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We haven't 'sold out', Football South Coast boss tells criticsCritics accusing Football South Coast of "ssellling out" by supporting the Southern Expansion A-League bid have no idea, says Football South Coast chairman Eddy De Gabriele. By Greg Prichard 7 MAR 2017 - 10:08 PM UPDATED 1 HOUR AGO De Gabriele has moved to clarify FSC's position since it was revealed on Monday the association was backing the new Sydney based Southern Expansion group's bid to gain admission to the A-League. He said that didn't change the fact FSC was also backing the stand-alone bid by the Wollongong Wolves club and that the association had deliberately avoided locking itself into any exclusivity agreements with either group. "It's a two-horse race here and if there is an A-League licence going to be issued for southern Sydney or Wollongong then we're going to be associated with it, " De Gabriele told The World Game. "That's the beauty of the approach we're taking - if there is a winner, then we'll be backing it." De Gabriele was not concerned with criticism FSC was hedging its bets. "Oh, they've started already, 'selling out the region' and that sort of stuff, but that's OK," he said. "They don't know the full story and when you're giving out information it's sometimes hard to cover everything off and make the picture totally clear. "We haven't gone with one bid at the expense of the other and (Wolves CEO) Chris Papakosmas has himself made it clear publicly that we're supporting both bids." De Gabriele said that at the end of the day FFA was going to make its own decision on what it thought was best for the game anyway and that if expansion went ahead FSC had a duty to its clubs, players and the region to best position itself. "I could stand up and says it's stand alone until I die and they could say 'OK, good luck to you guys, we might consider you in another five years' time'," he said. "There are two bids and they can't both make it. It's up to both of them to impress FFA when the time comes for expansion, so we'll let them fight it out. We're being up-front in that we don't want to miss out. If the area gains representation, then we've guaranteed we've backed the winner. "If it's stand-alone, we get exposure. If it's the southern corridor, FSC is still tied in and we've got a good rapport with both Sutherland Shire and St George." The Sutherland Shire and St George associations are also backing the Southern Expansion bid. De Gabriele said the memorandum of understanding FSC had signed with Southern Expansion was non-exclusive, the same as the MOU it signed more than a year ago with the previous management of the Wolves but which still stands. "If A-League football is going to be in this region and FFA decide on a hybrid model, then we don't want to be excluded as a football association for our kids," he said. "We're supporting the Southern Expansion bid because we were impressed by what they showed us and we told the Wolves 13 months ago that we'd support their bid as long as it had financial sustainability and could show the necessary evidence of financial support when the time comes." De Gabriele said FSC was not prepared to support just any bid and that if they thought the quality of a bid was poor they wouldn't back it. FFA has delayed the release of expansion criteria for interested bids, but season 2018-2019 is still in the frame for the possible addition of two clubs. De Gabriele said Southern Expansion did not push FSC for an exclusivity agreement. "They never asked that of us and they fully understood our position," he said. "When someone wants exclusivity in a situation like this it means they're not that confident, but that hasn't happened in either of the groups so far, I've got to say. "Our interest is in what is best for the community, football-wise, and that is to have the south coast represented in the A-League, W-League and national Youth League. "At this stage we know more about the Southern Expansion bid simply because of the way things have unfolded. They detailed their vision and their plan and have demonstrated their financial strength. "If at the right time the Wolves want to get some sort of support from Football South Coast to present in a letter or submission to FFA, they will have to come to us with the business model and we'll of course sign a non-disclosure agreement. "But there's no need for that at this stage. There's no criteria, no bid process. I'm sure when the process starts we'll receive more presentations from both the Wolves and the new group. "We want to be sure about longevity. We don't want to risk being involved in something that lasts for three years and then it's gone."
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+xCampbelltown IMO is the next logical place to put the next Sydney team... massive growth area and the Wests Tigers play only 4 games a year .. a nice stadium next to a railway station and close to major roads... The Southern bid will effect SFC and to deny this by the bid folk is well I think outright lying ... the south western corridor is set for massive population numbers as is just as close to the gong as in fact according to google maps ... the gong to Cronulla is 1 hr 1 mim .. the gong to Campbelltown is 47 mins... For me the answer is obvious where the next Sydney team should go. Start at Cambelltown - and maybe have an Academy and training fields there but I think if Red Bull are going to build a stadium that Liverpool on the Woodward Park site would be the place. The whole area from Liverpool west to Wallacia south to Mowbray Park, east to Wilton and back to Liverpool is slated for huge growth and infrastructure.
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+x+xCampbelltown IMO is the next logical place to put the next Sydney team... massive growth area and the Wests Tigers play only 4 games a year .. a nice stadium next to a railway station and close to major roads... The Southern bid will effect SFC and to deny this by the bid folk is well I think outright lying ... the south western corridor is set for massive population numbers as is just as close to the gong as in fact according to google maps ... the gong to Cronulla is 1 hr 1 mim .. the gong to Campbelltown is 47 mins... For me the answer is obvious where the next Sydney team should go. Start at Cambelltown - and maybe have an Academy and training fields there but I think if Red Bull are going to build a stadium that Liverpool on the Woodward Park site would be the place. The whole area from Liverpool west to Wallacia south to Mowbray Park, east to Wilton and back to Liverpool is slated for huge growth and infrastructure. Red Bull couldn't build a private stadium on a Public Reserve so Woodward Park is out. The only location I can think of for a private stadium is the Hurlstone Agricultural College farm at Glenfield. The college is being moved to Richmond and the Government intends to use the land for selected community purposes and housing. Red Bull could buy a portion of the land a few hundred metres from Glenfield Station. Its a great location transport wise. Direct line to the east, Sydney Airport and the city. Direct line north to Liverpool, Parramatta and the city. Direct line south to Campbelltown. Direct line west to Leppington which is to be extended to the new airport and Camden in the future. Within 5 minutes of the freeways/motorways north, south and east. Not good for restaurants, pubs etc.
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+x+x+xCampbelltown IMO is the next logical place to put the next Sydney team... massive growth area and the Wests Tigers play only 4 games a year .. a nice stadium next to a railway station and close to major roads... The Southern bid will effect SFC and to deny this by the bid folk is well I think outright lying ... the south western corridor is set for massive population numbers as is just as close to the gong as in fact according to google maps ... the gong to Cronulla is 1 hr 1 mim .. the gong to Campbelltown is 47 mins... For me the answer is obvious where the next Sydney team should go. Start at Cambelltown - and maybe have an Academy and training fields there but I think if Red Bull are going to build a stadium that Liverpool on the Woodward Park site would be the place. The whole area from Liverpool west to Wallacia south to Mowbray Park, east to Wilton and back to Liverpool is slated for huge growth and infrastructure. Red Bull couldn't build a private stadium on a Public Reserve so Woodward Park is out. The only location I can think of for a private stadium is the Hurlstone Agricultural College farm at Glenfield. The college is being moved to Richmond and the Government intends to use the land for selected community purposes and housing. Red Bull could buy a portion of the land which is a few hundred metres of Glenfield Station. Its a great location transport wise. Direct line to the east, Sydney Airport and the city. Direct line north to Liverpool, Parramatta and the city. Direct line south to Campbelltown. Direct line west to Leppington which is to be extended to the new airport and Camden in the future. Within 5 minutes of the freeways/motorways north, south and east. Not good for restaurants, pubs etc. That sounds like a great spot. With the area growing pubs and restaurants would follow you would think.
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+xI take it foz has changed his mind on overseas ownership and is now biting the pillow. :D
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+x+xJust out of genuine curiosity.. what would St.George areas identity be? is it the same as Sutherland? My own personal thinking is if I was to design a kit/logo for a new South Sydney club it would be somewhat in the form of beach/water or ships(referencing Captain Cook/Endeavour) but to be honest other than St.George Cross or a Dragon I cant think of much else for St.George, is there something that can be intertwined? would a ship cover St.George aswell? I would do something like this with a green and yellow kit 
its easy for kids to draw. Cruzeiro already use just the southern cross  This is marketing genius. It embodies FFAs mission statement of alienating eurosnobs and embracing Australian AFL and rugby fans who might be getting curious about the round ball. Said fans can relate to the general patriotism of the club. Like a wallabies or a socceroos , but in the hal. And true, super easy to draw. Would make a great tatt too.
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Australis FC is a worse name than Brisbane Roar or Real Salt Lake.
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And you HAVE sold out SC Football. This will guarantee we will never see the Wolves back in the top flight.
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+xAustralis FC is a worse name than Brisbane Roar or Real Salt Lake. No way. Its up there with Geelong Patriots. H8rs gon h8.
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+xAnd you HAVE sold out SC Football. This will guarantee we will never see the Wolves back in the top flight. This.
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get some more blue strips in, only six A-League teams already have blue in their kit
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+xget some more blue strips in, only six A-League teams already have blue in their kit So? Our flag is blue! Un-Australis!
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+x+xJust out of genuine curiosity.. what would St.George areas identity be? is it the same as Sutherland? My own personal thinking is if I was to design a kit/logo for a new South Sydney club it would be somewhat in the form of beach/water or ships(referencing Captain Cook/Endeavour) but to be honest other than St.George Cross or a Dragon I cant think of much else for St.George, is there something that can be intertwined? would a ship cover St.George aswell? I would do something like this with a green and yellow kit 
its easy for kids to draw. Cruzeiro already use just the southern cross  Here you go mate.. image postHome Kit screen shot on pcAway Kit upload an image
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that looks mint
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWollongong wolves got crowds of 5,000 in the NSL reckon they struggled to support there own team. Would go down the Southern Sydney route but pick one stadium to play in. The A-League is a completely different animal. Football is bigger than ever before in this country. We will be absolutely fine down here. The only issue is a lot of people have become sick of waiting for a team and they've gone to support Sydney/WSW.. and the longer it takes I fear more and more will head that way So people dowm there support syd fc or wsw but wouldnt support a club that shares their location? Why would anyone down there follow wsw or syd fc? Afterall we are being told c9nstantly that wollongong ppl would only ever follow a stand alone bid. Can we also please stop using the nrl comparison as those were a case of combining existing clubs, whereas this would be an entirely new club made from scratch, a bit lile wsw. Same arguments were made with them too, with ppl saying no suppprters outside of parra would bother as they would be c9nsidered a parra team. Its different than the nrl. Im sure all the old school wolves supporters will be against it, but im sure this new club will pick up plenty of new fans if they do their c9mmunity engagement properly. The only thing that is truly c9ncerning about this bid is playing out of 3 stadiums (possibly) that is a shit idea. Choose a location and be done with it. Before they eventually build their own. People down here want to be apart of the A-league because they love the sport. I am one of them. People are becoming impatient and I know a lot of people who go to games in Sydney, especially the derby or other big games. Of course the more they go, the more it creates an affiliation with the team and give it enough time they will begin to support one of them. Its just natural. People here don't WANT to support a Sydney side, but they are becoming impatient waiting for a Wollongong side that they feel they HAVE to support a Sydney side because they want to get involved with the A-League and at the moment they can't do that in Wollongong. Personally, I am waiting for a team down here and I've been confident ever since the league began that one day eventually we will get our own team. Right now though, all this talk of a combined Sydney/Wollongong team does not bode well with me and others. We want our own team. We don't consider ourselves from Sydney. I didn't use the St George Illawarra Dragons example but that was a completely different situation.. both clubs needed each other at the time. And using one home ground with 3 different regions is probably the dumbest thing I've heard so far. Its one thing expecting people from Wollongong to support a combined Sydney side but its another to expect us to travel up to Cronulla or Kogarah every second week to watch us play. How would that possibly work? Do you really think that will help build a following from Wollongong, assuming our home ground is in either of the other two regions? Thanks champ tell me which football club in the world uses 3 different home grounds successfully? 3 stadiums is the dumbest thing ive heard and the fact u would back that makes me question ur whole belief on this topic. My point is.that if willongong are never getting a team, dont u think people would be more prepared to travel half the distance to watch a.team that at least has some affiliation with them than a wsw or syd fc? Of course they will. Especially when the club plays 2 home games agaisnt both syd fc ansmd wsw. Fans will flock there from wollongong. See people here say that people in the sth dont relate to ppl from the shire, well.i have some news for them, people from manly dont really relate to ppl that come from sothern parts of sydney or the west, yet sydney fc has fans from both those areas, and we still manage to avg the second highest attendances year in year out. A team purely from wollongong will get u 8-9k hardcore fans with very little room to grow. It will be similar version of newcastle jets which to be blatently honest doesnt excite me at all, and nor does it for most aleague gans when they watch newcastle on tv. They would become a niche club run on a budget alla ccm and newy. If i had to choose between a mega club with huge backing and broader representation alla fc and wsw, or a niche club like the gong alla ccm or newy, i know which one id rather watch play. I never, ever said I backed the 3 stadium idea. Bro, I don't even back the combined team. I back a single Wollongong bid which is 1 stadium. You have missed my whole point and now I'm questioning your understanding of my belief on this topic. Anyway, there is no doubt the combined team would have support. But most wouldn't be behind it like we would be behind a Wollongong side on its own. A combined side does not feel like "my" team... I dont consder myself a "Sydneysider" and Wollongong and Southern Sydney are completely different areas. And your argument about Manly people is exactly my point. They don't "relate" but only support Sydney FC because its the only team to follow. If there was a North Sydney side do you honestly think they would support Sydney FC? First of all im well aware that you are for a wollongong only bid. That much was made very clear. I was only replying in relation to the option of 3 areas playing in 1 stadium compared to 3, and how you mentioned that 1 stadium would be dumb option... There was no option for wollongong only. Secondly, if the A-league only has room for 2 clubs they need to take the absolute best option available that will likely grow out into bigger clubs that represent a bigger area. Hence why the combo of 3 different associations will work. Sure it wont for a few Wolves Die hards, but it will for all the others. Just like it does for people in Manly following Syd FC. It's not as if those people have decided not to follow A-league because Manly United aren't in the comp. So by saying "They don't "relate" but only support Sydney FC because its the only team to follow. If there was a North Sydney side do you honestly think they would support Sydney FC?" that answers my point very clearly. Yes people from Manly support a team that represents a larger area, and thus Sydney fc can rely on support from a wide ranging net, which results in being the second most attended team in the comp (historically). So taking that theory it can replicate very well for the Southern Sydney bid. Also having listened to both Craig Foster and Les Murray speak on the Wolrd Game podcast yesterday, im convinced they know what they are doing. Foster wouldn't do it if he didn't think they could get the grassroots support. They will likely be a major success, even if some people from the gong will not necessarily follow them, others from the area will.
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+xget some more blue strips in, only six A-League teams already have blue in their kit P&R might manage that too
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+x+x+x+x+xCampbelltown IMO is the next logical place to put the next Sydney team... massive growth area and the Wests Tigers play only 4 games a year .. a nice stadium next to a railway station and close to major roads... The Southern bid will effect SFC and to deny this by the bid folk is well I think outright lying ... the south western corridor is set for massive population numbers as is just as close to the gong as in fact according to google maps ... the gong to Cronulla is 1 hr 1 mim .. the gong to Campbelltown is 47 mins... For me the answer is obvious where the next Sydney team should go. people arguing that southern sydney doesnt have an identity, st george, shire and wollongong are eternal rivals and will never unite, yet they argue that south-west sydney has an identity and that the people of campbelltown, picton and oran park will unite. South west Sydney has been a separate region of Sydney with Liverpool being the gateway to it since the early days of the colony. Not sure what your point is. and in that exact same essence the airport area, st george and the shire are the gateway to the south, since in the early days of colonial arrival to botany bay. yet apparently there is no southern sydney identity. Just out of genuine curiosity.. what would St.George areas identity be? is it the same as Sutherland? My own personal thinking is if I was to design a kit/logo for a new South Sydney club it would be somewhat in the form of beach/water or ships(referencing Captain Cook/Endeavour) but to be honest other than St.George Cross or a Dragon I cant think of much else for St.George, is there something that can be intertwined? would a ship cover St.George aswell? Captain Cook has history in all three areas, before landing at Kurnell in Stingray (Botany) Bay he tried to land at Bulli. Also George Bass was one of the first to explore all three areas by boat on the Tom Thumb (Reliance) which also lead to settlement of both Bankstown from his exploration up the Georges River. All three areas were occupied by the Tharawal people.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xCampbelltown IMO is the next logical place to put the next Sydney team... massive growth area and the Wests Tigers play only 4 games a year .. a nice stadium next to a railway station and close to major roads... The Southern bid will effect SFC and to deny this by the bid folk is well I think outright lying ... the south western corridor is set for massive population numbers as is just as close to the gong as in fact according to google maps ... the gong to Cronulla is 1 hr 1 mim .. the gong to Campbelltown is 47 mins... For me the answer is obvious where the next Sydney team should go. people arguing that southern sydney doesnt have an identity, st george, shire and wollongong are eternal rivals and will never unite, yet they argue that south-west sydney has an identity and that the people of campbelltown, picton and oran park will unite. South west Sydney has been a separate region of Sydney with Liverpool being the gateway to it since the early days of the colony. Not sure what your point is. and in that exact same essence the airport area, st george and the shire are the gateway to the south, since in the early days of colonial arrival to botany bay. yet apparently there is no southern sydney identity. Just out of genuine curiosity.. what would St.George areas identity be? is it the same as Sutherland? My own personal thinking is if I was to design a kit/logo for a new South Sydney club it would be somewhat in the form of beach/water or ships(referencing Captain Cook/Endeavour) but to be honest other than St.George Cross or a Dragon I cant think of much else for St.George, is there something that can be intertwined? would a ship cover St.George aswell? Captain Cook has history in all three areas, before landing at Kurnell in Stingray (Botany) Bay he tried to land at Bulli. Also George Bass was one of the first to explore all three areas by boat on the Tom Thumb (Reliance) which also lead to settlement of both Bankstown from his exploration up the Georges River. All three areas were occupied by the Tharawal people. South Sydney Invaders
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xCampbelltown IMO is the next logical place to put the next Sydney team... massive growth area and the Wests Tigers play only 4 games a year .. a nice stadium next to a railway station and close to major roads... The Southern bid will effect SFC and to deny this by the bid folk is well I think outright lying ... the south western corridor is set for massive population numbers as is just as close to the gong as in fact according to google maps ... the gong to Cronulla is 1 hr 1 mim .. the gong to Campbelltown is 47 mins... For me the answer is obvious where the next Sydney team should go. people arguing that southern sydney doesnt have an identity, st george, shire and wollongong are eternal rivals and will never unite, yet they argue that south-west sydney has an identity and that the people of campbelltown, picton and oran park will unite. South west Sydney has been a separate region of Sydney with Liverpool being the gateway to it since the early days of the colony. Not sure what your point is. and in that exact same essence the airport area, st george and the shire are the gateway to the south, since in the early days of colonial arrival to botany bay. yet apparently there is no southern sydney identity. Just out of genuine curiosity.. what would St.George areas identity be? is it the same as Sutherland? My own personal thinking is if I was to design a kit/logo for a new South Sydney club it would be somewhat in the form of beach/water or ships(referencing Captain Cook/Endeavour) but to be honest other than St.George Cross or a Dragon I cant think of much else for St.George, is there something that can be intertwined? would a ship cover St.George aswell? Captain Cook has history in all three areas, before landing at Kurnell in Stingray (Botany) Bay he tried to land at Bulli. Also George Bass was one of the first to explore all three areas by boat on the Tom Thumb (Reliance) which also lead to settlement of both Bankstown from his exploration up the Georges River. All three areas were occupied by the Tharawal people. South Sydney Invaders South Sydney Subjection
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@big Looks good. Not totally in love with the away kit but that is my personal preference. I wouldn't want a Socceroos replica either which you have stayed away from. White is an easy option but also you could have the same kit as the home kit just with a lighter green (with the same yellow/good). Perhaps something like the light green on this kit
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+x+xAnd you HAVE sold out SC Football. This will guarantee we will never see the Wolves back in the top flight. This.
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Great prospect this new franchise. They're looking at the big picture, geographically in an uncaptured area and capacity to grow the game to mainstream. Terrific. Quite the opposite of say, SM Hellas.
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I enjoyed this opinion on the bid
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+xI enjoyed this opinion on the bid  The all important butthurt metric.
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Penetration by this team will cause butthurt. That's what we want, resistance. You don't want someone coming in your area and not resist, otherwise you won't get the same feeling when they enter.
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+x@big Looks good. Not totally in love with the away kit but that is my personal preference. I wouldn't want a Socceroos replica either which you have stayed away from. White is an easy option but also you could have the same kit as the home kit just with a lighter green (with the same yellow/good). Perhaps something like the light green on this kit  Definitely tried to avoid the NT kit. Light green could work with the dark green trim aswell.
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Yeah. Personally I would keep your home and use light green and perhaps light yellow too. But keep the gold for the home. Also something like these socks (and colours) for the away kit  They would all probably look good in any combination though.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWollongong wolves got crowds of 5,000 in the NSL reckon they struggled to support there own team. Would go down the Southern Sydney route but pick one stadium to play in. The A-League is a completely different animal. Football is bigger than ever before in this country. We will be absolutely fine down here. The only issue is a lot of people have become sick of waiting for a team and they've gone to support Sydney/WSW.. and the longer it takes I fear more and more will head that way So people dowm there support syd fc or wsw but wouldnt support a club that shares their location? Why would anyone down there follow wsw or syd fc? Afterall we are being told c9nstantly that wollongong ppl would only ever follow a stand alone bid. Can we also please stop using the nrl comparison as those were a case of combining existing clubs, whereas this would be an entirely new club made from scratch, a bit lile wsw. Same arguments were made with them too, with ppl saying no suppprters outside of parra would bother as they would be c9nsidered a parra team. Its different than the nrl. Im sure all the old school wolves supporters will be against it, but im sure this new club will pick up plenty of new fans if they do their c9mmunity engagement properly. The only thing that is truly c9ncerning about this bid is playing out of 3 stadiums (possibly) that is a shit idea. Choose a location and be done with it. Before they eventually build their own. People down here want to be apart of the A-league because they love the sport. I am one of them. People are becoming impatient and I know a lot of people who go to games in Sydney, especially the derby or other big games. Of course the more they go, the more it creates an affiliation with the team and give it enough time they will begin to support one of them. Its just natural. People here don't WANT to support a Sydney side, but they are becoming impatient waiting for a Wollongong side that they feel they HAVE to support a Sydney side because they want to get involved with the A-League and at the moment they can't do that in Wollongong. Personally, I am waiting for a team down here and I've been confident ever since the league began that one day eventually we will get our own team. Right now though, all this talk of a combined Sydney/Wollongong team does not bode well with me and others. We want our own team. We don't consider ourselves from Sydney. I didn't use the St George Illawarra Dragons example but that was a completely different situation.. both clubs needed each other at the time. And using one home ground with 3 different regions is probably the dumbest thing I've heard so far. Its one thing expecting people from Wollongong to support a combined Sydney side but its another to expect us to travel up to Cronulla or Kogarah every second week to watch us play. How would that possibly work? Do you really think that will help build a following from Wollongong, assuming our home ground is in either of the other two regions? Thanks champ tell me which football club in the world uses 3 different home grounds successfully? 3 stadiums is the dumbest thing ive heard and the fact u would back that makes me question ur whole belief on this topic. My point is.that if willongong are never getting a team, dont u think people would be more prepared to travel half the distance to watch a.team that at least has some affiliation with them than a wsw or syd fc? Of course they will. Especially when the club plays 2 home games agaisnt both syd fc ansmd wsw. Fans will flock there from wollongong. See people here say that people in the sth dont relate to ppl from the shire, well.i have some news for them, people from manly dont really relate to ppl that come from sothern parts of sydney or the west, yet sydney fc has fans from both those areas, and we still manage to avg the second highest attendances year in year out. A team purely from wollongong will get u 8-9k hardcore fans with very little room to grow. It will be similar version of newcastle jets which to be blatently honest doesnt excite me at all, and nor does it for most aleague gans when they watch newcastle on tv. They would become a niche club run on a budget alla ccm and newy. If i had to choose between a mega club with huge backing and broader representation alla fc and wsw, or a niche club like the gong alla ccm or newy, i know which one id rather watch play. I never, ever said I backed the 3 stadium idea. Bro, I don't even back the combined team. I back a single Wollongong bid which is 1 stadium. You have missed my whole point and now I'm questioning your understanding of my belief on this topic. Anyway, there is no doubt the combined team would have support. But most wouldn't be behind it like we would be behind a Wollongong side on its own. A combined side does not feel like "my" team... I dont consder myself a "Sydneysider" and Wollongong and Southern Sydney are completely different areas. And your argument about Manly people is exactly my point. They don't "relate" but only support Sydney FC because its the only team to follow. If there was a North Sydney side do you honestly think they would support Sydney FC? First of all im well aware that you are for a wollongong only bid. That much was made very clear. I was only replying in relation to the option of 3 areas playing in 1 stadium compared to 3, and how you mentioned that 1 stadium would be dumb option... There was no option for wollongong only. Secondly, if the A-league only has room for 2 clubs they need to take the absolute best option available that will likely grow out into bigger clubs that represent a bigger area. Hence why the combo of 3 different associations will work. Sure it wont for a few Wolves Die hards, but it will for all the others. Just like it does for people in Manly following Syd FC. It's not as if those people have decided not to follow A-league because Manly United aren't in the comp. So by saying "They don't "relate" but only support Sydney FC because its the only team to follow. If there was a North Sydney side do you honestly think they would support Sydney FC?" that answers my point very clearly. Yes people from Manly support a team that represents a larger area, and thus Sydney fc can rely on support from a wide ranging net, which results in being the second most attended team in the comp (historically). So taking that theory it can replicate very well for the Southern Sydney bid. Also having listened to both Craig Foster and Les Murray speak on the Wolrd Game podcast yesterday, im convinced they know what they are doing. Foster wouldn't do it if he didn't think they could get the grassroots support. They will likely be a major success, even if some people from the gong will not necessarily follow them, others from the area will. Yeah but a person in Manly probably still identifies as being from "Sydney", whereas a person in Wollongong is much less likely to identify as being from "Southern Sydney"
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That's why "Australis" has got it covered. It means southern which all three areas can relate and doesn't alienate any fans by using "Sydney" in its name.
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