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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. Yeah fuck democracy, let's listen to this bloke on the internet Fuck it all to hell!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. And so is your arrogance to be so dismissive of people who bother to put the effort into becoming better educated What is arrogant is your presumption of a higher intelligence over Trump supporters and that you even insinuated that the poorly educated (ie Trump supporters) should not have the democratic right to elect representatives to Government. Its actually shown in polling & research. Never said they don't have the right to vote, I was pointing out their lack of critical thinking, which is correlated to poorer education. 23 million Americans are about to be kicked of healthcare (if the bill passes the Senate). The people who need it most are those who predominantly voted Trump. Part of me says let them suffer for their ignorance & wilful simplism.
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+x+x I'm sure certain people will be jumping up and down about this one like they were about Coopers. Personally I think she's welcome to boycott, I personally have been choosing to support their company for the same reason. Marg is entitled to her religious beliefs without being sneered at. After all we are supposed to accept Islam, aren't we? It truly is amazing how people make up fictitious views.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive. Well considering dementia is an ageing thing, I would argue that old people are the ones who have stuff all understanding.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive. Well considering dementia is an ageing thing, I would argue that old people are the ones who have stuff all understanding. I'm really bored at work and you're not helping. How would someone with dementia vote? If they can't remember their own name, how can they be forced to select a member of parliament? (I am Googling this now)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive. Well considering dementia is an ageing thing, I would argue that old people are the ones who have stuff all understanding. I'm really bored at work and you're not helping. How would someone with dementia vote? If they can't remember their own name, how can they be forced to select a member of parliament? (I am Googling this now) And answered. If your relative has dementia you will need to complete a form to remove their name from the electoral roll. The medical certificate on the form must be completed and signed by a registered medical practitioner.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive. Well considering dementia is an ageing thing, I would argue that old people are the ones who have stuff all understanding. I'm really bored at work and you're not helping. How would someone with dementia vote? If they can't remember their own name, how can they be forced to select a member of parliament? (I am Googling this now) Dementia is often a gradual degradation of mental capacity, someone at that stage would not be able to vote (and is given dispensation) but there are plenty on the other end of the scale that do.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive. Well considering dementia is an ageing thing, I would argue that old people are the ones who have stuff all understanding. I'm really bored at work and you're not helping. How would someone with dementia vote? If they can't remember their own name, how can they be forced to select a member of parliament? (I am Googling this now) Dementia is often a gradual degradation of mental capacity, someone at that stage would not be able to vote (and is given dispensation) but there are plenty on the other end of the scale that do. This was an interesting question for me. I deal with a few clients who are suffering from dementia and I'm sure this sort of question would come up in the future.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Nuts to that. An 18 year old has stuff all understanding of how the world actually works. Precisely the reason why they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. The legal voting age should be increased to 25 and you should get 1 vote for every year you have been alive. Well considering dementia is an ageing thing, I would argue that old people are the ones who have stuff all understanding. I'm really bored at work and you're not helping. How would someone with dementia vote? If they can't remember their own name, how can they be forced to select a member of parliament? (I am Googling this now) Dementia is often a gradual degradation of mental capacity, someone at that stage would not be able to vote (and is given dispensation) but there are plenty on the other end of the scale that do. I responded to an absolute statement with an absolute statement
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) So how old are you "dial it in"? 12 or 13 maybe? From the stupidity of your remarks I would say that your vote wouldn't be worth much...
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+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. Are you the smug douchebag with the ponytail in the Havard bar scene in Good Will Hunting? Yes, university develops critical thinking skills, but it also can detach individuals from reality. Case in point university safe spaces: How are people that are so psychologically traumatised by day to day interactions operate in the real world outside university campuses? How will they hold down stressful jobs, handle asshole bosses? Are these the sort of people that we want deciding future socioeconomic policy?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) So how old are you "dial it in"? 12 or 13 maybe? From the stupidity of your remarks I would say that your vote wouldn't be worth much... I provide at least some form of an argument, yet you by contrast provide none. How old are you? From your grumblings I am guessing 96? 97?
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+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. Are you the smug douchebag with the ponytail in the Havard bar scene in Good Will Hunting? Well I'm definitely not the bloke on his front porch rocking backing & forth in his chair, deluding myself that I have been educated in the 'school of life', because I ran a business
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Whats the arguments for recognition as native australians as being the first people here in the constitution?
Seems pretty pointless to me, everyone already knows this?
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+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. Are you the smug douchebag with the ponytail in the Havard bar scene in Good Will Hunting? Yes, university develops critical thinking skills, but it also can detach individuals from reality. Case in point university safe spaces: How are people that are so psychologically traumatised by day to day interactions operate in the real world outside university campuses? How will they hold down stressful jobs, handle asshole bosses? Are these the sort of people that we want deciding future socioeconomic policy? Can confirm that most people on my campus are neo-marxixt, post-modernist ideologues stuck in a victim complex with little, if any, economic understanding and whom are obsessed with 'social justice' - whatever that means Also can confirm that my head is up my ass and I could be mistaken through stupidity, arrogance and questionable nutrition
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. Are you the smug douchebag with the ponytail in the Havard bar scene in Good Will Hunting? Yes, university develops critical thinking skills, but it also can detach individuals from reality. Case in point university safe spaces: How are people that are so psychologically traumatised by day to day interactions operate in the real world outside university campuses? How will they hold down stressful jobs, handle asshole bosses? Are these the sort of people that we want deciding future socioeconomic policy? Can confirm that most people on my campus are neo-marxixt, post-modernist ideologues stuck in a victim complex with little, if any, economic understanding and whom are obsessed with 'social justice' - whatever that means Also can confirm that my head is up my ass and I could be mistaken through stupidity, arrogance and questionable nutrition Having started my university education with an arts degree I experienced plenty of that sort of thing. My major was anthropology and honestly tutorials were an exercise in loud wankerism. My god. Im grateful I decided to complete the degree only because it gave me the opportunity to qualify for my current masters degree in urban planning: A course which has provided me with real world skills and career opportunities
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ASIO slaps down Hanson's claim of link between terrorism and refugees http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/05/26/asio-slaps-down-hansons-claim-link-between-terrorism-and-refugeesAustralia’s domestic spy agency has comprehensively denied there is a link between refugees coming to Australia and foiled terror attacks. The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) director-general Duncan Lewis appeared before a Senate estimates hearing in Canberra last night to take questions from politicians. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson asked if the threat of terrorism and radicalisation were being brought into the country by refugees. “I have absolutely no evidence to suggest there's a connection between refugees and terrorism,” Mr Lewis replied. Senator Hanson attempted to get ASIO to draw a link between Islam and the twelve thwarted terrorist attacks on Australian soil in the last few years, but Mr Lewis said the religion was not to blame. “Of the 12 ... thwarted attacks, one of those, indeed, involved a right-wing extremist, Mr Lewis said. “So the answer is they have not all been carried out by Muslims.” The spy chief declined to comment on potential radicalisation in Australian mosques for security reasons but said citizens weren’t targeted simply because of their faith. “We are only interested in people who are exhibiting or offering violence,” he said. “To the extent that there is violent extremism which is very often inspired by a warped version of Sunni Islam, that's when our interests are invoked.” Mr Lewis also told the estimates hearing that despite Islamic State’s losses in the Middle East, the “threat of a terrorist attack against Australians and Australian interests will continue.”
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+xASIO slaps down Hanson's claim of link between terrorism and refugees http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/05/26/asio-slaps-down-hansons-claim-link-between-terrorism-and-refugeesAustralia’s domestic spy agency has comprehensively denied there is a link between refugees coming to Australia and foiled terror attacks.The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) director-general Duncan Lewis appeared before a Senate estimates hearing in Canberra last night to take questions from politicians.One Nation leader Pauline Hanson asked if the threat of terrorism and radicalisation were being brought into the country by refugees.“I have absolutely no evidence to suggest there's a connection between refugees and terrorism,” Mr Lewis replied.Senator Hanson attempted to get ASIO to draw a link between Islam and the twelve thwarted terrorist attacks on Australian soil in the last few years, but Mr Lewis said the religion was not to blame.“Of the 12 ... thwarted attacks, one of those, indeed, involved a right-wing extremist, Mr Lewis said.“So the answer is they have not all been carried out by Muslims.”The spy chief declined to comment on potential radicalisation in Australian mosques for security reasons but said citizens weren’t targeted simply because of their faith.“We are only interested in people who are exhibiting or offering violence,” he said.“To the extent that there is violent extremism which is very often inspired by a warped version of Sunni Islam, that's when our interests are invoked.”Mr Lewis also told the estimates hearing that despite Islamic State’s losses in the Middle East, the “threat of a terrorist attack against Australians and Australian interests will continue.” 1 out of 12 involved right wing extremism so what about the other 11? Fear of being called a racist seems to be a motivating factor is not addressing some of the issues around these attacks the world across.
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+x+x+x+xQandA dishing up the goods again. I wonder how many of the Uni students asking questions about having to pay for things they want in life have $4 coffees every day and go on trips to Bali. No wonder some of them can't afford a bloody house. Stuff like last nights episode does nothing to draw away from a well established stereotype that people my age and younger are self entitled pricks who want free university, a house with no wage sacrifice, free medical care, a job with no qualifications as well as world class infrastructure and a stable economy with absolutely no sacrifice. The whole young people are spending $4 on coffees, $19 on smashed avocado's & multiple trips to Bali each year stereotype is the biggest load of shit going round. Generally being peddled by those who have had a pretty easy ride in creating their wealth whether that was from free university, a large inheritance from a family member, the ease they had in getting into the property market and now being able to negative gear etc. Seriously anyone spending $19 on smashed avocado's really doesn't care about buying their own home. The thing that shits me about this stereotype is that it seems to be the solution for these growing inequality problems, 'SAVE MORE MONEY' or 'Get A BETTER PAYING JOB'. Back in reality it's getting harder to find a full-time job, penalty rates are being cut, university degrees are becoming more expensive and you'll now have to pay back the money sooner. Meanwhile the snouts in the trough keep getting bigger via company tax cuts, savings from penalty rates, 'Interns', removal of the budget repair levy, nothing being done on negative gearing and that's just off the top of my head. I get that there is a lot of whinging at the moment but for young people unless you were born with a silver-spoon in your mouth what would possess you to vote for the current government? Those with "snouts in the trough" worked the factory lines mostly and made sacrifices. They worked hard. If anyone wants to work, they can find a job. They just need to lower their expectations a little in the short term. There are many manual labour jobs, taxi jobs, kitchen hand jobs available at any given time. these are the jobs no one wants to do, including many younger people who are unemployed. It's much better to work as a Kitchen Hand than be unemployed, and it will help them find a better job rather quickly because it shows initiative, great attitude and a willingness to get out there. And in time, they will be able to buy $19 smashed avocados on toast. So what if they worked on factory lines and made sacrifices, should I give a shit? I bust my ass working hard and making sacrifices each day and so do thousands of other young people, what do you want me to say? Oh poor Boomers I'm sorry that you had to work hard and make sacrifices like every other generation before and after you! Honestly when it comes to the notion of entitlement there's no other generation that has been more greedy or entitled than the Boomers. I beg to differ! In the old days, buying houses were also relatively out of reach for many workers, but with perseverance, most managed to do it. It will be the same with younger people. Wages today are also a lot more higher than what they were in the past.
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+xWell done Margaret Court.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I never said such a thing. In fact I can think of so many examples where people left school, learned a trade or started a business, and ended up being a lot more wealthy and prosperous than most university graduates. It's a lot more common than people let on. I'm all for people having a go. Many entrepreneurs didn't go to uni.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. And so is your arrogance to be so dismissive of people who bother to put the effort into becoming better educated What is arrogant is your presumption of a higher intelligence over Trump supporters and that you even insinuated that the poorly educated (ie Trump supporters) should not have the democratic right to elect representatives to Government. Its actually shown in polling & research. Never said they don't have the right to vote, I was pointing out their lack of critical thinking, which is correlated to poorer education. 23 million Americans are about to be kicked of healthcare (if the bill passes the Senate). The people who need it most are those who predominantly voted Trump. Part of me says let them suffer for their ignorance & wilful simplism. No! The only thing the polls show is that Trump attracted many of the "down and outs". He attracted millions of working class voters which would normally not vote Republican. Why? Because Trump was the anti establishment candidate is why. People got desperate and wanted to try something different rather than continually being sold out by the Washington Establishment. And yes, working class people do not have as high an education as white collar people. But that doesn't make them dumb or mean they don't deserve a vote because they voted for the other guy.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnd there seems to be a fixation on university. I often say, that if I was young again, I would do things differently. We under-estimate the power of TAFE. In my opinion, there are TAFE courses that are of much greater value than many University degrees. also more interesting. Things like Photography, or jewelry making. Very creative and often lucrative professions. And you can set up your own little business and work for yourself. You know how powerful that is? University is underestimated. Too many poorly educated people vote, who have failed to develop critical thinking skills. So let's get this straight! the poorly educated shouldn't be allowed to vote right? Wowee! I guess that is the leftist idea of democracy and equality for all. it should only exist if you have a degree, and you should only have a vote if you're smart enough to agree with their worldview, and that those who don't must be the uneducated deplorables. Amazing... And am I missing something? Critical thinking is developed through the university of life, not through university. As per the US elections & what is happening with health care, the poorly educated are 'learning' the consequence of having a lack or application of critical thinking. As for 'University of Life' there is no such thing. Its just a cliche catch cry. I always wonder if the railing against the educated is because it exposes the poor education in the complainer - a cognitive dissonance thing. That is extremely arrogant of you. If I was in the USA and allowed to vote, I would have voted for trump and not Hillary. But I guess, this is one of the reasons why Hillary lost and Trump won. The Democrats were beyond arrogance, and their candidate was utter rubbish, so trump cruised home. If people who go through university are so much smarter than those who haven't, how come half of the graduates can't find work? I say you can vote if you have a job. If all you can do is study, then you don't get to have a say on how the rest of us live our lives. I prefer the idea that the older you are, the less valuable is your vote, since you cop less of its consequences. So for example, an 18 year old's vote should be 3 times that of, say, an 85 year old. This makes sense since most old people don't give a shit for global warming (evidenced by the fact that most old people vote Liberal/National/One Nation) Mmmmm! Well I reckon Green Voters should all be denied a vote on account of being all pretty stupid!
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And as for voter rights. I don't advocate for groups of people having more democratic rights over other groups of people due to their age, religiosity, intellect, race or gender.
But, something has to be said about the wisdom of older people. They have life experienced and gone through all the hard knocks.
In my culture, older people are RESPECTED. They are our ELDERS and BEDROCKS. We look after them in their old age generally speaking and we revere them as our life compass and coaches in life.
It's about respect more than anything. And, they deserve their vote.
That is what democracy is all about.
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Interesting Four Corners going on. Chinese money influencing our politics, no shock there. -PB
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Good to see how China is influencing our politics lol. -PB
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+x+xWell done Margaret Court. She's entitled to her opinion but by public stating her beliefs people are equally entitled to attack her beliefs.
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