Swarth
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+x+x+xCan't see how it's homophobic. Lewd yes. A cock sucker is a cock sucker, has nothing to do with being male or female. It so happens that graham Arnold is a man, if it was Gracie Arnold then it would have been a woman.People need to get off their pic high horses about this one. You're delusional if you think that it is about a man sucking another mans dick. Maybe the dick in the tifo belonged to a transgender person, it wasn't stipulated. Maybe it was a life like strap on. Are we living in some kind of nanny state or what. It was a bit of fun. Why is being a cock sucker a bad thing? It is a generic insult. To try and tie this up with other issues in society is ridiculous. It is the same as calling someone a gay c*nt. It is nothing more than a generic insult these days. Punish them for being lewd, homophobia is taking the fucking piss. thank you 100% agree
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+x+x+x+xCan't see how it's homophobic. Lewd yes. A cock sucker is a cock sucker, has nothing to do with being male or female. It so happens that graham Arnold is a man, if it was Gracie Arnold then it would have been a woman.People need to get off their pic high horses about this one. You're delusional if you think that it is about a man sucking another mans dick. Maybe the dick in the tifo belonged to a transgender person, it wasn't stipulated. Maybe it was a life like strap on. Are we living in some kind of nanny state or what. It was a bit of fun. Why is being a cock sucker a bad thing? I didn't say it was a bad thing. Why is fucking a mother seen as a bad thing when people insult people by calling them motherfucker. They aren't, they are just generic based insults, tied back to a past that we don't experience anymore. It would be unnecessarily PC to jump on a band wagon about this. Thing is its hardly the first time. That can't be denied. But the same could be said of your club and for most clubs in our league and other leagues around the world.
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paladisious
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No need to go into an argument about homophobia in claiming that a giant cock tifo isn't appropriate at an A-League game, in any context.
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paladisious
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From twitter: A bunch of men who stand arm in arm stripped to the waist to show off their muscle bound and sweaty torsos did this. Just saying.
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+xgiant cock tifo isn't appropriate at an A-League game, giant cock should be a two point dock
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paladisious
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+x+xgiant cock tifo isn't appropriate at an A-League game, giant cock should be a two point dock Docks for cocks.
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+xNo need to go into an argument about homophobia in claiming that a giant cock tifo isn't appropriate at an A-League game, in any context. That is true, it is crude and inappropriate no matter the motivation.
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+x+x+x+xCan't see how it's homophobic. Lewd yes. A cock sucker is a cock sucker, has nothing to do with being male or female. It so happens that graham Arnold is a man, if it was Gracie Arnold then it would have been a woman.People need to get off their pic high horses about this one. You're delusional if you think that it is about a man sucking another mans dick. Maybe the dick in the tifo belonged to a transgender person, it wasn't stipulated. Maybe it was a life like strap on. Are we living in some kind of nanny state or what. It was a bit of fun. Why is being a cock sucker a bad thing? It is a generic insult. To try and tie this up with other issues in society is ridiculous. It is the same as calling someone a gay c*nt. It is nothing more than a generic insult these days. Punish them for being lewd, homophobia is taking the fucking piss. thank you 100% agree There's a world of difference between unthoughtfully calling someone a homophobic slur and deciding to make a tifo of a man sucking a cock, spending hours creating the tifo of a man sucking a cock and then spending an entire match waiting for the exact moment that you should unfurl a tifo of a man sucking a cock before proceeding to action that tifo in a lewd way. One is excusable as it's in the moment, the other is deliberative thinking over days/weeks about this great tifo you're going to use which is, unambiguously, homophobic. I was actually coming into this thread to say SFC should probably also be called out for their fans' bottle chucking tantrum, but fuck me it's ridiculous when people attempt to defend this shit.
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Nothing wrong with a blowie. -PB
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The FFA are the ones being homophobic in thinking this banner is disgusting. It's fine for FFA to say the banner was inappropriate considering the kids around but to say it's homophobic I think the FFA should take a good look at themselves.
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+xNothing wrong with a blowie. -PB It upsets Steven Lowy.
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Is saying 'suck my cock' homophobic? It's an offensive, childish metaphor intended to convey that the speaker has power over the recipient, but I'm not sure it's homophobic.
Aside from this being totally inappropriate at the A-League, I think the issue is more that it is insinuating domination and superiority through a sexual act, rather than the RBB addressing the genders and attraction of those involved.
But overall, incredibly juvenile and hope they lose all 3 points : )
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+xIs saying 'suck my cock' homophobic? Man says, suck my cock = Homophopic ? Woman says, suck my vag = Sexy ?
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RedKat
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+xNo need to go into an argument about homophobia in claiming that a giant cock tifo isn't appropriate at an A-League game, in any context. This. If people cant see the offence they need to get their head out of the sand.
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RBBAnonymous
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+xIs saying 'suck my cock' homophobic? It's an offensive, childish metaphor intended to convey that the speaker has power over the recipient, but I'm not sure it's homophobic. Aside from this being totally inappropriate at the A-League, I think the issue is more that it is insinuating domination and superiority through a sexual act, rather than the RBB addressing the genders and attraction of those involved. But overall, incredibly juvenile and hope they lose all 3 points : ) Will be harsh if we lose 3 points. In fact there has been much worse said by CEO's and no punishments were handed out. Personally I think it was mean't to be a homophobic slur. If it was it has little meaning because we would have plenty of homosexuals within the Wanderers anyway. The TIFO is just in poor taste.
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+xFrom twitter: A bunch of men who stand arm in arm stripped to the waist to show off their muscle bound and sweaty torsos did this. Just saying. Ding Ding Ding
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Swarth
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+x+xIs saying 'suck my cock' homophobic? Man says, suck my cock = Homophopic ? Woman says, suck my vag = Sexy ? Woman says, suck my cock= ? that post makes a lot of sense a lot of sexual stuff is related to power more than anything
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RBBAnonymous
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+x+x+xIs saying 'suck my cock' homophobic? Man says, suck my cock = Homophopic ? Woman says, suck my vag = Sexy ? Woman says, suck my cock= ? that post makes a lot of sense a lot of sexual stuff is related to power more than anything Hard to argue except for the fact that the "man in the TIFO" did look a lot like Graham Arnold.
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paladisious
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+x+xFrom twitter: A bunch of men who stand arm in arm stripped to the waist to show off their muscle bound and sweaty torsos did this. Just saying. Ding Ding Ding More like dong dong dong.
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paladisious
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+x+xNothing wrong with a blowie. -PB It upsets Steven Lowy. did lol
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Swarth
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+x+x+x+xIs saying 'suck my cock' homophobic? Man says, suck my cock = Homophopic ? Woman says, suck my vag = Sexy ? Woman says, suck my cock= ? that post makes a lot of sense a lot of sexual stuff is related to power more than anything Hard to argue except for the fact that the "man in the TIFO" did look a lot like Graham Arnold. we have power over graham arnold? i can read too much into it too :P
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 Good job smurfs
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I'll call it now- Squires will use this incident to appeal to your typical Guardian reader and make some statement along the lines of "If you don't think this is homophobic, here's your One Nation t-shirt" and manage to shoe-horn a reference suggesting Donald Trump supports the RBB in all of this...
There are only two intellectually honest debate tactics: (a) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s facts, or (b) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s logic. All other debate tactics are intellectually dishonest - John T. Reed
The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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+xI'll call it now- Squires will use this incident to appeal to your typical Guardian reader and make some statement along the lines of "If you don't think this is homophobic, here's your One Nation t-shirt". Shall we wager? I think he'll make some dick puns and not go into homophobia.
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+x+xI'll call it now- Squires will use this incident to appeal to your typical Guardian reader and make some statement along the lines of "If you don't think this is homophobic, here's your One Nation t-shirt". Shall we wager? I think he'll make some dick puns and not go into homophobia. What would you suggest as the wager?
There are only two intellectually honest debate tactics: (a) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s facts, or (b) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s logic. All other debate tactics are intellectually dishonest - John T. Reed
The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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Swarth
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+x Good job smurfs not Mel
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paladisious
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+x+x+xI'll call it now- Squires will use this incident to appeal to your typical Guardian reader and make some statement along the lines of "If you don't think this is homophobic, here's your One Nation t-shirt". Shall we wager? I think he'll make some dick puns and not go into homophobia. What would you suggest as the wager? Happy to chuck a $20 on it (known around here as a wamackie). We may need some independent adjudication to decide whether his comic will go into hyperbole over homophobia and where dick puns end and the above allegations begin, as of course there can be plenty of shades of meaning in a comic strip.
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+x+x Good job smurfs not Mel Say it aint so! Surely she turned in a perfectly level headed and balanced report on the newsworthy matter and the higher ups chucked in the more divisive headline. Surely.
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