Gallop is a fucking spud

one would hope they sell it for 3 years because it is the common sense approach. but we are talking about the FFA here. 

Have they mentioned in any article/s if the finals will be live on FTA?

I read somewhere that they are all on SBS 1 hour delay

Ok. But for the new deal?

"The proposed free-to-air deal is said to be worth about $2 million to the FFA, but will also require an additional $2 million to be paid by the free-to-air rights holder to Fox Sports for production."

I know this is speculation but what does this translate to?

To produce 27 + 5 games does it cost FOXTEL $4 million and they want half? $2 million and they want to cover the cost? Or less and the want to make money on it?

A terrible outcome, but we gotta move on.
Fox also wants to make some money back on their investment, so I wouldn't be surprised if they negotiate directly with the commercial FTA channels and get a deal done. This latest debacle has confirmed to me what I already knew, that the FFA couldn't run a chook raffle!

On the positive side if there is any, is the rights do go to the ABC, then the game won't make much money out of it, but hopefully they put it on their main channel and not a secondary one. The ABC (the main channel) actually has a good viewership, which is double of what SBS get, and 5 or 6 percentage points off the regular Channel 10 viewing numbers, which is pretty encouraging.
At least they have a good reach, plus a national radio service. Let's just see how this whole thing plays out. I'm not holding my breath.

Telstra will pick it up on there streaming service bigger and better reach than a 2nd channel commercial network. Combined with the ABC I don't think that is too bad especially if it's on there primary channel. I still think a lot is going on that we know diddly about. Just wait and see.

I would have liked the A-league to be on a main channel but it doesn't look like it will happen. Our game lends itself to be on pay tv or a streaming platform. Plus the demographic that we are aiming for doesn't really watch much FTA anyway. If anything we should be shifting more of our focus to online streaming platforms like Optus, Telstra, Yahoo, Youtube, Amazon etc etc. 

If the main channels are not going to pay for the rights then there is NO POINT in just giving it away either. Forget this talk about letting them have it on the cheap. If we start giving it away it means we also place no value on the A-league, so with that being said. If they don't want it, they don't want it. 

Agree, But this is the FFA so one can only wish.........

To RBBs point - if the fights for Saturday night games are $2m then the full season streaming rights are valued at around $9m and only some serious competition will bring that up. Again, it's staggering incompetence by the ffa to cut a deal with Foxtel that in effect sets the value of the product across multiple platforms.

happy for abc to have it for 6 years

I wonder if the clubs negotiated with FOXTEL and FTA if they could have managed to get all Perth games on WA FTA, all AU on SA FTA, all MV & MC on Vic FTA etc, all finals games live FTA and all games on FOXTEL for a total of $29 million plus $10 million admin, refs, travel ?

the abc does decent sports coverage as well and has news 24 which will pick up more AL news than it already does.  imo it has the most extensive daily football news from australia and the world outside of the sbs.

could be worse.  still dont understand how the channel effects it other than the run in.  it's not like the old days when you couldnt even pick up sbs reception.  i dont even find anything on 7, 9 or 10 remotely interesting to watch anyway.  i suppose families, tradies, bogans and old people watch those channels. new markets?

One thing I would like to see and hope would happen (if legal - not sure why it wouldn't be but anyway) if ABC get the rights is cross promotion onto their ABC Kids and ABC ME(the channel for the older kids). 

Just basics like advertisement for the game to be shown and even players onto some of the programs and segments. Get the brands out there.

Forgive me if I am wrong as I don't have stats - but presuming the 5 - 13 age bracket is our largest player base and one of our key target audiences it would be silly not to take advantage of putting the sport and league in kids faces that so many already play.

Could set it up like Rage does and instead of musicians/bands have HAL players pop up in their club shirts with a pre recorded introduction to the show thats on next. 

"Hey kids its Bruno Fornaroli from Melbourne City FC. Up next is Play School... Now get fucked!"

That takes me back a few years.

All hail the octopus

The 'quality' of the product is virtually unimportant. It's the popularity of the product that is important. If you look at the big bash cricket, from a quality perspective it's inferior to the Indian Premier League or the defunct Champions League Twenty/20, which both pay higher salaries and attract more higher rated players and teams. If you look at the AFL the spectator product is nowhere near as attractive as it was 20 years ago (from what I hear in the media, and my own perspective from watching a few matches in the last few years and having watched regularly 20-30 years ago). Yet both those sports are rating their socks off. 

Better players and a higher standard of match play doesn't necessarily equal higher ratings. It's the popularity of the sport that drives ratings. Higher ratings are driven mostly by hype, marketing, cross promotion etc. which leads to people starting to follow a team and then those team allegiances also increase ratings.

I agree that putting on the Saturday night derby games and showing off the crowd atmosphere will increase interest in the league overall and this must be done in the FTA deal.

How many people in Perth care about SFC v MV?

Local teams should be the aim for FTA imo.

lol good luck with that. Its all about our current 10 teams. There isn't a lot of content is there?  A-league only has 5 fixtures a week on Fridays Saturdays and Sundays.

AFL Has 18 teams and there are games on Thursday nights, Friday nights, Saturday arvo, Saturday night and sunday arvo. 18 teams equals 9 games a week. that's a lot of content for a weekend.

NRL has 16 teams and Games in Thursday, Friday, Saturday and sunday. They had Monday night games too. 

Now imagine if the A-league expanded from 10 teams to 14 teams. that means a 7 fixtures a weekend and 26 rounds. That means each team has 13 home games and 13 away games. That is a lot of content and value. 7 foxtel games live and 2 possibly 3 FTA games being sold cheaply.  

If you were FFA why would you increase the league to 14?
I want 14 as 26 games plus finals would work , however if you have 12 teams you can have 33 rounds of 6 matches (198 games), 14 teams is 26 rounds of 7 matches (182 games). Excluding finals.

So 14 teams costs you an extra 20% or in FFA terms ca $5.8 million per year and you get less content. 

FFA would much rather have 3 derbies, bluies, state of origin etc, each season than 2. 

Facebook will smash views

Depends which teams are brought in..... But Lets say if the league stays at 10 teams.... for the 27 rounds, what would be a good idea to maximize the value of a Saturday night slot? Thinking of the rivalries/ matches that draw ratings......

 -Sydney Derby
-Melbourne Derby
- Sydney FC vs Melbourne Victory
- Victory vs Adelaide
-Victory vs Western Sydney
-Brisbane Roar vs Sydney FC

I might be missing one or 2 big drawing games.... Now imagine if all those games were shown 3 times each.... that's 18 of the 27 spots filled for Saturday night. Each game would bring in 100,000 foxtel viewers easily. Imagine if it was on ABC, Would ABC get 200-300,000 viewers watching a big blue derby live on Saturday night?. I didn't bring up the F3 derby or the Perth vs Wellington derby because those don't draw ratings.

Another thing that needs to be Addressed is Finals. On SBS its on One hour delay. Imagine if it was on live.  I am living in Adelaide. The NRL grand final is always live on channel 9.

Call me old fashioned or a Eurosnob but I like the idea of supporting teams more than a league.

FFA will create a "showcase marquee" fixture fanbase. Not supporters of teams. An army oh Yoshis if you will. I bet he is on the SFC bandwagon right now.

Also, it's not fair to the likes of NJ CCM & PG. They will hardly feature in these fixtures meaning they don't get as much exposure meaning not as much sponsorship revenue.

The Anzac games between Wellington and whoever should be on FTA as its meaningful and has a purpose.

Legendary.

-PB

or channel zero

Looks like cricket might not have a FTA competitive bidding process
http://www.theage.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/channel-nine-urged-to-step-away-from-the-cricket-contract-by-analysts-20170425-gvruzl.html

Nine lose 40 million a year showing it and the bean counters are saying enough is enough.