobody earned more than $1m a year when the contract was averaged out.
The most recent AFL figures showed two players earned $1.2m in 2015, with some contracts being heavily back-ended or front-ended.
TOP AFL EARNERS 2016
Lance Franklin $1 million+
Tom Boyd $1 million+
Gary Ablett $1 million
Nic Naitanui $1 million
Scott Pendlebury $1 million
Jeremy Cameron $950,000
Nat Fyfe $900,000
Joel Selwood $850,000
Kurt Tippett $850,000
Patrick Dangerfield $800,000
Alex Rance $800,000
Dayne Beams $800,000
Jobe Watson $800,000
Travis Cloke $800,000
TOP AUSSIE SOCCER EARNERS 2016
1. Trent Sainsbury — Jiangsu (China) $5.2m
2. Matthew Spiranovic — Huangzhou (China) $5m
3. Tim Cahill — Melbourne City (Australia) $4.6m
4. Aaron Mooy — Huddersfield Town, loan (England) $3.5m
5. Mile Jedinak — Aston Villa (England) $3.2m
6. Mat Ryan — Valencia (Spain) $2.4m
7. Mitch Langerak — Stuttgart (Germany) $2.3m
8. Robbie Kruse — Bayer Leverkusen (Germany) $2.2m
9. Mark Milligan — Baniyas (UAE) $2.1m
10. Tom Rogic — Celtic (Scotland) $2m
11. Ryan McGowan — Henan Jianye (China) $2m
12. Mathew Leckie — Ingolstadt (Germany) $2m
13. Nathan Burns — FC Tokyo (Japan) $2m
14. Ersan Gulum — Hebei China Fortune (China) $1.9m
15. Apostolos Giannou — Guangzhou R&F (China) $1.9m
16. Massimo Luongo — QPR (England) $1.7m
17. Brad Smith — Bournemouth (England) $1.6m
18. Bailey Wright — Preston North End (England) $1.4m
19. Dario Vidosic — Liaoning Huongyun (China) $1.3m
20. Adam Federici — Bournemouth (England) $1.25m
21. Jason Davidson — Groningen, loan (Netherlands) $1.25m
22. Curtis Good — Newcastle United (England) $1.25m
23. Michael Thwaite — Liaoning Whowin (China) $1.25m
24. Aziz Behich — Bursaspor (Turkey) $1.2m
25. Nikolai Topor-Stanley — Hatta Club (UAE) $1.2m
* Salaries are based on official AFL and A-League figures and industry estimates
^ Some deals include accommodation/relocation and bonuses
# Includes average $100,000 Socceroos wages
When one sees the salaries available in China, The Gulf, and the Championship, who can blame players leaving Oz to play in these leagues? Particularly late in players' careers. This article really puts things into perspective. It was in our local tabloid yesterday.
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+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? Sign-makers are making a killing. 
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It's not rocket science. Afl costs 18x 10 million salary cap with Wage costs totalling around 180 million
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+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Remember the AFL filters a lot of money to grassroots so parents aren't having to take out a second mortgage to get their kids to play juniors. All that money spent on the kids and yet most of them opt for sockah.
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+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Remember the AFL filters a lot of money to grassroots so parents aren't having to take out a second mortgage to get their kids to play juniors.
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+xRe Pauline Hanson. Bogan afl states had the lowest one nation votes Funny, I always thought WA was an AFL state.
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I want the All Black's to earn some of those wages. I will have to get my mate at the NZRU to campaign the Aussies.
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+x+xI'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get. Andrew Bogut $15M Matthew Delladova $12.6M Aron Baynes $8.5M Ben Simmons $7.7M Dante Exum $5.2M Patty Mills $4.25M Thon Maker $3.4M Joe Ingles $2.8M That's impressive. Absolutely, Australian Basketball is on the verge of it's golden generation with some genuinely exciting players and will fully deserve some 2006 WC level hype when the next Olympics come around. Considering the prevalence of Soccer and the amount of talented Ballers that South East Melbourne is pumping out, the AFL should be shitting itself over what the future holds for it's junior systems. More kids are going to be obsessed with Ben Simmons (just like many were for Harry Kewell) than Cyril Rioli.
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+x+xSame with the NRL My question is, where does all there 1 billion dollar tv money go? The FFA are working miracles with a measly 40m dollar deal at the moment, imagine if they had access to even 500m deal. There must be some serious middle men in the ALF and NRL + With the Players association holding the game borderline hostage at times behind the scenes. With Shitje lol AFL/NRL would spend enormous amounts on marketing and paying for the game to be prominent in the media and probably a bit on making sure football is kept out of the media. I remember the local Blue Mountains paper was getting all this prominent local AFL stories with photos in the paper and there was maybe 1 or 2 clubs while the dozens of football clubs would be lucky to get the results published.
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JonoMV
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+xSame with the NRL My question is, where does all there 1 billion dollar tv money go? The FFA are working miracles with a measly 40m dollar deal at the moment, imagine if they had access to even 500m deal. There must be some serious middle men in the ALF and NRL + With the Players association holding the game borderline hostage at times behind the scenes. With Shitje lol
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