I think this has to be post of the year?
Where's Notorganic to ask this guy if he's seen a film?
That's gotta be the most amazing meltdown I have ever seen

Goes without saying , He's ordained in the Catholic Church

Can't trot this Tim minchin classic out too often

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Edited by View from the fence: 29/7/2016 05:36:03 PM

Classic,

His Cardinal pell song is a classic.

Islam has pedophilia as part of the official doctrine, but if you said that every Imam was a pedo that only stopped raping kids to cut off their genitals the SJWs here would go into meltdown. Keep indulging in what you consider your socially acceptable bigotry.

Catholicophibia?

Yeh nice try. No. Never. Give up. Christians and Catholics are not discriminated against.

Even though Catholics and Muslims are pretty much fruit of the same tree

Pell seems incredibly arrogant to me & not coming back to answer to the commission just makes it worse.

Definitely not a fan of the Catholic church, but the timing of this allegation seems very suss. Likewise, although we might not feel that Pell has done enough, he definitely has been at the forefront of the Catholic church trying to institutes procedures to prevent these sorts of things happening again. So I'm pretty skeptical that there is anything at all to these allegations.

Terrorist tree ?

George Pell: police receive prosecution advice on further sex abuse claims

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/17/george-pell-police-receive-prosecution-advice-on-further-sex-abuse-claims?CMP=share_btn_tw


tick, tock, tick, tock

Pell is on the brink of kiddy fiddling charges

Being reported by SMH

Good luck getting him back in the country to stand trial.

-PB

To the sufferers of sexual & physical abuse by Christians, the symbolism of charging him is most important

To the sufferers of sexual & physical abuse, the symbolism of charging him is most important.



It's about no-one being above the law.

Apparantly he got tipped off about being charged and the heart condition conveniently stopped him returning

Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton earlier told reporters the charges involved multiple complainants.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-29/cardinal-george-pell-charged-sexual-assault-offences/8547668

This charade just got blown wide open.

Cardinal Pell is back and will be pleading innocent to all charges.

Now the ball is in the court of all the accusers and detractors to prove all the"Trial by Media" claims and hyperbole. 

Now let's be clear. He didn't have to come back at all and defend anything. But it seems his legacy is important to him and it seems he is of the firm belief that he has done NOTHING wrong.

So he has done what most thought he would never do because they presumed he was guilty. Well it doesn't work this way and some of you are going to learn a lot about our legal system because of this. 

He also has one of the most feared and brutal attorneys in Australia. Oh boy the fireworks are going to be spectacular. All funded by The Vatican no doubt at $10,000 per day! 

Yawn.

-PB

You'd imagine the police have some quite serious evidence against him. Not a charge I imagine that would be made with a light heart. The problem could be that the evidence may largely be witness based ... this is always problematic (and simply due to the number of complaints it may have forced the police's hand to bring forth a charge even if they didn't feel they had any concrete evidence).

What they have is some statements. But these people never testified at the Royal Commission. There is no hard evidence at all.

Apparently some of the statements directly accuse him of some Sexually Abusive acts. Which I find hard to believe. What I think has occurred is that some people have made some false accusations to muddy the Cardinal's name and also muddy the Catholic Church in the process, thinking that the matters will never go to trial because they believed that Cardinal Pell will never come to Australia. Well, he has come and he is lawyered up and ready to fight. And the public will get to fiund out the truth. 

But in any case, these matters will be dissected in Court. And anyone telling any porkies will be ripped to shreds. 

But as you yourself say, he has lawyers bought with vatican gold and we all know justice can be bought.
The truth here will never be clear regardless of which way any verdicts go.

I don't think so!

The legal system will look at the evidence and a jury will decide whether there is enough to convict cardinal Pell. 

Having a whiz bang lawyer will just help Cardinal Pell in defending himself better than let's say a novice lawyer could.

I don't know who is paying the legal bill. It could be the Vatican or it could be his thousands of supporters in Australia who see this entire fiasco as a witch hunt. Or it could be the Cardinal. Either way, it's not as if the detractors and their backers are poor. Get Up and the Unions have Billions at their disposal and the dismantling of Christianity seems to be a Socialist objective. If we were Muslims, the very same organisations would be crying foul.

But that is ok because this only makes Christianity more powerful among the hard core elements. It could be God sorting the Chaff from the Wheat. Christians are actually fed up being told to not send Christmas cards and such things only bring many closer to our church because they think society has gone bonkers - and it has.  We are going from strength to strength. And our brethren is becoming more polarised than ever before and even some are fundamentalists now. 

All this has been prophesized in the Apocalypse. And many see all of this as the warning signs or prelude. 

Wait, seriously?
Money doesn't buy justice?

No! I don't think so.  The courts and the jury will preside over the evidence. The bullshit ends here! 

If it did, you would win because you guys have the media on your side, violating the Cardinal's Human Rights and presumption of innocence with mass hysteria and fake news. Not to mention Get Up and the Unions.

But we are not in Venezuela or Colombia thanks heavens, and the Cardinal should get a fair hearing.

But as far as I am concerned, the media outlets in Australia need to front a Royal Commission about their disgusting behaviour. 

Fair enough.
I believe you are letting your feelings about this particular case guide your responses so I will leave it there.

It should actually concern you too this case.

The way the information about cardinal Pell was divulged with all the lies and false statements, you should be asking questions, and perhaps defend his Human Rights. This man has been vilified.  I am very happy he has decided to come to Australia. As to the rest of it, we will have to wait and see what evidence the accusers and detractors come up with. But at least he can now defend himself. 

It's not just the media... Tim Minchin wrote a stupid song about Pell which everyone lapped up.

And he hasn't even been charged with anything yet. Perhaps he is guilty, but we don't know yet. Possibly all he did was try and sweep under the carpet the misdeeds of a few priests. I just resent the mob mentality of attacking certain traditional religions- it's like we are back in the 16th century- let's burn someone at the stake!