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+xIt doesn't even force coaches into a different mindset, it would be awesome to see Amor coaching with the threat of relegation looming on his head. Every single aspect of that club would need tinkering/change from top to bottom to rescue the situation.As it stands the same crap team will be out on the field every week, amor will look like he doesn't give a shit, and the board and fans will continue to hammer eachother for the next few months. But At the end of the day it's all meaningless as Adelaide can just press the reset button at seasons end. Yeah the whole club would adjust if there was relegation on the cards. From here til the end of the season we'll just be going through the motions
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Bigger crowd than City :laugh:
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Well for me its hard to attend matches when all bar one starts at 7:50 and you have to travel an hour and a half down the road, for a club that prides itself on its strong family base the fixturing for regional and younger fans has been terrible.
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+x+x+x10036 in adelaide, source au twitter Poor but not unexpected, most Adelaide fans have dropped off now. Poor???? We're bottom of the ladder and it's been 42 degrees today. Jesus Christ The funny thing is that Melb City get a bigger crowd than the reigning champs playing their fiercest rival and are still given crap, whereas with Adeliade the excuses are somehow warranted? Nup i dont buy it. If the attendance for.city are shit then for.adelaide it must be considered disastrous when u consider that coming back from last place is not out of the ordinary for Adelaide so fans shouldnt be dropping off.at such an alarming rate.
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+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. But then one would.still.get relegated and also carry a big.amount of.debt for.the failed attempt in january to try and rectify the problems.on the field. Then the following years the club would go bankrupt and basically cease to exist. That's the major.risk.of.having pro/rel in a market like ours.
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+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given.
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+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. 1) city have been the face of the league this year/yoshi and most gimmicks have been thrown at them 2) Cahill 3) most exepensive squad in australian football history. Nobody is suggesting they should be selling out aami park, but being 1 of the 3 teams that can actually win this thing i dont think expecting a few thousand more would be unreasoable. I wouldnt watch adelaide if they played in my backyard they have lost all goodwill from last years championship
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+x+x+x+x10036 in adelaide, source au twitter Poor but not unexpected, most Adelaide fans have dropped off now. Poor???? We're bottom of the ladder and it's been 42 degrees today. Jesus Christ The funny thing is that Melb City get a bigger crowd than the reigning champs playing their fiercest rival and are still given crap, whereas with Adeliade the excuses are somehow warranted? Nup i dont buy it. If the attendance for.city are shit then for.adelaide it must be considered disastrous when u consider that coming back from last place is not out of the ordinary for Adelaide so fans shouldnt be dropping off.at such an alarming rate. We still average more than City this season, despite City having a home derby crowd against Victory and Tim Cahill in their team. And we're last. And somehow City gets the better crowds. Fair dinkum mate, here's one for you. In the 10/11 season Sydney had a lower average than Central Coast (and almost every team in the league). Central Farkn Coast!!!
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I don't think the City crowd was that bad considering the weather and how they've been playing. It just goes to show you while Cahill has been a nice addition for them - you can't go past a big name European marquee for a bump up in crowds. Villa played there when they were still a rabble and the top tier was open for games against the likes of Newcastle. You just wouldn't get that with Timmy.
BTW South Melb above mentioned Yoshi. It was good to market to HAL season at the start but I don't think it's done literally anything for City. Supporters of clubs don't really buy into these gimmicks. It was more to drum up the hype.
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+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. Over react much? I thought it was funny that CCM pulled a bigger crowd than city, seems like you are the only one having a whinge :laugh:
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Great to see the support for the game in Gosford. And a great response from the CCM players. Pity the ref and linesman weren't up to the job!
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+x+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. But then one would.still.get relegated and also carry a big.amount of.debt for.the failed attempt in january to try and rectify the problems.on the field. Then the following years the club would go bankrupt and basically cease to exist. That's the major.risk.of.having pro/rel in a market like ours. Bit of a doomsday prediction. Not every team will do a Portsmouth
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+x+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. But then one would.still.get relegated and also carry a big.amount of.debt for.the failed attempt in january to try and rectify the problems.on the field. Then the following years the club would go bankrupt and basically cease to exist. That's the major.risk.of.having pro/rel in a market like ours. Thats subjective tbf. How they would go about it would be dependent on their backers and their situation with their youth side. Playing football is always a risk. There's a risk Adelaide will lose members and players.
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+x+x+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. But then one would.still.get relegated and also carry a big.amount of.debt for.the failed attempt in january to try and rectify the problems.on the field. Then the following years the club would go bankrupt and basically cease to exist. That's the major.risk.of.having pro/rel in a market like ours. Bit of a doomsday prediction. Not every team will do a Portsmouth Lets say that Adelaide got relegated. The odds of them coming straight back up would be fairly high. The support could be even greater. Everyone looking at a pokey prediction. Neglects Rangers, Juve, Boca etc. Not to mention internacional this season went down for the first time in Brazil.
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In other words dont sell me bullshit.
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+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. 1) city have been the face of the league this year/yoshi and most gimmicks have been thrown at them 2) Cahill 3) most exepensive squad in australian football history. Nobody is suggesting they should be selling out aami park, but being 1 of the 3 teams that can actually win this thing i dont think expecting a few thousand more would be unreasoable. I wouldnt watch adelaide if they played in my backyard they have lost all goodwill from last years championship If you look at City's average crowds from 2010 onwards you would see that it has been increasing year by year. This year by exactly a few thousand more as expected. People didn't surely think that Cahill would excite football supporters as the likes of ADP would or any other big international player do they?? Everyone has seen Cahill play at some stage, just by being in the national team. He's also not the type of exciting prospect that other number 10's or strikers provide.
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+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. Over react much? I thought it was funny that CCM pulled a bigger crowd than city, seems like you are the only one having a whinge :laugh: Over react? Nah just sick of hearing the constant whinge that City crowds are shit, as if they should be at some ridiculous high level to start with. At the start of this season I had them down to avg at around 12k-13k. They are currently just below that, but as mentioned just before, have been trending up year on year for the past 5 seasons: 12/13 = 8,560 13/14 = 9,799 14/15 = 10,374 15/16 = 11,062 16/17 = 11,452 (including home mid week games).
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+x+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. 1) city have been the face of the league this year/yoshi and most gimmicks have been thrown at them 2) Cahill 3) most exepensive squad in australian football history. Nobody is suggesting they should be selling out aami park, but being 1 of the 3 teams that can actually win this thing i dont think expecting a few thousand more would be unreasoable. I wouldnt watch adelaide if they played in my backyard they have lost all goodwill from last years championship People didn't surely think that Cahill would excite football supporters as the likes of ADP would or any other big international player do they?? Everyone has seen Cahill play at some stage, just by being in the national team. He's also not the type of exciting prospect that other number 10's or strikers provide. Then why are the FFA part-funding his wages if he's had no discernible impact on City crowds? Wasn't that whole point of this guest marquee spot, to put bums on seats?
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+x+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. 1) city have been the face of the league this year/yoshi and most gimmicks have been thrown at them 2) Cahill 3) most exepensive squad in australian football history. Nobody is suggesting they should be selling out aami park, but being 1 of the 3 teams that can actually win this thing i dont think expecting a few thousand more would be unreasoable. I wouldnt watch adelaide if they played in my backyard they have lost all goodwill from last years championship If you look at City's average crowds from 2010 onwards you would see that it has been increasing year by year. This year by exactly a few thousand more as expected. People didn't surely think that Cahill would excite football supporters as the likes of ADP would or any other big international player do they?? Everyone has seen Cahill play at some stage, just by being in the national team. He's also not the type of exciting prospect that other number 10's or strikers provide. Well before cfg came along hardly anyone in this melbourne knew heart existed, does the growth meet the expectations relative to the spend and hype thats the question.
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+x+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. Over react much? I thought it was funny that CCM pulled a bigger crowd than city, seems like you are the only one having a whinge :laugh: Over react? Nah just sick of hearing the constant whinge that City crowds are shit, as if they should be at some ridiculous high level to start with. At the start of this season I had them down to avg at around 12k-13k. They are currently just below that, but as mentioned just before, have been trending up year on year for the past 5 seasons: 12/13 = 8,560 13/14 = 9,799 14/15 = 10,374 15/16 = 11,062 16/17 = 11,452 (including home mid week games). Who's whinging? I'm having a laugh, people take crowd numbers way to seriously when there are bigger problems in the A-League.
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+x+x+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. 1) city have been the face of the league this year/yoshi and most gimmicks have been thrown at them 2) Cahill 3) most exepensive squad in australian football history. Nobody is suggesting they should be selling out aami park, but being 1 of the 3 teams that can actually win this thing i dont think expecting a few thousand more would be unreasoable. I wouldnt watch adelaide if they played in my backyard they have lost all goodwill from last years championship If you look at City's average crowds from 2010 onwards you would see that it has been increasing year by year. This year by exactly a few thousand more as expected. People didn't surely think that Cahill would excite football supporters as the likes of ADP would or any other big international player do they?? Everyone has seen Cahill play at some stage, just by being in the national team. He's also not the type of exciting prospect that other number 10's or strikers provide. Well before cfg came along hardly anyone in this melbourne knew heart existed, does the growth meet the expectations relative to the spend and hype thats the question. So what are you suggesting??? To fold the club? To replace it with South Melbourne? Here we are screaming out for investment in our game... The one club that has spent the most on investment in our game in the history of our country continues to cop abuse by most and is seen in a negative way for spending money. Absolutely atrocious! and you call yourselves Australian Football Fans!
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBigger crowd than City :laugh: And Adelaide, the reigning champs who played their fiercest rival. Yes in last place but nothing new to them. Also in a city all theirs with no.competing club. Hilarious.that people keep picking on Citys crowds in that tall.poppy way because they are now well.funded and trying to.establish themselves as a.bigger.more professional club. But yea carry on whinge for City. Its actually almost hilarious how much stigma there is around City as if they have won multiple titles and deserve to be hitting high attendances as a given. 1) city have been the face of the league this year/yoshi and most gimmicks have been thrown at them 2) Cahill 3) most exepensive squad in australian football history. Nobody is suggesting they should be selling out aami park, but being 1 of the 3 teams that can actually win this thing i dont think expecting a few thousand more would be unreasoable. I wouldnt watch adelaide if they played in my backyard they have lost all goodwill from last years championship If you look at City's average crowds from 2010 onwards you would see that it has been increasing year by year. This year by exactly a few thousand more as expected. People didn't surely think that Cahill would excite football supporters as the likes of ADP would or any other big international player do they?? Everyone has seen Cahill play at some stage, just by being in the national team. He's also not the type of exciting prospect that other number 10's or strikers provide. Well before cfg came along hardly anyone in this melbourne knew heart existed, does the growth meet the expectations relative to the spend and hype thats the question. So what are you suggesting??? To fold the club? To replace it with South Melbourne? Here we are screaming out for investment in our game... The one club that has spent the most on investment in our game in the history of our country continues to cop abuse by most and is seen in a negative way for spending money. Absolutely atrocious! and you call yourselves Australian Football Fans! It shows 2 things, fans are fickle, and it does cost a lot of $$$$$$$$$$ to turn around some bad decisions, aka Heart. Glad you have stuck with them.
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It shows City fans are too sensitive, your crowds are up about 40% since you were formed, you've created a meaningful derby, if year on year growth continues you'll soon average 13-14k similar to WSW/Roar so just relax lol
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+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. And then when they get relegated the clubs will fold because Australia doesn't have anywhere near enough of a football culture to support a second division. Pro/Rel talk makes me cringe so hard when we only have 10 teams, majority of which are bleeding money
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+x+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. And then when they get relegated the clubs will fold because Australia doesn't have anywhere near enough of a football culture to support a second division. Pro/Rel talk makes me cringe so hard when we only have 10 teams, majority of which are bleeding money Well let's wait til all 10 clubs run a profit then we can move the game forward :)
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+x+x+x+x+xThat was a good crowd for Adelaide last night, the team is pure garbage you are subjecting yourself to 90 minutes of torture watching that crap.10,000 though would easily be 15,000 if the team was a threat of being relegated, and you could bet they would be hitting the transfer window hard, you think they would stick it out with that dud guardiola up front if they were a threat for the drop? Holland would be looking for an npl contract as well. Instead Adelaide fans have to watch another few months of this crap without any hope for improved results. I don't understand the mentality of salary caps and protecting the shit teams. It's insanity and does nothing to help football. Clubs at the bottom would be forced into gear with the threat of relegation. And then when they get relegated the clubs will fold because Australia doesn't have anywhere near enough of a football culture to support a second division. Pro/Rel talk makes me cringe so hard when we only have 10 teams, majority of which are bleeding money Well let's wait til all 10 clubs run a profit then we can move the game forward :) :hehe:
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Why would a club fold if they have the opportunity to immediately come back up?
Ex NSL clubs have been relegated from the premier leagues down and come back up without the threat of folding.
This whole we don't have the culture is the biggest cop out.
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+xWhy would a club fold if they have the opportunity to immediately come back up?Ex NSL clubs have been relegated from the premier leagues down and come back up without the threat of folding. This whole we don't have the culture is the biggest cop out. Very different ball game, the NPL and the A-league. At a national leave we have NEVER had a proper rel/pro system
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If one thing the City Football Group are , is they are patient. They showed that with Man City as it took 5 or 6 years of continuous investment before they became a force. . They are not one for rash decisions.
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