Well, no, the best way to promote my club is to remind you we are reigning HAL champions, first holders of the FFA cup, and first club to make the final of the Asian Champions League :)

Wellington isn't a well thought out strategic plan simply because they have been around for 10 years. It's procrastination. We have been sold this rubbish of a pot of gold in New Zealand since the FK days. It doesn't exist. When you make a caim about the future you're actualy required to deliver some tangible result in a couple of decades. It hasn't happened. At some point the bum son needs to be kicked out of home for his own good.

What do I wish for? NZ can concentrate on the football championship there, we can concentrate on the HAL here. Best of luck to them.

Yep they're part of it, no doubt.

Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it!

I'll take a well thought out strategic plan on expansion over knee jerk reactions any day!

And if the best way to promote your club is to heap scorn and bile on another club, well that reflects more on the strength of your clubs bid doesn't it?

There have been 7 crowds below 6k this season. 4 of them are Wellington home games (and they have only had 6 at that)

The scorn is on Wellington because they are the problem

They average 6619 against a league average of 13119. It doesn't get any more obvious than that.

Interesting how the average has been bloody ordinary, even during the Xmas holiday period and yet the scorn is on the Nix.

Questions need to be asked of most clubs figures if you ask me!

In the last round only Sydney and the Mariners can really hold their heads up although have done better in similar games in the past, with MV maybe a pass.

Based on the history of the A-League, and the Nsl in some cases, some of the projected attendance figures for some of the expansion teams are bordering on delusional.

Does any A-League team show long term consistent attendance growth?

Yet some of these new clubs will miracously double, triple or quadruple their attendance, based on what?

And even a cursory glance around the globe will tell you that not all derbies inflame the passions in the way others do!

Dragging the game down since 2007! You know there is 10 more years of this left don't you?.

11,597 last 6 rounds including games involving Wellington
12,657 last 6 rounds without games involving Wellington

Last six rounds averages

11,717
10,500
12,192
10,246
13,025
11,905

Round Thirteen

Games with less than 5k attendance Seasons 1-12 NOT including Finals matches. Total season games in brackets

Season One 10(84) 11.9%
Season Two 12(84) 14.3%
Season Three Nil(84) 0.00%
Season Four Nil(84) 0.00%
Season Five 13(135) 9.6%
Season Six 34(165) 25.2%
Season Seven 15(135) 11.11%
Season Eight 5(135) 3.7%
Season Nine Nil(135)0.0%
Season Ten 2(135)0.2%
Season Eleven 1(135)0.7%
Season Twelve 0(64)

Games between 5k and 10k attendance Seasons 1-12 Not including Finals. Total season games in brackets

Season One 28(84) 33.33%
Season Two 22(84) 26.9%
Season Three 20(84) 23.8%
Season Four 38(84) 45.2%
Season Five 79(135) 58.5%
Season Six 82(165) 49.7%
Season Seven 54(135) 40.0%
Season Eight 56(135) 41.4%
Season Nine 46(135)34%
Season Ten 60(135)44.4%
Season Eleven 53(135)39.3%
Season Twelve 22(64)

Games between 10k - 15k attendance Seasons 1-12 NOT including Finals matches. Total season games in brackets

Season One 31(84) 36.9%
Season Two 26(84) 31.0%
Season Three 34(84) 40.5%
Season Four 28(84) 33.33%
Season Five 24(135) 17.8%
Season Six 36(165) 23.63%
Season Seven 48(135)35.6%
Season Eight 39(135) 28.9%
Season Nine 48(135)35.6%
Season Ten 44(135)32.6%
Season Eleven 54(135)40.0%
Season Twelve 26(64)

Games with between 15k - 20k attendance Seasons 1-12 NOT including Finals matches. Total season games in brackets

Season One 11(84) 13.1%
Season Two 12(84) 14.3%
Season Three 16(84) 19.0%
Season Four 7(84) 8.3%
Season Five 11(135) 8.1%
Season Six 7(165) 4.2%
Season Seven 10(135) 7.4%
Season Eight 21(135) 15.6%
Season Nine 27(135) 20.0%
Season Ten 12(135)8.9%
Season Eleven 13(135)9.6%
Season Twelve 9(64)

Games with more than 20k attendance Seasons 1- 12 NOT including Finals matches. Total season games in brackets

Season One 4(84) 4.8%
Season Two 12(84) 14.3%
Season Three 14(84) 16.7%
Season Four 11(84) 13.1%
Season Five 8(135) 5.9%
Season Six 6(165) 4.4%
Season Seven 8(135) 5.9%
Season Eight 14(135) 10.4%
Season Nine 14(135)10.4%
Season Ten 17(135)12.6%
Season Eleven 14(135)10.4%
Season Twelve 7(64)

Regular Season Round Thirteen

Season Nine(135) 1,761,161
Season Ten(135) - 1,689,510
Season Eleven(135) 1,662,729
Season Eight(135) 1,661,830
Season Seven(135) 1,415,782
Season Six(165) 1,384,902 .
Season Five(135) 1,322,475
Season Three(84) 1,227,273
Season Two(84) 1,085,829
Season Four(84) 1,023,147
Season One(84) 920,219
Season Twelve(64) 845,586

Regular Season Averages by season

Season One 10,955
Season Two 12,927
Season Three 14,610
Season Four 12,180
Season Five 9,796
Season Six 8,393
Season Seven 10,487
Season Eight 12,310
Season Nine 13,046
Season Ten 12,515
Season Eleven 12,317
Season Twelve 13,212

Season average, by average

Season Three 14,610
Season Twelve 13,212
Season Nine 13,046
Season Two 12,927
Season Ten 12,515
Season Eleven 12,317
Season Eight 12,310
Season Four 12,180
Season One 10,955
Season Seven 10,487
Season Five 9,796
Season Six 8,393

Finals Attendances

Season One(6)126,237
Season Two(6)177,672
Season Three(6)154,118
Season Four(6)143,819
Season Five(7)151,206
Season Six(7)121,635
Season Seven(7)119,147
Season Eight(5) 105,255
Season Nine (5) 128,566
Season Ten (6) 137,825
Season Eleven (5) 117,122

Regular season plus finals

Season Nine(135) 1,761,161 + (5) 128,566 = 1,889,727
Season Ten(135) 1,689,510 + (5) 137,825 = 1,827,335
Season Eleven(135) 1,662,729+ (5) 117,122 = 1,779,851
Season Eight(135) 1,661,830 + (5) 105,255 = 1,767,085
Season Seven(135) 1,415,782 +(7)119,147 = 1,534,929
Season Six(165) 1,384,902 +(7)121,635 = 1,506,537
Season Five(135) 1,322,475 +(7)151,206 = 1,473,681
Season Three(84) 1,227,273 + (6)154,118 = 1,381,391
Season Two(84) 1,085,829 + (6)177,672 = 1,263,501
Season Four(84) 1,023,147 + (6)143,819 = 1,166,966
Season One(84) 920,219 + (6)126,237 = 1,046,456
Season Twelve(64) 845,586 + (0) = 845,586

Season One(84) 920,219 + (6)126,237 = 1,046,456
Season Two(84) 1,085,829 + (6)177,672 = 1,263,501
Season Three(84) 1,227,273 + (6)154,118 = 1,381,391
Season Four(84) 1,023,147 + (6)143,819 = 1,166,966
Season Five(135) 1,322,475 +(7)151,206 = 1,473,681
Season Six(165) 1,384,902 +(7)121,635 = 1,506,537
Season Seven(135) 1,415,782 +(7)119,147 = 1,534,929
Season Eight(135) 1,661,830 + (5)105,255= 1,767,085
Season Nine(135) 1,761,161 + (5) 128,566 = 1,889,727
Season Ten(135) 1,689,510 + (4) 137,825 = 1,827,335
Season Eleven(135) 1,662,729+ (5) 117,122 = 1,779,851
Season Twelve{64) 845,586 + (0) = 845,586

Sydney FC v Brisbane Roar - 16,510
Central Coast Mariners v Melbourne City - 11,184
Wellington Phoenix v Adelaide United - 5,548
Western Sydney Wanderers v Perth Glory - 12,203
Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets - 14,081


Round Total - 59,526
Round Average - 11,905

Season Total (64 games) - 845,586
Season Average (64 games) - 13,212

But if they ever live up to that potential you see, what a club.

The crowd looked ok on tv for what it was worth.
Say if the FFA did expand there for their own purposes, i'm wondering what a crowd of half that would look like on TV and atmosphere...
You could bring the pitch towards one end which i'd suggest would be the "Players Stand End" which is right hand side of TV screen but it wouldn't be that flash still.

Can't even claim we're just being opportunistic and dogging a team in their off year. They're rubbish year after year and being rewarded for it.

Good round of crowds minus the club that is dragging the whole league down.

#Nixoutnow

14081 at kardinia park

well i thought the wellington game would get 35k so obviously it's shit

Previous page had predictions (knowing weather was going to be an issue) of 13.5 and 15K
Nix predictions were 8 and 9k

So on that basis, they are on a par, 2 to 3k below expectations (not that they are any official predictions).

And couldn't score against the league's worst team in a boring ass game in an empty fucking stadium. A spade is a spade Joff, the Nux are shit  

You just knew Joffa would jump in to defend his beloved club Wellington Pheonix :laugh: How anyone can defend a crowd that low is beyond me, even nomates a real Wellington fan gave it shit. 

I think i just did lol

So you just got out from under that rock you live in.

A thing called New years eve just happened last night but you seemed to have missed it.

Confirm for me weather this is the largest after new years crowd for WSW?

Please explain how 12k for WSW is good, thanks?

So you just got out from under that rock you live in.

A thing called New years eve just happened last night but you seemed to have missed it.

Confirm for me weather this is the largest after new years crowd for WSW?

And if they don't?

So 12k for WSW is good and 6k for Nix is bad, Cheers got it !

Mate every year WSW gets the after new year time slot.

This is our largest attendance after new years so far.

Sydney FC v Brisbane Roar - 16,510
Central Coast Mariners v Melbourne City - 11,184
Wellington Phoenix v Adelaide United - 5,548
Western Sydney Wanderers v Perth Glory - 12,203

I want SMFC in so badly it actually hurts. Derbies against us + City, more marquee matches to sell the league and we bridge another gap to the NSL days.

You would average 10k non-derby in an instant and probably land up 12-13k when you take into account derbies.

I think we should get the nix license.

By all means bring in tassie, Wollongong etc as part of natural expansion.

But whenever it's time for them to get the tap on the shoulder I think we represent the best in/out scenario in quick time.