3 at the back was an abject failure. Cut up time and time again through wing play from the Iraq's.

This "Angeball" doesn't work - we simply aren't good enough to pass it through the midfield without making mistakes and coughing it up. Every time we do, we give the ball up and the Iraq's broke. If they were a bit more dangerous we'd be looking at a loss. Someone said it in the match thread - Ange's idealism (forcing us to play from the back) puts us in danger time and time again.

We haven't scored from open play (no set pieces) in 3 games. We looked second best in Thailand, and we looked second best here. This isn't good enough from the best in the region.

We continue to select players who don't play (Kruse, Smith), while players who are in good form (Troisi, Behich, Goodwin) hardly get a run.

Ange out.

haha. Ange responsible for every skewed pass and cheap turnover... or for missing point blank. Goodluck replacing him. FFA broke remember.

honestly I think it is too late for a change now.  Ange is going to have to deliver or fail in this world cup qualification and then, if he fails, the knives will be out.

deary me talk about going over the top here....

The thing with playing 3-4-3 is you need highly technical players that won't give up the ball in the wrong areas. We don't have that. Add on top of that the difficulty of holding possession on that pitch and it's a recipe for disaster. Luckily enough we scraped a draw but it could very well have been.

Yeh lets sack the coach that still has us undefeated with 3 home games to come. 

They played badly but so has every Aus team in Asia. I still think they will win all there home games and get through.

Sack Ange for having one of the worst Socceroo sides to hit the park since the late 70's.

He just needs to realise we aren't that good, and he should use appropriate tactics to suit that fact. Play four-four-fooking-two next time Ange, or sit back and hang onto a lead for once.

I'd argue you need even more highly technical (and athletic) footballers to play 4-3-3 the way Ange wants them to play it.

Imo, they abused this formation by having the wingbacks act more like wingers. They should have acted like the aggressive fullbacks in Ange's 4-3-3.

Either we need a (basically) flat back four or we need three central defenders with the wingbacks acting dropping back a long way. That's the only way they'll be competent enough to handle the space.

If Ange went with a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 diamond we would have probably got the same result, complaints would be flying in complaining that Ange didn't change nothing and stuck to the same old plan.

I think it takes some real balls to play 3 at the back when you don't really have the quality to do it....were not chelsea... in saying that. Kruse last night was very very poor when he did track back he really didn't do enough and their left sided attack was causing us really problems. 

I think the formation can definately work, it has to be Smith and Leckie as the wide players, then fit Rogic in there somewhere and replace Wright for Sains... also Bailey I thought was pretty decent defensively you could see all game that playing out from the back he was seriously struggling. 

I really lost a lot of confidence in him with his subs - Smith who hasn't played in ages and Cahill who slows up things in the last third so much.

A team with a World Cup quality front line would've scored 3-4 against us.

Ange won't be sacked but it is time to really start putting the blowtorch on him. you can argue about the cattle til the cows come home, but you still have to question why he continues to change the formation. he needs to choose one and stick with it (or choose one and keep a second up his sleeve as a backup plan).

..and if it was world cup quality I would think he'd play a back four.

My patience is growing thin with Ange.

Ange-ball was never going to work on that cow paddock.  Possession football was not going to work.

Iraq were pressing all game knowing that balls would bobble and we would give up possession.

Just praying that we play better at home and smash the other teams, get our mojo back and nick a point in Japan.  That should be enough for 2nd.

If we drop any points at home, we can kiss direct qualification good-bye.

The big problem for Ange and Australia,is that possession based attacking football is old news.The most successful teams aren't playing that way.
Strong defence and counterattack os the winning way at the moment.
In the HAL teams like Brisbane,WSW and AU are struggling and all have similar weaknesses to the Socceroos.The all look like scoring ,but rarely do and when they score their weak defences always crumble.

The Socceroos would of been better served playing a 442 diamond formation. Kruse Leckie out wide , jedinak holding, mooy CAM and have juric and Cahill up fronT. We would of been parked in there half all game, instead we lost possession out wide and were brunt on the counter.

We need to get some confidence back, we need that winning feeling but not grind out a win but dominate all game. The game against the UAE we need to win by atleast a couple goals.

This! Ange probably has one of the worst gen of Socceroos in a very long time and he can do so much.

Hopefully we can still qualify for the World Cup with the home games coming up.

Yup, he only has the same resources he had to pick from when we won the Asian cup

Played at home in front of home crowds.

We haven't been beaten away from home yet and have won all our games at home.

Why do you have an incessant need to turn every thread into a FFA bashing, it get's a bit boring mate.

He just pointed out a cost factor in  a "Sack Ange" discussion

But now you've bought up the subject, FFA are all    - oops, I just ate my own poop...s

Russia's gonna be fun

Most of you won't admit it, but we all know we'd be killing it in Asia with Arnie at the helm.

He does have a limited group of players to select from. Few quality players there. But he flat-out refuses th change his tactics even when the opposition, conditions or pitch would suggest that another approach may be more beneficial. 

How many would have been disappointed if we started playing a bit more long ball on that paddock of a pitch, cut down the errors in midifeld, and subsequently won the game? Theses are WCQ's! Now is not the time to be pedantic about performance. 

RESULTS ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER IN THE LAST 4 GAMES. 

We'd certainly be better off playing under a manager that didn't put his philosophy above results. 

Except ange hasnt lost..draws away from home are still results.

Are you happy with the results against Thailand and Iraq away?

Moopy all sad about fact-y thing-ies. Poor lil moopy.

Some people forget FFA "took the credit" for hiring ange (for peanuts) after we'd fallen over with holger, and really had no better option. Hiddink was laughably bandied. Lol. They conveniently twisted the narrative into "we are going native with a coach- aus coaches are good enough" but we all know the truth is they didnt have the money then for a world class intl coach, and they certainly dont now. Its called reality, sorry if reality bores you, Moops i ate my i ate my own poops. Watch them spin the same narrative, with arnie or poppa, when ange leaves or becomes the fall guy (for a country with subpar player development). 

(And yes the current administration (who incidentally publicly embarrased/strong-armed ange into submission/retraction over a constructive criticism he'd made in the press) are illegitimate. You might be quite happy to turn a blind eye to gross injustice and corruption, but ill keep saying it until im blue in the face).