A-League club owners set to reject FFA funding model


A-League club owners set to reject FFA funding model

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Reading those tweets provides great insight on not only a prospective licensee's views of P&R, but most probably on the current ten licensees.

They have collectively lost over $200 million over the past 12 years.

Do not expect them to do anything which impinges on them making up even a tiny bit of that shortfall.

That means, without doubt, do not expect them to willingly share revenues with tinpot clubs.
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Waz - 30 Jun 2017 9:50 AM
@ AJF That's a flippant statement that misses a point that needs addressing. But every HAL team has its own broadcast ready stadium, it's not about owning it it's about having access to one, and one quickly (within 3-6 months) So let's say Strikers get promoted where will they play? Not Suncorp because there is no room, so where? And what if the side promoted is from Ipswich or Toowoomba is promoted where would they play? Brisbane? What if 4 Victorian sides get promoted - are they all going to try and play out of AAMI park. That would be fucking madness. Imagine a side from Ballarat playing there lol It's a valid question and the HAL teams are not relevant to the discussion - they were all selected/created based on where the stadiums were but p/r doesn't work that way - and the NPL sides have the basic infrastructure they just need a plan and funding to develop that. There's a place called Dolphin park in Brisbane's north, it's a great little stadium built for a lower tier RL team - why can't every second division team have a stadium like that then this question goes away??Or we can just bitch about HAL sides?

Are you seriously saying Suncorp is fully utilized during the summer? Perhaps you should check Suncorps event calendar, they could easily host a second HAL team if a big Brisbane City wanted to play in a big stadium with lights full of empty seats .

Plus not sure what the facination is with stadiums. If Ballarat was to get in, they could use their existing facility as it is a great facility and appropriate for their area. Lights might need upgrading but big deal. If another Melbourne team made it, why couldn't they use Lakeside (the original home of Victory). There are any number of similar smaller stadiums in each stte that could easily be upgraded. 

As a final correction, this isnt a bitch about HAL teams, it is the stupid fascination many people have with playing in big empty stadiums  because apparently the lights are TV ready. Would suggest small stadiums like Lakeside would provide better viewing and atmosphere for TV for majority of teams like Melb City who struggle to get 10K to non-derby matches..














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pippinu - 30 Jun 2017 10:31 AM
Reading those tweets provides great insight on not only a prospective licensee's views of P&R, but most probably on the current ten licensees.

They have collectively lost over $200 million over the past 12 years.

Do not expect them to do anything which impinges on them making up even a tiny bit of that shortfall.

That means, without doubt, do not expect them to willingly share revenues with tinpot clubs.

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@ AJF

You made it about the HAL not me?

I was talking about the need to upgrade small stadiums so teams could play there, you brought up the HAL?

And yes, Suncorp is fully utilised in summer by one A League team, the Global Tens and the expansion as a concert venue. Even Roar can't get a full fixture list in there and regularly move home games away.

And expansion will extend the A league season increasing the period football overlaps with Union and league
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Waz - 30 Jun 2017 12:19 PM
@ AJF

You made it about the HAL not me?

I was talking about the need to upgrade small stadiums so teams could play there, you brought up the HAL?

And yes, Suncorp is fully utilised in summer by one A League team, the Global Tens and the expansion as a concert venue. Even Roar can't get a full fixture list in there and regularly move home games away.

And expansion will extend the A league season increasing the period football overlaps with Union and league

Sorry, I didn't make it about HAL, I just pointed out no HAL teams have their own stadiums so this cant be used as an excuse to try limit entry of other teams. 

Expansion doesn't mean more rounds, it means less repetition as teams wont play each other 3 times so this wont have any impact on season length.














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@ AJF

No one had said they had to own their own grounds so introducing the HAL clubs kinda deflected the discussion unnecessarily. They just havd to be up to a certain (minimum) standard.

And expansion does increase the number of rounds - we're never playing much less than 27 rounds as it's already too short (the AFC also have guidelines on this plus fewer games round reduce the TV contract value)

12 teams = 33 rounds
14 teams = 26
16 teams = 30
18 teams = 34

I hope we can get to 16 teams with p/r
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Waz - 30 Jun 2017 2:32 PM
@ AJF No one had said they had to own their own grounds so introducing the HAL clubs kinda deflected the discussion unnecessarily. They just havd to be up to a certain (minimum) standard. And expansion does increase the number of rounds - we're never playing much less than 27 rounds as it's already too short (the AFC also have guidelines on this plus fewer games round reduce the TV contract value) 12 teams = 33 rounds14 teams = 26 16 teams = 30 18 teams = 34 I hope we can get to 16 teams with p/r

Thats wrong 14 teams is enough 
4.01Minimum number of matches perteam in national top division(including league, cuptournament, and grand final ifapplicable)Minimum 27 Includes cupmatches
4.02Duration of national top division(including league, cup tournamentand grand final if applicable)Minimum 8 monthsMA should identifywhich competition isthe national topdivision league andnational cupcompetition
http://www.the-afc.com/uploads/afc/files/entry_manual_entry_manual_for_afc_club_competitions_2017-2020_09112016.pdf

It even says "grand final" special for Straya. 
Every team would play 26 plus finals which are our cup. FFA Cup is not included. Our 3 (or even 4) teams would all play 26 +1 finals at least. 
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